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4/9/12 7:49 A

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Scary stuff, TX!

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Texas and Florida are the two worst states for lightening! Shortly after we moved here, I sent a mare away to be bred, and she never came home. She was out in the pasture standing under a tree during a thunderstorm, the tree was struck by lightening and it killed her! So, I know all about the risk of lightening!

However, our horses have been out ever since through all kinds of weather with no problems.

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4/5/12 7:53 A

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Sorry for the delay in responding -- it's been a crazy week or two! In answer to some of your questions:
- It seems that Rose has always kicked somewhat (I've had her 8 years now, I think), but either she does it more now or I'm just more aware of it.
- She is not on any high-energy feed. These guys only get hay/pasture grass with a small handful of pelleted feed as a "treat" when they come in at night. They don't work hard enough to earn the "good stuff"! LOL!
- I guess they don't HAVE to come in at night, but I feel like they are more secure or safe. We don't have good solid fencing, just electric wires that I feel like they could run thru easily if they got spooked in the dark. We also try to limit their time in the pasture so they don't deplete all the grass and have enough to get thru the summer without feeding hay all year.
Normally they go outside rain or shine for the day, but I keep them in when there are thunderstorms (I had a friend whose horses were killed by lightning) or blizzards.
- I do notice she is worse and "making a statement" when she hears one of us come outside; especially first thing in the morning if we don't put them out right away. At that point, I figure she's basically saying "We need some attention; hurry up -- get us our food!". However, if I manage to get a glimpse of her "in the act", she is still standing near Beau's stall with her ears laid bad when she does it. She doesn't normally do it when any humans are in the area.

I appreciate all your suggestions and will see what I can put into action. If I do some major clearing of currently-unused stalls, I could move her across the aisle so the two of them can't get into each other's spaces. I appreciate everyone sharing their experiences, too. I'm thankfully we haven't seen injuries or major issues yet. