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RIDINROBB:
Yeah you should be fine. And a decently made trainer will be plenty stable. If you go with Saris or Kurt they have a lifetime, pretty much unconditional warranty on the frame.

GIANT_STEPS:
Krietler makes a fork-stand attachment for their rollers. A set of rollers, an attachment and one of their headwind fans and you're all set!

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I used a trainer when I was around 300lbs with no problem. Mine is an older Blackburn model that is quite heavy and has a wide base.

I have to admit that I miss the old fashion trainers where you clamp the front fork in. They were less convenient to use but their stability was confidence inspiring. I used to sprint like a mad man on those but on the newer trainers I'd be too afraid of toppling to sprint with reckless abandon.

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Has anyone that is fairly big 350-400 lbs used a trainer? Will it work? Would it be stable?

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Cool!!!! you got one.
DVDs are a great distraction but not required. I like them so I can watch others suffer with me. I have one called Suffer Fest that is 2 hours long. If you have a heart rate monitor that is going to help because the trainer is a bit deceiving and your perceived exertion always seems higher than it is.

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Congrats on the new purchase. Wishing you many happy miles of going absolutely nowhere...

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Bob:
Congrats on the new trainer! Personally I think you went about the purchase the right way - read up about it, ask, and then try. The best trainer is the one that will make you get on it regularly. Sounds like you got yourself a good LBS too.

If you're looking for DVDs, the Spinervals ones that the other Bob (HEYPUTTHATDOWN) suggests are a great start.

In God we trust, all others bring data.
- W. Edwards Demings

If God invented marathons to keep people from doing anything more stupid, the triathlon must have taken Him completely by surprise.
-P.Z. Pearce

Specificity, specificity, specificity.
-Andy Coggan

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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Brtains

The reason why so many people are hooked on Saris is that they have a life time warranty. Any time a part malfunction they will repair it for free no matter how old the machinery is. As was witnessed in an earlier post sometimes it is cheaper to send out a new untit then it is to replace the part.

Budgets come into a big play on choices and there are a lot of opinions out there as to who's is better;-) LOL

The important thing is is you got something to help you improve in the off-season.

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WONGERCHI and all the others ... Update. I never thought this thread would get so many fantastic responses and I really appreciate the education brought forth from all of you. I imagine a lot of others learned from this also.
I went to my LBS and had a long talk with the owner, tried a few trainers and settled for the one that is in my budget this year.he was very helpful and I loved the fact that he had me try each of them before I purchased anything..
I ended up purchasing the Blackburn Mag 3. is it the best out there? of course not but for now it works for me fine..
He had one of those spin dvds that he wanted to get rid of for $5.00, I bought that and used it tonight. I am not sure that this particular dvd is the one for me as it was concentrating more on time trials and I am looking for an intense workout that burns serious calories, I'll keep looking for that dvd.
Again thanks and I enjoy reading all the info that you all put on here.
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VELOSPRINTER:
I'm so glad someone else managed to bust their Fluid2 as well! I managed to bend the little piece of metal that holds the resistance unit to the front of the trainer (the bit that the little L-shaped pice goes into). This let to the resistance unit backing off everytime I tried to tighten it.

Took it back to the LBS. One quick call to Saris later and I walked out with a brand new unit. No mess, no fuss.

I don't know if this is actually Spark appropriate but seeing as I don't use vids but my own dastardly sometimes-vomit-inducing workouts, I now have 2 DVDs, free to a good home. They are (I think):

www.saris.com/p-332-realrides-race-d
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And

www.amazon.com/Carmichael-Training-S
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They came free with my trainers and I've used them both once. Not likely to use them again though. PM me if interested.


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If this is not Spark appropriate, I apologise profusely and could someone let me know please?

Edited by: WONGERCHI at: 10/21/2009 (16:18)
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If God invented marathons to keep people from doing anything more stupid, the triathlon must have taken Him completely by surprise.
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Specificity, specificity, specificity.
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The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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Great thread! Thanks for all the info everybody.

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It might be a $$$ stretch but the CycleOps fluid is very good. I have had mine for around 6 years and it works perfectly. Nice almost real feel to the resistance, no problem getting up and sprinting or climbing. I will say that I got a leak from one of the seals after about 3 years of hard work and sent it in. They have a life time warranty! Did they fix the seal? Nope, they next day delivered a new one. I was amazed!

You must get videos. I like both Spinervals and CTS for a mix of people.

