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Yeah, I'd rather have kittens, LOL!

Though sadly, one of the dolls was crying as per the program, and the child couldn't get it to stop crying all night. Apparently her father came in and yelled at her for not making the doll get quiet - so she threw the doll into the closet and shut the door. Some of this registered on the tracking in the doll, so the teacher had to talk about child abuse in class the following day or week. Made for a good lesson, but it was a sad incident considering the fact that the parents had to come to an orientation and sign an agreement before the dolls went home with the kids. I guess the father didn't realize it really would be like having a baby in the house again.

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I remember that the make-believe baby program was huge some time ago. Recently I saw an item that confirmed it continues, though perhaps to a smaller extent.

Puppies don't need to be changed. Good idea your student had.

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Our school had a program sponsored by the Rotary, called "baby think it over." Certain classes learned participated, and students "adopted" a life-size doll for two days - brought it home, took care of it, etc. Doll was programmed to need feeding and diaper changing at specific intervals, and it would just cry periodically for no reason. Point was to show the students how much work babies can be, and hopefully prevent teen pregnancy.

Of course, the kids were all excited and brought in baby clothes for their doll - either from a baby sibling our cousin, or a few went and bought new stuff. Some also had baby carriers; others used cardboard boxes.

My favorite was the child who told me after her turn with the doll that she no longer planned on having babies, they were too much work - she just wanted to have puppies.



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That's a great idea. When the puppet was still in the works, I was in Michael's and noticed a section of tiny clothes. The prices were ridiculous -- higher than things in inexpensive clothing stores. A thrift shop would be ideal.

It's not relevant now, but I recall that Cabbage Patch dolls wore 12-month size in real baby clothes.

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You can always go to a thrift store and buy baby clothes for the puppets - some of them are pretty amazing!

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When I was sewing the puppet costume, I had to use a needle threader. Boo-hoo, it took four tries before I got it! From now on, puppets will sew their own costumes.

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Tongue roll, no problem.

To thread a needle, I hold the thread in my left hand, needle in right. Cannot for the life of me make it work any other way. Although I've learned to use a needle threader thing - took a while to get the hang of that thing. But I still need to hold the thread in my left hand.

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The hotdog vs. the rolled tongue was clearly demonstrated in our household one night at dinner. One in four cannot roll the tongue. So we, as a family, tested the hypothesis. My father stuck his tongue out. Register one roll. My sister stuck her tongue out. Roll Number Two. I stuck mine out, and contributed Roll Number Three. We all turned to my mother and waited expectantly. Hot dog!

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The eye of the needle certainly has gotten smaller with the years. I hadn't had to use a needle in years, but a few weeks ago needed one to sew my puppets outfit. Thread in dominant hand, it took about 30 tries. I finally got it not because of hand-eye coordination, but because of the odds. It had to happen some time.

It wouldn't have occurred to me that handedness has anything to do with neurology. I chalk it up to the whorl of the hair and all that stuff.

When did we start learning about genetics? Was it high-school biology or earlier in general science? I remember the kids in class getting goofy, demonstrating and comparing all the obvious examples. One is the ability to curl one's tongue. I couldn't do it and somehow tried through the years. Lo! A couple of years ago I curled my tongue and have been able to do it ever since. It can't be that I acquired the dubious skill, but that I always had the gene but was too uncoordinated to exercise it. Or so it seems to me. (I never pressed buttons or pencil erasers into my chin or cheeks to try to develop a cleft of dimples.)



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Funny you should mention that. I never thought threading a needle had to deal with handedness. Nowadays it's difficult but that's relating to age and eyesight. The thread goes in the dominant hand.

My younger niece, the nerdy one, explained to me about her archery pose in a photo on her Facebook page. I realized when I saw the photo of her shooting with a bow and arrow she was doing it left-handed and I know her to be right-handed. She said she was instructed to figure out which way her hand would be dominant (I forget now actually how) and she realized that she would be more comfortable shooting the bow left-handedly.

When I was a kid, my closest friend was left-handed, except when she played baseball which she played as a right-hander. So apparently we are not completely dominant one way, and that there are exceptions to every rule. It must make neurologists very gleeful.

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On the TV show "The Simpsons" (adult animation), the character Ned Flanders has a store of items for left-handed people.

I thread needles left-handed, having learned from my mother. Try explaining that to your Home Ec teacher. I literally cannot thread a needle if my right hand is holding the thread - I just can't get it into the eye of the needle.


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There is a family photo of my younger niece and nephew when they were really small watching a scribe at work. If I remember correctly, there is an issue because not many people are going into the trade. And that presents a very serious problem with the repair of Torahs.

When I was very young I wanted to learn to knit. My mother being European was very frustrated because she had to teach me backwards because I'm left-handed. And it was difficult for her to show me how to do it correctly as a left-handed person. We present all kinds of problems we lefties. Except for the old-fashioned toll booths. That we succeeded at, tossing the coins into the receptacle with ease, while right-handed people failed and had to chase rolling coins under cars. I am sure that they are grateful for the E-Z Pass system.

