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6/16/19 4:40 A

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As for Trump spending the rest of his life in jail, all one has to look at is the case of Bill Cosby who also thought he was above the law.

Time, hopefully, tells all.

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Be interesting to see exactly how that will play out. The new attorney general in NY, Leticia James, is building the case. I, for one, would love to see the outcome of that.

No bank, besides Deutsche Bank, will lend the Trump Organization funds. They are finally getting smart. What I really hate are the contractors he stiffed years ago (I guess few knew his reputation then) sending them into bankruptcy. That is such a crying shame.

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If we're lucky, he'll spend the rest of his life in jail.

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6/15/19 4:58 A

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Wouldn't that be nice?

Even Pelosi says she'd like to see Trump in prison.

It is just amazing just how much he's gotten away with for decades.

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I hope they both find out the hard way.

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The one common thread that Kellyanne shares with The Donald is they consider themselves above the law. She has absolutely no compunction as a lawyer to follow rules and regulations. She has no problem ignoring the Hatch Act, which she repeatedly ignores. It does not phase her in the least. And she has said as much, defiantly.

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Sometimes I feel like we women need to take over the government and just kick out all the war-mongering men in there. Well, and kick our KellyAnne Conway too.

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6/13/19 9:51 P

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I thought of that as well as I was typing it.

Right now I am scared to death what he's going to do now that things are escalating in the waters around Iran. I really, really, really do not want to wake up tomorrow and find out that we are now at war once again. Because the people in higher office are never the ones who do the actual fighting. That they leave to the young, 18-year-old kids to do, who don't know any better, and volunteer fresh out of high school.

History just keeps repeating over and over and over again .

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They definitely get what they deserve if they vote for people like that.

It's the rest of the people who didn't vote for that person who then get stuck with the jerk in office.

Like all of us right now.

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Remember the governor who said he was going to walk the Appalachian Trail and in reality went to visit his girlfriend in Argentina? People had absolutely no problem voting him back into office. Meanwhile government business was left suspended without anyone at the helm for about two weeks. Talk about responsibility.

His wife, unlike other women in similar positions, like Silda Spitzer, refused to "stand by her man". She left him twisting in the wind having to explain to a press conference exactly what he was doing for those two weeks. And because she had helped him tremendously to win the office in the first place as his campaign manager back in the day, he actually had the nerve to call her and ask her to critique how he did. Talk about clueless.

I was very happy to see that she remarried and she really looks very happy. By her own admission there were red flags at the point that she and her first husband were getting serious. One of the things he did not want to include in his wedding vows was "faithfulness". That should've told her something. And she was much more accomplished than he at the point that they got married.

When people choose to elect these scumbags into office, sometimes I have to think that they get what they deserve.

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Ugh, that guy sounds worse and worse!

How can he set up a website for illegal practices????? And how can anyone VOTE for someone like that??????

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6/12/19 3:42 A

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After you mentioned the Virginia creep, I did a search. He, according to sources, ran a year ago last June.

What was interesting was he was a convicted felon, who, along with other creeps, received a pardon from the governor. Why I have no idea. And that allowed him to run for public office in the first place.

Not only is he a self-proclaimed pedophile but he supports the practices of rape and incest as well. He created a special site exclusively for those "practices".

Just when I think I can't imagine anything worse, your example I think, won the day. It is astounding. And he has a daughter who he lost, obviously, because of his depraved practices and lives with other family members, especially after her mother committed suicide. But the mother apparently had already divorced him and she had a restraining order against him before she died.

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Draining it to find the swamp creatures and the Creature from the Orange Lagoon.

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This is their way of "draining the swamp."

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Gaaaahhhhh!!!!!!! People who think they are better than others drive me crazy!!!

And now, a self-confessed pedophile is running for office in Virginia. What is WRONG with people that they'd vote for him??????

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What I find incredulous was he was "shocked" at the verdict. As if poor homeless people don't count.

