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6/30/19 1:27 A

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The article I posted was published this year June. And while there is definitely LAW, people still have an attitude that it's okay to not serve people based on their perception of that person's belief somehow impacting the business person's religious beliefs. I have no idea how me being Jewish might possibly impact a waiter's or baker's or doctor's beliefs. I mean, I'm Jewish and I don't think I've ever in my teaching career had a single Jewish student. So does that mean I shouldn't have been teaching students who were Muslim, Christian, or Hindu? Should they have protested having me as their teacher?

I just don't understand people sometimes.

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6/28/19 9:45 A

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oh and wasnt the colorado baker decision based on a technicality and not on reason of the case?

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dont get sidetracked by the DC event - i think its happened twice - once hte guy didnt want to serve them (tho i got the impression if i remember correctly, that if they'd refused to leave he would have but correct me if memory is off). the other time so many people were protesting them being there they were asked to leave for their and other customers safety, not cause they didnt want to serve them. one of those restaurants has had business pick up like crazy lol

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6/28/19 8:57 A

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The Supreme Court's decision in favor of the Colorado baker was only last year. Another, more recent case centering on a bakery in Oregon further complicates the issue. Here's one of many links:

www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-cou
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Smoke, mirrors, subterfuge, wrongheadedness and insanity.

As to the restaurant, I believe a Republican and family were asked to leave the restaurant in D.C.

As an aside, I took another caricature class on Monday. It's given every few months by a man who was until a year and a half ago art director of MAD Magazine and for 19 years after having been a freelance artist for the magazine for 18 years. As we eschew mean-spirited caricatures, someone in the class asked how political cartoons differ. The teacher drew this quick example, which I brought home with his blessing. It's on 33x27 paper and will remain on the kitchen wall for a very short time.





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6/28/19 6:09 A

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You are not mistaken-supreme court did settle this. Coming up again by the basket of deplorables who believe they are better than everyone else. What awful times we live in.

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6/28/19 5:43 A

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It is alarming to me as well the number of people who would refuse to serve somoene based on who they were. I remember reading something about how a waitress refused to serve someone who was extremely obese a second helping of food and she was terminated from her job.

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I may be mistaken, but I do believe this issue was settled by the Supreme Court. I seem to remember there was a case of a bakery that refuse to make a wedding cake for a gay couple. Also, there was a restaurant where the owner refused to serve a Republican who was very much in the news at the time. This particular article, cited here, is seven years old. But what is alarming is the ethnicity bias. That part is new to me. I will have to look for sources later and come back to this.

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6/28/19 2:01 A

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I accidentally stumbled on this article from "The Times of Israel" online - that something crazy like 19% of Americans think it would be okay for businesses to refuse to serve Jews if the business owner feels it violates their religious beliefs.

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Do they mean that Muslim business owners can refuse to serve Jews because they don't agree with their religious beliefs? Or do they mean that Christian business owners can refuse Jews because they don't agree with their religious beliefs?

Can a Jewish business owner refuse to do business with any Christian or non-Jew??

And does this mean that atheist or agnostic business owners can refuse to serve any person of faith because that violates their religious beliefs??

I am SO confused by anyone thinking this way. The ramifications could go on and on!!!!

Who gets to decide this???? And I thought we had Supreme Court decisions on this kind of stupidity!!!

Edited by: PHEBESS at: 6/28/2019 (02:04)
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