Somewhere in the Village or the Lower East Side, there is a left-handed store, I believe. I have never seen it though.

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Yes, a sofer is a scribe. We had a Torah scroll or two repaired in St Thomas, and a professional sofer came to do the calligraphy. Fascinating to watch.

I still do some things left-handed, because my mother was a leftie and taught me how to do them. Very odd things, like tie a bow, or even thread a needle.

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Never said you weren't sharp. Yes, that was what I meant.

Phebess clarified for me (I missed it) because the Hebrew flows right to left, a left-handed scribe would find the task easier.

I eat European (not people, the way they eat). It is the only thing I do as right-handed Europeans do.

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I had to look that up. You do mean "scribes," yes?

And before I miss the pointL Nu, you mean "Jill" as in "Jill of all trades?"

We've been on the left-handed topic in the past for whatever reason. I do certain things right-handed -- fork in left hand, knife in right, never switching.; right-handed knitting, etc., etc.

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Just call me "Jill", Phebess.

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You and Nu would be perfect soferot!!!

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I do work from right to left for the most part. So far, no dragging hand or sleeve problems. If I ever take up lettering, I may some day make scrolls for mezuzahs.

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My mom was a leftie, so there are certain things I do like a left-handed person.

Laurie, always start in the upper right hand corner of your paper or canvas, working to the left and downward. That way you won't put your hand through wet media, or smudge anything.


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Yes, that one went right by me.

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= Sigh =

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I didn't even know that Liquitex makes watercolors. Winsor & Newton have the stellar reputation. I have several among my hand-me-down supplies. It's interesting, though, that, while the instructor at Salmagundi Club told me to buy professional quality, she also thinks that others may give a granulated effect that can be so, well, effective.

Yes, Nu, that was addressed to you. I thought you were being cute, knowing how left-handers are the butt of so many [tired] old jokes. Now you remind me that the above-named instructor, on my first day in class, noticed my left-handedness and said something about it perhaps being a good thing. I didn't know what prompted her and didn't ask.

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If that was to me, you misunderstood: lefthanded people (a class I belong to as well) are known to be a talented group. That's what I meant.

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Yeah, we all find favorites. Don't try Liquitex paints - ugh, horrible! Windsor Newton is much nicer - smooth and creamy, but the watercolors and the acrylics.

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Huh?

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Of course you're lefthanded. Makes sense now.

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If you google "Ebony pencils" you'll understand the problem. It seems they've cheapened the product.

Shame.

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Yes, I am left-handed.

I've acquired a couple of ebony pencils, but haven't used them yet. I "treated" myself to a set of four Faber Castell pencils, having discovered the the 10-for-$5 Michael's product is ridiculously low quality. When the graphite (if that's what it is) point breaks, it's often from below the end of its casing. I can look down the casing. I'm slowly getting better-quality supplies and see a difference.

I've already discovered that I don't like the texture of a particular watercolor paper (Strathmore 300 Series), but it has an advantage. Because I don't like it, I'm freed to work more freely on it. I have two teachers who tell me to relax and work the watercolors quickly.

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But why oh why did they change the formula for those exceptional pencils? I never produced work like I did with those pencils. It was like being possessed.

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Agreed, ebony pencils, or a soft lead pencil. Charcoal is fun but messy.

Laurie, are you left-handed? Something you said made it sound as if you might be? (The direction you were painting.) Teachers will always tell students to start on the left and work toward the right. But of course, this needs to be reversed for lefties.

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Ebony used to be the best for art, until they changed the formula abd it's not the same. Always was amazed at what I could create with a good Ebony. Like someone else was drawing not me.

Great stuff. Alas.

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Who uses wooden pencils anymore?

Sharpwriter mechanical disposable.

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Smile when you say that.

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ahh hahah you are Sweet!!

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You have to watch those turtles. They crawl away and hide so easily.

Julia, stop reading Julia Cameron. She's only getting in the way of the doing. Pick up a #2 Ticonderoga pencil and a piece of copy paper and scribble your heart out. For starters.

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Funny! I had ceramics in various high points in my background, starting with a summer class in ceramics at the "LeMoyne Art Institute" or some such, in Tallahassee Florida when I finished the 5th grade (1971-72). We got about 2 or 3 classes into it and found out we had to move, and long story short, we moved to Kansas so I never got to finish the rest of the summer classes.

Junior High and High School was a barren wasteland so far as art was concerned. Losers.

So in college I took at least one ceramics - freestyle - never hit on the pottery wheel, it was all coil and slabs and wedging my clay and such as that. Really liked that. And I remember having to mix up a batch of cobalt powder and water to make some glaze for one piece (but I don't have it any more, not sure what happened to it? Prolly blew up in the kiln.....urk...).

I'm sooo repressed art wise... I can't even bear to finish reading "The Artist's Way" by Julia Cameron, as I don't get out and try to do more art... I need to stop that!!

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Eighth grade it was a turtle. It's around here somewhere.

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You had to have had fun with the array of classes. It sounds delicious.