EDIT: Indicating his "surprise" at the verdicts that the jury did not have difficulty with (the remaining counts today ended in a mistrial);

sports.yahoo.com/kellen-winsl
ow-ii-tri
al-guilty-of-rape-221853205.html


What I love in these cases is when the defense tries to paint a picture of "consensual" sex.

I guess after so many high-profile cases, these rapists are getting smart, and have learned a way to beat a rape kit (being SP I'll leave the details of that out).

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OMG, what has he got against 58 year old women?????? What a sleaze to rape a homeless woman!!!!

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And another one bites the dust. The level of depravity knows no measure:

www.aol.com/article/news/2019
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llen-winslow-ii-trial-guilty-
of-ra
pe-indecent-exposure-lewd-conduct
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No question. And he got none.

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Supposedly he had had surgery or something, I think - but I could be wrong with that. Definitely a ploy for sympathy!

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And what's up with the wheelchair, all of a sudden? To garner sympathy from the judge (she was not buying, unlike the other judge who thought he lived a exemplary life prior. Say what?).

I have seen from all the people involved in Trump's administration is that "water seeks its own level". As Colbert said, Trump hired Cohen specifically because he was a sleaze and could be counted on to fix the unsavory bits of Trump's messy life. Why else?

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Yup - Manafort wants a pardon. And this woman is still waiting for her starring role.

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And yet she still defended him.

Like Manafort, careful not to say anything against Trump. It would appear on the surface that he is still hoping for a presidential pardon.

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On the surface, it looks like a consensual relationship. Until you read that he promised her roles if she slept with him. And then, apparently, she kept sleeping with him. At what point does it change from coercion to consensual? Especially if he never gives her a role????

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The woman caught in the middle, seems to still think that he is going to produce work for her because she refuses to say anything against him. And that he is "innocent". That, is simply amazing.

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All I can think is that some of these men, like this movie mogul, think they are so special that they are immune to any of these accusations and reports.

Either that or they are just really stupid.


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It is amazing to me that after all the much-publicized cases, this is still an ongoing issue:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/03/18/
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llywood-studio-chief-steps-sexual-miR>sconduct-allegations-involving/


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But of course!

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He would have been labelled hysterical, and totally ignored - just for starters.

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They cannot conceive that it's not about sex.

Years ago I did a paper in college about Freud. To wit, "How would his theories have changed if he were born a woman?"

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Yup. Men truly do not get it. Some do, but they seem to be few and far between.

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I had a sweet neighbor in NH, but her husband was another story completely. I forget the case that was ongoing at the time (no matter, they come up frequently enough, just the names change and the location in the US), and he thought he was being cute and said that the woman should just lie back and enjoy it. His wife was standing there and she started to really ream him out.

Look at how many did not understand the Kavanaugh case. People who go to Yale, don't commit such heinous crimes. And he on the flipside said that he went to Yale, therefore he does not deserve the treatment he was getting. Interesting juxtaposition.

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I remember hearing a discussion, close to 40 years ago, when someone said that men on a jury have a hard time convicting a rapist or sexual abuser because they each know how close they may have been to committing such acts themselves. That they might not have, but that they almost all had been close to doing so.

I suspect that is why so many men claim that the women who are speaking out are doing so for those minutes of fame. They really still do not understand how wrong, demeaning, and despicable such actions are.

They really do not get it. Some do. But obviously not enough of them.

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Phebe, it is stunning that after all the allegations (if I remember correctly, in Nassif's case there were close to 150 women who came forward), there are those who still do not get it. Who in their right mind would seek out their "fifteen minutes of fame" in such a manner? It just strains incredulity.

Eco, sadly, it was bound to hit close to home. These are not isolated incidents. And, sadly, people in positions of power use that position to groom unsuspecting innocents of both sexes. We saw it in the Sandusky case, and also what you posted here reminded me of what a friend told me years ago: Someone he was very close to, who served as a mentor, was a pillar in his community. So much so that he took in many boys as a foster parent. People were puzzled why the boys kept running away. Until it all came to light.....And then it was easily understood.

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Everett Superintendent Retires Amid Sexual Harrassment Allegations

www.nbcboston.com/news/local
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uperintendent-Retires-Amid-S
exual-
Harrassment-Allegations-503290471.html


This one has hit close to home for me. I was a department head working out of the Mayor's Office and I worked with the Superintendent many years ago. I got grant funding for several programs implemented in partnership with the schools. Most memorable were an Adult Literacy Program and an early childhood/teen parent program in the high school. He was a good guy to work with on these and other projects. According to the news reports, he denies wrongdoing. What are the charges? Guilty or innocent? However this ends, this makes me very sad.

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What a *&^%#@$ jerk!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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MSU interim president resigns after commenting some of the victims are "enjoying" the spotlight and the attention:

sports.yahoo.com/msu-interim-
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-john-engler-says-nassar-surv
ivors
-enjoying-spotlight-203706386.html


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I would suspect it depends on who the Democrats have as a candidate, for some people.

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And then I read this:

www.politico.com/story/2018/11/14/po
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-trump-2020-reelection-support-990015


I must admit, that I am now skeptical of polls and pollsters in general. Aren't they the same folks that predicted with "overwhelming accuracy" [emphasis mine] that Clinton would be elected in a landslide victory?

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There's a Facebook group called Resist, not sure if anyone here is part of it.

Anyway, someone there suggested that there's a rumor about Trump's most recent behavior, and the whole issue of his not attending the Armistice Day (or Veterans' Day) event in France. That he has dementia, is sundowning, is so out of it by afternoons that his staff is keeping him out of sight whenever possible.

Just through I'd throw that out there.

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I shudda knowed better. Sorry.

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Today I read a piece by an Erin Montgomery saying what a "great job" President Trump is doing. The economy is thriving, and more women are working. She does not need to hear from Vanity Fair, about "white women supporting Trump". (Now I can't find the article.)

Trump is right: He can shoot someone in broad daylight on Fifth Avenue, and no one would care.

Pretty sorry state of affairs if you ask me.

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EDIT: Found it. Not Vanity Fair, but Vogue. How is it possible that there are women with this opinion?

www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2
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8/11/14/women_are_winning_in_the_truR>mp_era_138639.html


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No, sorry, I didn't mean to suggest you are keeping it up just for the sake of keeping it up. I find it disheartening that there are new wrinkles, new cases, new headlines ... new reasons to move this back to the top of the list. It's not going to go away ... and it shouldn't.

And I wanted to stop in to say emoticon , I'm still here.

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It WAS inactive for a while, Eco. We are not keeping it up just for the sake of keeping it up. The Geoffrey Rush case is unique insofar as he considers himself the "wounded party" and is suing the Australian newspaper for defamation. The case has seriously impacted his livelihood.

What about all those women who were afraid to speak up, afraid it would ruin their careers?

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This thread doesn't stop! It keeps showing up at the top of the active list. What a world, what a world ...

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She sacrificed so much when she married Sanford. She was already making quite a name for herself on Wall Street as a serious player.

Ironically, Sanford threw it all away for his "soul mate". I understand they broke their engagement. Guess it was more exciting when it was a "forbidden love". Sometimes love is so blind, deaf, dumb and stupid. Thinking more of Jenny than Mark. And so many of her four sons look exactly like him! What a painful reminder. But they all seem very close to her. Maybe him, less so.

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I'm glad she found a better man!

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I think Mrs. Spitzer was just shell-shocked.

When Jenny Sanford remarried this past spring, she posted a photo of her wedding day on her Instagram account, and slyly included the hashtag "real men know how to love".

www.instagram.com/p/BhcuA4IDTOt/

Like pick-up-sticks that we played as kids, in the end, she got it all. And she is so incredibly humble.

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I know - I never understood that. I can't see staying with someone that sleazy!

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But it is so weird. Look at Silda Spitzer. Her husband, Elliot, then governor of NY, was going after prostitution rings, just not his (when it came out, he was known famously as Customer No. Nine). She was very accomplished in her own right, yet she stood by him, looking so stricken. Awful to see. They ultimately divorced, but still, in the moment she was there for him.