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WONGERCHI, Yes, my sister had the wireless headphones. Setting up a tripwire for the DW probably is not the best idea...

I have 1/2 sheet of plywood, wrapped in a flannel sheet under my trainer. The original goal was to protect the carpet. I am not over a bedroom, but my trainer is in my loft, which opens over my living room and the bike is positioned over my dining room. My treadmill is there, too, and while that will wake someone up, you can't really hear much from the trainer. Maybe I'm not working out hard enough. Distinct possibility...

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Hang flourescent yellow or orange tape from the head phone wire to warn the wife you're plugged in;-)

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I haven't tried and exercise or yoga mat... that's a good idea. I just had a towel down to catch all the hard work as it flowed out.

Thanks!
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Mike:
Have you tried putting your trainer on an exercise mat? One of those thin ones that you see at the gym under a treadmill or some such. They're great for dampening the noise, although if it's your house then that may not solve the problem. Other than that, can't help you as my "pain cave" is in the basement.

DRC:
This headphones thing to the TV - can you get wireless headphones? Reason why I asked is that I tried it with wired headphones and I managed to make a rather good tripwire positioned around chest height. The wife was not too pleased when she walked into it...

In God we trust, all others bring data.
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If God invented marathons to keep people from doing anything more stupid, the triathlon must have taken Him completely by surprise.
-P.Z. Pearce

Specificity, specificity, specificity.
-Andy Coggan

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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One caveat about having someone under you when riding a trainer.... I put mine in my home office last winter, which happens to be right above my wife's music studio (she's a violin teacher). The first time I started riding when she was in her studio, she thought a plane was passing low over the house. So while it didn't sound all that loud in my office, apparently my floor/her ceiling acted like a giant loudspeaker and piped the sound right down in. If you have someone's bedroom right below you - that might be a problem, depending on how your apartment complex is constructed (wood frame vs. concrete).

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6/26/10 - Seattle Rock N Roll Marathon (for Team LiveSTRONG)
9/26/10 - Echelon Gran Fondo

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Yep, great thread...

CARLA, anything mag or fluid should be quiet enough in an apartment. Try both at the LBS, and listen for it. I think you'll be surprised. The fan shouldn't disturb the neighbors wither. Just make sure you don't blast a tv--either use your mp3 player, or get headphones for your tv for your rides.

Jim, Yeah, I have a hard time going to a spin class where I need my bike *and* trainer. But I do like the ones I need to bring my bike. Actually, I am not a big "class" person in general, so I am more inclined to stay home. That why I got my trainer in the first place....

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Great information, thanks a bunch!! I must admit I'm old and don't know what a mashup is...but I do have two early 20's kids, maybe I should ask them, ha!

I started with an ipod shuffle and now have a walkman mp3 player. They truly do keep me entertained while on the stationary bike, elliptical, and on the rowing machine. Otherwise I wouldn't last long at all.

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Woah, what a time to get unsubbed to the trainer thread. This is a good one.

Bob:
Great post. I tried the bike thong but didn't like it, if you don't go that route make sure you have a stash of towels handy, even with a fan.

Totally with you on the iPod thing, it's the one thing that keeps me sane on the trainer. I do 2x 20s so much I actually have a dedicated playlist for those. And mashups are a part of it that I like but I'm still at the Linkin Park/Jay-Z stage - can you point me in the direction of any good ones? Probably best for another thread, but our recent threads have been veering OT these days so lets see...

I definitely believe trainer miles count. Outside of racing, they are probably the hardest miles I do on a regular basis. Which sucks for me because I'm consistently 2mph slower on the trainer than outside for a given power output. Especially on my new Fluid2.

In the summer I don't bother changing tires. The bike goes indoors one day, outside the next, too much hassle. The first snow is generally when I change the rear to a trainer tire bring the roadbike in permanently.

Jim:
No, not tried the magneto. The Fluid2 kicks my a$$ enough as it is, I'm not in the market for another trainer, thanks. Let me know though, eh? Always good to have someones opinion.

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If God invented marathons to keep people from doing anything more stupid, the triathlon must have taken Him completely by surprise.
-P.Z. Pearce

Specificity, specificity, specificity.
-Andy Coggan

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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I thought I would show the DW why you would need a special orange trainer tire for the bike when you use the trainer. Also, I could show her that I was not wasteful. I also thought it would give me an exercise of changing a flat to keep those skills sharpened.

