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10/15/18 5:00 A

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Al Gore invented climate change, after he invented the internet.

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10/15/18 12:48 A

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Plus we currently have a president who is lifting all restrictions and controls on industrial pollution, while also trying to sell mining and oil drilling rights to national parks and other restricted lands.

Because climate change is a hoax, you know. Started by China.

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10/14/18 6:59 A

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The industrialized west industrialized first, on the cheap. They used up the planet's capability to withstand industrial air pollution without climatic effects. The developing world now wants to industrialize, equally cheaply.

Scrubbing air emissions is way expensive, so if the developed world pays to pollute less, they seek for the developing world to incur equal air pollution control expenses. The developing world responds with "that's not fair to us", whereupon the present impasse has arisen while pollution goes on largely unabated.

We see the consequences with increasing frequency.

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10/13/18 7:38 P

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Have you read the recent UN statement on climate change? They are calling it climate genocide - entire populations will be decimated due to raging fires, droughts, inability to grow foods - it goes on and on. The difference of even just half a degree cooler would save entire temperature zones.

Truly frightening.


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10/13/18 8:21 A

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His argument was that if you examine the data over a much larger spectrum, the patterns follow. Not saying I agree with him, just expanding on his argument.

And, oddly, Gore was caught "enhancing" the collapsing ice shelfs to make his point look more dramatic. That was unfortunate.

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People did not want to believe the plain facts in front of them. Many still do not. Ostriches all.

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No less than Michael Crichton thought global warming was a hoax.

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I so love the Washington Post. My love for the paper not only gets me to pay for a digital subscription (I wield my net-is-free-for-me powers, elsewhere), because every now and then, someone authors a column that makes my heart sing.

This morning we have "... No amount of fact-checker Pinocchios will stop his followers from accepting Trump’s word that Robert S. Mueller III is on a witch hunt, global warming is a hoax, North Korea no longer is a nuclear threat and Democrats are a dangerous mob. But they can feel the economy personally. When the downturn comes, huge deficits, which Trump widened, will leave the federal government with little power to cushion the fall. If this happens on his watch, even Trump’s ardent supporters would see it’s not fake news — and that would be the end of him...."

Oh, let it be so. Here is the Dana Milbank column:



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And here is the whole thing in the clear, for the digitally challenged or whatever :

After the Dow Jones industrials plunged 832 points on Wednesday, Larry Kudlow, President Trump’s chief economic adviser, walked up the White House driveway and proclaimed that there was no cause for concern. Not about the stock market, or turmoil in China’s economy, or American casualties of Trump’s trade fights, or the president’s attempt to bully the Federal Reserve into an easy-money stance.

“Our economy and the people and the workers and entrepreneurs, they’re killing it. We’re the hottest in the world,” Kudlow proclaimed in front of the CNBC camera. “We’re crushing it right now, and I think that’s going to continue regardless of China.”

Kudlow, standing outside the West Wing, offered versions of this happy talk — “I don’t think this is anything resembling a sugar high . . . America is on a tear” — to any other reporter who would listen.

But the Pollyanna performance didn’t play well on Wall Street. The Dow lost another 546 points Thursday. The index had a partial recovery Friday but finished the week down 4.2 percent, the third straight weekly decline.

Maybe that’s because investors had heard Kudlow say such words once before.

Ten months before the crash of 2008: “There’s no recession coming.”

Seven months before the crash: “The economy will be rebounding sometime this summer, if not sooner.”

Six weeks before the crash: “An awful lot of very good new news.”

Markets rise and markets fall, and this week’s volatility doesn’t necessarily mean the economy will tank. But it does show the limits of Trump’s hucksterism.

Though Trump called the stock market a “bubble” during the campaign, he has boasted scores of times about new records it has set during his presidency. On Saturday, he told a crowd: “Your 401(k)s, you all look like a bunch of geniuses — thank you, Donald, very much.” So far, that has worked, because economic growth has continued under Trump, and indeed accelerated after the massive stimulus of a tax cut and spending increase. Republicans would otherwise be facing bigger losses in next month’s midterms.

But now come scattered signs of trouble. The Fed has been raising interest rates — in part because Trump’s massive stimulus during an expansion threatens to set off inflation. China’s economy has been unstable, in part because of Trump’s trade dispute. And though the trade deficit with China hit a record in September, Trump’s tariffs have hurt many U.S. producers; Ford, claiming the tariffs cost it $1 billion, is planning workforce cuts.

No amount of fact-checker Pinocchios will stop his followers from accepting Trump’s word that Robert S. Mueller III is on a witch hunt, global warming is a hoax, North Korea no longer is a nuclear threat and Democrats are a dangerous mob. But they can feel the economy personally. When the downturn comes, huge deficits, which Trump widened, will leave the federal government with little power to cushion the fall. If this happens on his watch, even Trump’s ardent supporters would see it’s not fake news — and that would be the end of him.

Trump needs reassurance — and Kudlow, the former TV business pundit, now plays the carnival barker’s carnival barker.

With cameras in the room for a prescription-drug bill signing Wednesday, Trump introduced “the great Larry Kudlow, whose voice is so beautiful. . . . The economy, Larry, how is it doing?”

“Couldn’t be better,” replied Kudlow.

And Kudlow’s message couldn’t be otherwise:

Oct. 7: “Right now, the American economy is crushing it.”

Sept. 28: “We’re crushing it, we’re absolutely crushing it.”

Sept. 17: “We’re crushing it.”

Sept. 6: “We’re crushing it.”

Aug. 28: “America today is just crushing it everywhere.”

Aug. 17: “We are crushing it. And people say this is not sustainable, it’s a one-quarter blip? It’s just nonsense.”

In Thursday’s interview, Jim Cramer, Kudlow’s former partner on CNBC, tried to temper Kudlow’s mania. Cramer cautioned about a slowdown in business in key economic sectors, a peak in real estate, slower lending, declining demand for luxury goods — “a pastiche that I’m concerned about.”

Kudlow brushed off the worries. “I’m just saying there’s so much good news out there that we shouldn’t just try to find a couple of numbers that don’t look great, okay?” he said. “This is a heck of a story. Let’s embrace it.”

Sound familiar? “The Bush boom is alive and well,” Kudlow said before the 2008 crash, calling the soon-to-collapse economy “still the greatest story.”

Until it wasn’t.

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