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Ugh. I'd definitely dump a guy who did anything like that - just not going to accept being treated like that.

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And the wife, in this case, "stands by her man", appearing in court, to be by his side, every day.

This is something else I cannot fathom.

Jenny Sanford, the then-wife of the disgraced governor of South Carolina, Mark Sanford, refused to stand next to him during his "explanation" speech. He's the guy who abandoned his office for a week "hiking the Appalachian Trail" while in reality he was in Argentina with his mistress. The wife, by the way, is happily remarried. This man actually called her after his speech to ask her to critique it. She used to always do that. I guess he did not see this time as any different.

The people actually reelected him. See a pattern here? The people really do get what they deserve.



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All I can think is that they've done it before and got away with it - so they think it isn't a problem. Well, and they think they're special and get to do things like this.

It really seems as if some men just never become adult.

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Interesting point.

And also about Murdoch.

It totally baffles me when someone is "surprised" they are hit with these claims. Even acknowledging the fact that he might have called the actress "yummy". In what universe is this permissible? And how is this an "ice breaker" on the set?

The mentality is beyond my comprehension.

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So he's only suing the paper - interesting. (Makes me wonder about Rupert Murdoch who is Australian - given some of what he publishes, you'd think he'd be cognizant of Australian publishing laws!)

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Geoffrey Rush, the actor, strikes back in defamation suit:

www.nytimes.com/2018/11/06/world/aus
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Once again a male comes forward and testifies for the actress.

Australian law is different than ours: They just have to prove that the press acted with malice.

In case The Times article won't open:

www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-10/geoff
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Exactly. That is the part that is unclear.

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I didn't follow the case enough to know. But usually those settlements include a non-disclosure clause - and if she violated that, one would think she'd have to pay back the settlement. That's how it's usually handled, at least in theory.

Pretty sure that was how the Michael Jackson settlements went.

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There's something I don't understand: Constand settled with Cosby years ago for $3.88MM. So then the question is, how can she then turn around and testify that she was raped, if the case was settled between them? It is a point Cosby's legal team made as well at the time. It would appear you cannot have it both ways.

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Yup. Although who knows, Kavanaugh certainly seems to live in a pure white world.

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If Kavanaugh wins, he can sit next to Clarence Thomas. They are likeminded.

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This mess just seems to get worse and worse.

And then Mitch McConnell has the audacity to say the Democrats are just stalling - after he and his buddies stalled for 400+ days.

Just. SO. Frustrating!!!!!

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They all, oddly, did a 180. I was watching CNN tonight when Trump dug his heels in (they showed that clip), then less than 24 hours later or thereabout, he changed his mind.

So did Graham. All bluster the day before, then today much more muted. Yesterday, after all the finger pointing, he did an odd thing: He looked down, seemingly at his notes, as if the whole outburst was planned. CNN said he's gunning for attorney general once Trump gets rid of Sessions.

Quite a few women came on tonight saying that Kavanaugh out and out lied about the simplest things. I think that's what is going to hang him. It is exactly what got Clinton impeached.

And, ironically, Kavanaugh just put together a campaign ad to get himself confirmed. Oddest thing I ever saw.

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I think the idea that this is all a blame game, con, and stalling tactics by the Democrats and all liberals or progressives is coming both from Trump and Fox News. I know other conservatives who are spouting the same garbage. Some pundits are saying that part of it was Kavanaugh signaling his loyalty to Trump.

And yes, it's very weird that Judge is basically refusing to get involved. Oh, wait, now he sent in a letter from a lawyer saying he's willing to be talked to but confidentially.

I agree, Kavanaugh's behavior was most unfitting for anyone who has been or wants to be a judge. And while Kavanaugh said this is ruining his life, the father of that Parkland victim, the man who tried to introduce himself to Kavanaugh, said no, HE is the one whose life has been ruined by losing his daughter - that what Kavanaugh is going through is NOT ruining his life.



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Yes, I too read that Judge was in the room. The curious thing is they stated that he is available for speaking engagements, but not before the Senate committee because he suffers from "anxiety and depression". That is the weirdest thing I've ever read in a political arena.