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I have a CycleOps Fluid2 trainer. The Fluid2 is quiet and I've had no problems with it. I still ride outside during the winter on the weekends and for weekly night club rides using the Utopia (:needCrossbike) but my road bike pretty much stays on the trainer once DST ends. When I get home from work, I'm on the trainer in 15 minutes before I can think of any excuses.

Last year I started using the Spinervals DVDs so that I would focus, push myself harder, and drive up my HR. I recommend the Endurance Builder 5-Pack:
www.spinervals.com/products/item75.c
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If you're not ready to spend that much money, I would try 5.0-Mental Toughness (90 min; good luck). I also use Chi's sports TV technique. 39/15/90rpm during action; 50/15/90rpm during timeouts.

As Chi pointed out, a fan is critical although there is some satisfaction in seeing how big of a sweat pond you can produce. Even with the fan you will need to put your bike and trainer on a mat or rug to protect the floor. You will also want to protect your bike. I use a "Bike Thong":
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BTA6O0

If you didn't click on the link, I'll let you pause and get the image of a bike thong out of your minds ... ok ... here we go.

You also need to stabilize your front wheel. Riser blocks are available or you can just make something out of wood. Note: having the front wheel high DOES NOT simulate climbing.

The last two winters, I have done about 100 miles a week on the trainer . It's ironic that mileage wonks say that trainer miles "don't dount" yet they are the most difficult miles I ride all year. Probably appropriate for another thread.

Last year I got my first iPod and I've found that having the right music makes all the difference. My son is a DJ (he has 5 Gb of MP3s!!!) and has introduced me to "mashups" (e.g. GirlTalk). The music is so age inappropriate but in the privacy of my home I don't need to be self-conscious. Workout music probably also deserves its own thread.

Trainers aren't for everyone which is why you can often get a good deal on a barely used one. I'm not shilling REI but they are having their yearly sale (20% off). Add the 10% annual rebate and that's 30% total so the Fluid2 which retails for $329 actually costs $230.

I don't bother swapping tires. Too much trouble and if we get a 50 degree weekend day I take the road bike outside. Both of the last two years I've just brought the bike in and put it on the trainer. In the spring, I replace both tires. I've had no problems.




Edited by: HEYPUTTHATDOWN at: 10/16/2009 (10:29)
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wongerchi

Have you tried the new Magneto by cyclops. They are claiming 4 different linear paths which is a more true feeling of being on the road. I know they have a magnetic trainer as well.

I think when the LBS guy and I were talking we were referring to the Magneto version of a trainer.

Your thoughts????

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Wow, lots of good info here! I was looking around for some information on trainers, and here it is, sweet!

So some of them are really loud huh? That's my only concern. I live in a 3rd floor apartment and I get up at 1am for work. I would really like to ride it then, because I'm kind of a morning person for exercise, but I don't want to wake the entire building doing it!!!

Unfortunately I can't get out and cycle at all yet, stationary only. 6 weeks out of knee surgery, they don't want me on the road. The doc did a microfracture procedure on my femur, so the recovery's a LOT longer then your typical arthroscopy. Boring is what it is!!!!

So any input you may have for us apartment dwellers would be greatly appreciated!!!

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Point taken on the feel and being in month 3 of inside riding.

I'll try both but I know the LBS is going to save a demo/floor model for me so i can get it really cheap and still be under the life time warranty.

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Jim:
OK, 300W for an hour ain't happening just yet...

Not that I needed another Fluid2 anyway. In fact, I got a new one on warranty replacement just last week. The 2009 model is much better than the 2007 model...

Don't forget I'm new to the sport too, this'll be my third winter. I just like to read about and do a lot of cycling... But my point would be, yeah I think you would. Especially in the gears you use a lot on the road. When I TT on the flat I'm generally in the 50x15-16 @90rpm. I know what that's like on the road. I also know what it feels like to go up and down a gear from that range. On the Fluid the sensations between road and trainer are nearly equivalent. On my rollers, they're not.

I'd say try them both. Then buy the one that you like better, regardless of price. You basically want a trainer to feel right and do the job. Both will do the job. Both have a lifetime warranty. But only one will feel better for you. That's important because trainer work, while very valuable, can suck the life out of you especially when it's mid-January and you've already been on the thing for 3 months...