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Clay is a wonderful medium, isn't it? I've always loved it. In 6th grade, we made clay objects - mine was a Siamese cat with a little kitten sitting on her front paws. Took forever, but I got to stay in at recess to finish up. (I was always the last kid to finish an art project.)

When I went back for my teacher certification, we had to pick a major (art) and a minor (English) because in WA state, there are so many small districts and schools that everyone has to be prepared to teach more than one subject. In art, we had to take something like three or four classes in art history; a series of classes in curriculum development and course design specifically in art ed; plus studio classes in drawing, painting, color theory, the foundations of art composition, watercolor, acrylic or oil painting, a basic course in ceramics, sculpture (I learned how to arc weld), and fiber arts. (Yes, one class in each of those areas.) Then select one area of concentration and take three or four classes in that - so I chose ceramics.

You can imagine how much fun I had!!!!

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Your creation counts absolutely and it's wonderful that you still have it. How about a photo?

It's a shame about your father's piece. Not the same, but you just brought to mind again my father's work when he stayed in to play with me when my mother's punishment was that I not go out to play. It's the subject of my puppet show last month. He didn't make anything as ambitious or lofty as your father did, but I was enchanted by tiny people on swings.

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When I was four and in kindergarten, we did "ceramics", too. I think we used a milk carton as our mold, and then stuck toothpicks in it. My father cherished it. We still have it. Over 60 years later it has withstood the test of time. Does that count?

Alas, his miniature bust, that he was so proud of, made with children's modeling clay, of a Vietnam woman, taken from a NY Times Magazine cover, did not make it. It was exceptionally well done.

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I knew that you have quite a bit of ceramics under your belt, but not that it was part of your formal education. Except for being selected for a special, short-term ceramics class in third grade (alas, the piece I made is long gone), I have no experience.

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I've always found blue to be such a restful color. And perfect for hot climates, because it always feels like such a cool color.

The blue glaze used in many Asian ceramic pieces, such as your two ginger jars, is basically cobalt powder mixed with water, painted on over the pre-fired white porcelain item. (At this stage, it's known as bisque ware.) Then a coating of clear glaze (silica suspended in water) is painted on - and then the piece goes into the kiln for the glaze firing.

Ceramics was my area of concentration when I was back in college for my teaching certification.

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Thanks, Julia. I'm fond of cobalt, too. I think it goes back to childhood, when our Pesach dishes were cobalt glass. It wasn't until my adult years that I made the connection for my fondness. My everyday, all-purpose wine glasses have cobalt stems and I have tumblers of cobalt glass, too. Love them.

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Oh Laurie -

I love it!! But then I'm partial to cobalt blue and white glazed pieces and blue glass bottles! You are doing very well with this!

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"Awry" has long been one of my favorite words.

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That is exactly the point. Anything that is awry will jump out at you.

Knowing is not enough. We must apply. Willing is not enough. We must do.
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Thanks, Nu, on both counts.

I'll adopt the upside down view. It can be too easy to see what I want to see no matter how I may try to be honest and clear. With the reverse view,, it would be hard to miss something that's off.

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The work is very impressive.

What looks balanced when you look at it normally head on, when you turn it upside down you might notice that it's slightly askew. That was the way I was taught.

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Thank you, everyone.

Nu, I know that people turn their work-in-progress upside down, but not why. When I turn things sideways or upside down, it's to be able to work without dragging my hand (left-handed) across wet paint. I'll test what you've spelled out.

The paper is ivory. It is the lighting in my apartment that makes it look darker.

The teacher gives private lessons. I felt that I wanted to wait until I'd learned more than I'd begun with so that I could understand her in private and now feel ready to make an appointment. My wanting to stay with this is growing stronger.



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wow - museum worthy. One would never know this has not been a lifetime's professional pursuit A woman of many talents.

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Wow, Laurie, that piece is gorgeous and amazing and wow, you've really come far in a very short time!!!! The decorated vase on the right is incredible in its detail, and the one on the left definitely has an Asian look but really nicely portrays the shine of the glaze.

I can understand what the instructor meant about the bottle - there most likely would be a few lines of reflection, so more white and possibly more light blue. But the dark blue and bits of white certainly show a glass bottle!

Really a wonderful job!!!

In the photo, it looks like the paper is yellow - but I'm guessing that's more due to the lighting than the actual paper?

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Lovely.

One trick I learned in high school, that perhaps you are aware, is to turn the work upside down to ensure that all components of a still life, are straight and balanced.

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This is from the weekly, three-hour class I started to attend early last month. It's flawed, but I worked "better" than I had been. I finished it today -- wanted to be finished with it -- and like the two vases. The instructor told me that I should have left the bottle alone sooner than I did and I can see why. It's my intention to paint the same pieces in the future to see how I handle them.

The vase on the left doesn't have the detailed pattern of the model. I kept losing it perhaps because I wasn't paying enough attention. Despite that, I think I got some of the Asian flavor of the piece.

The shadows, added today, needed cleaning (help from teacher), as I'd gone over them and, duh, left a definite edge. Despite this, she again said that she wasn't sure I'd ever work this way.



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