Kavanaugh's meltdown was a very disturbing exhibition insofar as he blamed it as a virulent attack by Democratic forces and liberals who are out to savage his reputation. That was quite the eye-opener. He is not qualified to be unbiased for the highest office of the Judicial branch at all, in my opinion.

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I think Mark Judge was in the room - not sure if he pulled Kavanaugh off or not. But he's the one who wrote a book about drinking to the point of blackouts, with a school buddy "Bart O'Cavanaugh" or something.

Kavanaugh has pretty much shown that he cannot be open-minded nor unbiased on topics - just his refusal to acknowledge the father of one of the Parkland victims showed us that. To me, that should have taken him off the nominee list immediately. Any judge NEEDS to be impartial - but also judge with mercy and compassion. And even if he wants to claim he is a strict by the books vote with the law and uphold the Constitution kind of judge, nothing in any body of laws would prohibit him from showing compassion to a grieving father.


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I have not caught up with today's news yet. Is Mike Judge the friend that pulled Kavanaugh off of Ford?

Even if there is an FBI investigation, I cannot believe that it will prove anything. Unless the men in the room come forward. And that does not seem too likely.

I have seen women comment on these threads, even ones who were sexually assaulted, that do not believe Ford. They believe her "gaps" are not credible.

I can actually see both of them passing a lie detector test. If he, indeed, blacked out he would have no awareness of what happened and therefore he could be seen as testifying truthfully.

But the fact that he screamed that this is a Democratic witchhunt engineered by liberals, is very telling to his bias. And that alone is worrisome for a role on the Supreme Court. Somewhere I read that he wanted to make sure that his testimony reflected his total support of Trump. If nothing else these comments are very, very disturbing.

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The postponement for the FBI investigation? Even if just a one week investigation?

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Watershed moment.

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YAAAAAYYYYYYY for all the decent men out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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1,600 men take out ad in The New York Times, noting they supported Anita Hill and now Christine Ford. There are good Y chromosomes out there. And with them and their support things will change:

www.elle.com/culture/career-politics
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The Clintons seem to have had a business relationship, more than anything else: To wit, "I'll help you become president, then you do the same when it's my turn." I think Bill alluded to that about their working together to attain the presidency. At the time the transcripts came out about Bill, I felt so sorry for Chelsea who wss just nineteen at the time.

Ravanel I think I heard of, when his story first came to light. Now he's been arrested. It is interesting to see how the tide is seemingly turning. Law enforcement seem to be taking these assertions more seriously now.

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Hillary Clinton is another example of cognitive dissonance. And yes, two diametrically opposed ideas or facts that should mutually contradict each other - but for the sake of maintaining a relationship or job or whatever, the person rationalizes the paradox somehow. They make it make sense in their own minds - even though the rest of us can't see any kind of way it can make even a little bit of sense.

And that Ravenel guy? Never even head of him!

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And one more. Politician turned actor arrested:


people.com/tv/thomas-ravenel-arrest-
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The argument, as I understand it, is that most of the other cases fell out of the statute of limitations. In terms of Constand, she was the only one that still fell in the statute of limitations. The other charges, as I understood it, were merge together because it resulted from the same incident. I, too, have not been following it closely.

What disturbs me the most is Camille's behavior in all this. The Daily Beast had a great article about this, but for some reason when I go back to the link, it disappears. Maybe because it was hit so many times it's not functioning anymore. We discussed this at length, and I met m had a great article about this, but for some reason when I go back to the link, it disappears. Maybe because it was hit so many times it's not functioning anymore. We discussed this at length the other day, and I met A woman who specializes in mental health law, as a lawyer. I could not remember the phrasing from the article but she knew exactly what I was talking about: A woman who specializes in mental health law, as a lawyer. I could not remember the phrasing from the article but she knew exactly what I was talking about: "Cognitive Dissonance." I don't recall having learned about this in school, but I probably did. In brief, it is the concept of maintaining to diametrically opposed ideas at the same time. In Camille Cosby's case, per the article I read, she has to stand by her husband, because why then can you justify staying married to a man for over 50 years with the behavior that has been proved? Now I have heard interesting comments coming from her as well by people who have been in meetings with her where they witnessed her clearly stating that she "created him" and she will fix it. That too, took my breath away.