In God we trust, all others bring data.
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If God invented marathons to keep people from doing anything more stupid, the triathlon must have taken Him completely by surprise.
-P.Z. Pearce

Specificity, specificity, specificity.
-Andy Coggan

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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What he was telling me if I could out spin the trainer for the entire work out on the trainer. We were referring to a 60 minute work out. I said to him if Iwere able to that then I would think I would be ready to ride in the next Tour de France;-) LOL

Also, you would be one of the few who would be able to tell the difference. But for most of us who are new to the sport probably would not be able to?

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Jim:
The thing I didn't like about the mag trainer was the linearity of the power curve and the model I tried at the LBS had weird resistance changes which messed me up.

On the road, the power/speed relationship isn't linear, it's cubic. So for a doubling of speed, you need 8x more effort (2x2x2 = 8). On the Fluid you get a decent approximation of this (see the Saris site for the curve). So when I'm in a particular gear I feel a similar effort level on the trainer as opposed to on the road. That's good for me, mentally. On my rollers, where the resistance curve is linear, I'm hitting threshold power in my biggest gear (50x12) spinning at 90rpm. I most definitely can't do that on a flat road!

You should take your LBS up on the offer of outspinning the mag trainer. According to the resistance chart on the Saris website, the lowest level on the Mag trainer has a max effort level of 300W. I can easily hold 300W for 5 minutes and given your size and speed I'm guessing you could too. The hardest level? Well, that's 700W max. 15s power for me. So if I turn up to your LBS and outspin the mag for 15s I'll get a new Fluid 2? Bonus. Where do I have to go? emoticon

In God we trust, all others bring data.
- W. Edwards Demings

If God invented marathons to keep people from doing anything more stupid, the triathlon must have taken Him completely by surprise.
-P.Z. Pearce

Specificity, specificity, specificity.
-Andy Coggan

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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I'm chiming in late myself.

DRC ... I'm with you on the spin classes and trainers ...... but if I had to bring my own trainer and bike I would rather stay home and put in a spinerval dvd.

Wongerchi:

I would like more info on cyclops mag trainer. I was talking with the LBS guy and he said that would be what would work for me best. The new ones out give you more of a feel for the road and not as noisy. He did state that the mag was linear and he told me that if i could outspin the mag he would give me a fluid 2 for free. He also indicated that a lot of people go to fluid but unless you are a pro cat i or 2 or riding in the Tours you will not really notice a difference in the 2 for a general all around work out.

Is he right?

Jim

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I know I am jumping in here late, but I thought I'd throw my opinion in here, too. WONGERCHI gave a great summary of trainers. And I am one of those who has the Minoura Rim trainer (mag resistance). I love it because there is no wear on the tire, and I don't have to worry about tire pressure before an indoor ride. And a nice smooth ride.

For those of you who can't hear the TV over the wind trainer and the fan, they make headsets that you can connect to your TV so you don't have to blast everyone else out of the house when you are working out. My sister used to use them on the treadmill.

Trainer vs. Spin Class: I prefer trainer bacause I have everything right there, can start whenever I want, and don't have to join a gym. Pop in a Spinervals, and I may as well have a Spin instructor in the room with me. And I can make the workout as easy or as difficult as I need it to be that day. But committing to a Spin class might motivate others better, because you have to show up. And someone watching you, so you don't slack off. I'm not good with the commitment part... But each is only as good as how often you do it, and how much effort you put into it.

BTW--some spin classes have the spin bikes set up in the room in advance, and others have you bring your bike (and sometimes your trainer) with you. There is an advantage to being on your own bike, instead of the generic class bike.

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BRTRAINS:
If you want to carry on cycling outdoors, I suggest you throw some knobby tires on your hybrid and go find a local cyclocross race.

I've heard good things about the New England cross scene and it's a great way to cut your teeth racing but more importantly, keep on riding outside and working on your bike handling skills.

Personally, I DEFINITELY think a trainer is better than spin class. The main reason is that a lot of the spin classes at gyms aren't run by cyclists, for cyclists. They're run by aerobics instructors who do things that you'd never see on the road. To me it's a better use of your time if you worked on things that you'd use on the road rather than things like high cadence standing, jumps, hovers etc.

Also when you cycle on the trainer, it's your bike, your position, your gearing. I've never gotten a spin bike to fit me as well as my own bikes.

That said, however, if you find a class that's geared towards cyclists, then go try it out. My triathlon club runs winter training sessions on spin bikes which I go to mainly for the social aspects but also to get a decent workout in with no thought involved on my part.