Interestingly, as an aside, we talked about all the political man where the women stood by their side when they made their "mea culpa" speech. I remember how I was so struck by Silda Spitzer, and how drawn she looked, when her husband made his speech after being revealed as "Client Number 9", at a popular high-end call girl operation. While he, at the same time, shut down prostitution rings elsewhere in the city while being governor of NY.

The only politician's wife who refused to "stand by her man" was Jenny Sanford, when her husband was caught lying about his whereabouts on the "Appalachian Trail" while in reality he was cavorting with his mistress in Argentina. Because she so stood out by her behavior, people wrre frankly shocked. And the weirdest part was after he gave the speech, he called her and asked her to critique his performance, as he used to do. Talk about clueless.

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To me, it seems like way too little given the number of victims. I really don't understand why he was found guilty only on one count, not more. But I haven't really been following all the proceedings, so I may have missed something.

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Yes! Cosby gets three to ten years for the 2004 rape (NOT CONSENSUAL SEX) of Andrea Constand. As per her request prior to sentencing, she wanted "to see justice served as the court sees fit." I pray that this brave woman has some sense of closure now.

No one is above the law. Kavanaugh next (if he's guilty), then Trump (who surely is).

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Cosby sentencing hearing update: Judge rules that Cosby is a "violent sexual predator". This is a biggie. It was a strong bone of contention, with the defense noting that the law, as currently on the books in PA, is "unconstitutional".

He's going to go to jail. The question now is for how long? The prosecutor wants the maximum ten-year sentence.


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Yeah, it sort of seems that seem people think if they aren't winning, they're losing. They have no concept of just BEING.

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I actually just read about something like that today: The article noted that if things became equal the fear from certain men would be not so much that they would be equal but that now women would have the "power". These individuals see things through very myopic lenses. I thought that was very interesting.

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OMG - while the numbers may not be as high, the treatment of the women in these countries listed are even worse than in the US! Absolutely dismal!!!!

Sometimes I feel like we women need to rise up and take over the entire world!!!

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Here is some of what I found in other militaries world-wide:

thenewsrep.com/101164/a-look-
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It is mind-numbing to imagine 500+ assaults in one location.

But you are probably right about it being a superior using his position to get away with these actions. The pattern continues.

You racer very good point about other countries that have soldiers of both sexes working alongside each other. I have no idea what that answer is but it would be interesting to investigate.

And another vein, Ivanka Trump is recommending that her father give up Kavanaugh. I though that interesting.

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Absolutely disgusting. I've also read that most of the sexual assaults in the military are perpetrated by supervisors or higher ranking officers - so even if the woman files a complaint or report, it gets stopped because the assaulter is her supervisor so he can shred the report. Our senator from WA state, Patty Murray, submitted a bill to investigate these sexual assaults in the military, plus provide funding for abortions if the woman becomes pregnant. (Can you believe the women who do get pregnant from such assaults have been forced to pay for an abortion if they choose to do that?)

It really is horrible. The whole thing.

How do other countries, where women work side by side with men in the military, how do they do whatever it is so that this isn't happening? Why is this happening so much in our military? I mean, 500 a year at certain locations???? Just sickening!!!!!!

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And now the military:

www.time.com/5403526/more-than-500-s
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I agree, not all men are pigs. But it's shocking how many men who get to positions of power who take advantage of that situation by exploiting women sexually. I mean, if one took the entire population of men and looked at the number who are sexual abusers, and the percentage of those who are in positions of power, would there be a higher percentage who are in positions of power, or a higher percentage who are not? It just seems out of proportion.

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I don't think "all men", in general, "are pigs". I think *some* men in positions of authority abuse that position. Also because they are really small men, their own egos cannot handle rejection well. And thus they go out to destroy their sought-after failed conquest.