In God we trust, all others bring data.
- W. Edwards Demings

If God invented marathons to keep people from doing anything more stupid, the triathlon must have taken Him completely by surprise.
-P.Z. Pearce

Specificity, specificity, specificity.
-Andy Coggan

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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Hi, Thanks for your input as always ! I appreciate the knowledge. At least I know more now then i did 5 days ago, I just hate the thought of stopping the outdoor biking so soon.
One other question, do you think using a trainer is better then a spinning class?
I was spinning in the late Winter last year But they are changing alot of the spin times this coming season and most will be hard to get to.
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Some other comments I forgot to make last night....

BRTRAINS:
You'll also need to budget some $ for the biggest, baddest fan you can find. I'm dead serious about this - the more air you get moving around you the better. The problem then would be noise - even for me, the fan + trainer noise cancels out the TV...

The "trick" to staying on the trainer is really to keep your workouts short and hard. For a rec cyclist I'd go for some of those Spinerval or CTS DVDs they're good for getting the blood flowing. Or my favourite free-form workout - watch a show and go hard during the commercials.

STINKY:
For $1200 I assume you're talking about the Powerbeam trainer. It's good and all but if you're going to drop CycleOps that sort of coin, get a Fluid trainer and then get a PowerTap wheel. I don't see the point of having power indoors but not outdoors! Actually, that's exactly what I did...

GSDMIKE:
I know you're a runner but all the stuff applies to you guys that want to X-train on the bike in winter. It's not really as important for x-training as opposed to wanting to get better on the bike but a trainer, IMO is about 1 billion times better than any of those stationary gym bikes.

Firstly, you don't have to go anywhere. Second, you're on your own bike, and one that fits you. Third, you can actually ride properly using your gears for resistance on something with a road-like feel. And lastly, you don't have to go to spin class!

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BRTRAINS:
Trainers generally come in one of three forms - wind, mag and fluid. Wind is the cheapest (and loudest) and it goes up from there, fluid is generally the most expensive. A trainer basically clamps the back end of the frame in place but has a resistance unit on the back which your rear wheel spins against. The amount of resistance (and the shape of the resistance curve) depends on the trainer. Wind and Fluid are generally what you see on the road (so it gets much harder as the wheel spins), while mag curves are generally linear (so you don't get as much road "feel" as with the others. However, all trainers come with much more resistance than you'll ever need.

Generally the resistance comes from your tire rolling against the resistance unit, but I know Minoura makes a trainer where the resistance comes directly from the rim. This means that you don't have to use a different tire for your rear wheel.

If you have knobbies on your bike, switch them out to a cheap slick tire or get a trainer tire (Continental makes an orange one). The trainer tire is a pain to get on but it's very good - I've used mine for 2 years and there's TONS of wear left on it. You DO know how to change a tire, right?

For your budget, and the fact that noise isn't too much of an issue, you're looking at wind/mag trainers. I'm a CycleOps guy myself and the wind one is decent but somewhat loud for my tastes. Stay well clear from the CycleOps mag trainer, I didn't like it at all. I've heard good stuff about other mag trainers however. Anyway, try-before-you-buy is always sound advice.



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There was some good discussion / advice on this topic just recently in the Triathlon forum. Go check it out, and enjoy!

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My trainer is still in the basement, but living in Minnesota, I'm with you on seeing the season get shorter. I'd suggest you go to your local bike shop and talk with the folks there. I think I paid about 159 for mine. It is not noisy. My only complaint is that it's not out door biking, I hate winter!

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Don't want to hijack the thread, but when people respond, I'd love to know what people would recommend for recreational or cross-training cyclists as opposed to racers and people maybe a little more serious about their training.


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1,200.00?? I am interested in learning about trainers, as of yet no one has started to explain the trainers.
My budget is 150.00, tell me about trainers please thanks




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At $1,200, the CycleOps is the way to go. Fluid trainers are good, but CycleOps is the guy!

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let me know how you make out.. I know nothing about trainers..



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I'm trying out a fluid trainer from a work friend. He decided to buy a new CycleOps trainer and offered me a trial-to-buy; can't beat that.

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Hi All, living in new England it it getting harder and harder to get the bike out for the long rides I once so enjoyed throughout the summer months.
I really love biking but have come to realize that very very soon I will have to do most of it indoors.
My question is could you all please give me a quick education on bike trainers?
My budget will probably be around 150.00 Thats all i have for now.
Thanks for helping me decide which is best for me at this point.
I will be using this in my basement in my house, no apartment or close neighbors as I have heard some are rather loud. also i see where some say you can only have road tires or slick tires, my bike is a hybrid.



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