A Fox News opinion piece author noted that she had the identical experience in her first yesr of college that this psychologist had in high school. She wishes she were as brave as this woman, and could speak out about her own "guy", but she's not that brave, she says. She alluded to a successful case from the mid 90s where someone reported the crime decades after the fact, and it came to a satisfactory conclusion. Unless there was a hyperlink that I missed, I did not see which case this was.

Unless a specific pattern of behavior can be established in Kavanaugh's case, with other women coming forward, this case will not have the results that the opposition would like to see happen. At least I do not believe so.

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Ugh.

It really is never-ending. Men being pigs.

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Even in the world of music, the pattern remains the same:


www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/a
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Yeah. Must have been awful.

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Really - I think I'd lose a friend over action like that!!!!!

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What must have been particularly disappointing to her was when her friend who was clearly a witness to the events of her story, totally recanted what he did when he rescued her.

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I'm hoping we have enough people who will vote against Kavanaugh - for whatever reason!

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And now Kavanaugh:

www.nbcnews.com/politics/supr
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This will never be proven. Especially since her friend (male), who supposedly pulled Kavanaugh off of her, said it never happened. She did pass a polygraph in August.

Once confirmed, he'll fit well besides Clarence Thomas, who I have absolutely no doubt did what Anita Hill accused him of.

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I think many people (children as well as women) feel possibly they are the only one going through this, because for so long it wasn't talked about. Or the perpetrator would threaten them into silence.

All it takes is one person to speak out, and then the others realize that it wasn't just them. That they aren't alone in this.



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I understand that about the women, but it was documented that she reported it in the late 1990s on two occasions. I don't know what she thought it would accomplish at that juncture. That is all that I am saying.

Sometimes, especially with young children, it has taken them decades to confront their horrific past. Plus, as we discussed earlier, maybe here or elsewhere, once it becomes public knowledge other people come forward and that's how those teachers were finally brought up on charges. The strength of the argument lay in the repeated similarities of their stories, of those now grown men. Where was it? I think New Hampshire.

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I don't know - there are so many more schools than their are television networks - so even though there might be a greater number of molesters, it may still be a smaller percentage of the total number of principals or teachers or priests. Just as an example. But as you said, we hear about it because the network heads are known.

And re someone waiting 20 years to report the harassment - no idea how old the woman is, but if it happened when she was 20, for example, she might have been too intimidated to say anything. Or she was still working there, but no longer is. I know as a young woman, there were occasions or incidents when I reacted differently than I would now - I've become much more outspoken than when I was younger. Also, the woman (women) may have reported the actions previously and not been believed - we've been hearing a lot of that as well. All kinds of possible scenarios.

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I don't know if that is true. Look at the boys that will molested by school teachers and priests and other people who have close associations with young children. It took three or four decades for that stuff to come out.

I will just take a wait-and-see attitude and see what evolves. In the case of Moonves, he admits to having had a relationship with three of the six women, but he insisted it was consensual. One of the women reported her involvement with sexual harassment by Moonves, to the police on two occasions, but 20 years after the fact. I honestly don't know what to make of that. She became enboldened by the times to finally tell what had happened? Or is she jumping on the bandwagon because it was now acceptable to do so? I just don't know. But no way would something positive come out of that after 20 years. The police took the road that the statute of limitations has expired.

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Part of it is that yes, we're hearing about it. But it almost seems as if the head of each network is implicated - yet not necessarily every publisher, or newspaper editor, or school principal. Just seems as if a higher percentage of men in entertainment have been abusing or harassing women than other professions or industries.

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I do not think it is limited to the entertainment industry. They are getting the most press because the people involved are famous and we have seen their images for years. That is what makes it particularly striking. And part of the settlement does he have to give $20 million to groups that support women. Nice touch.

EDIT: Now they are withholding his settlement, which I now read is upwards of $180 million, pending "further investigation". Reading his wiki blurb, he came out in full support of the #METOO movement. Hey is also a founding member of a commission that was established in 2017 to address sexual-harassment in the workplace. Incredible irony. But he's not the first one.

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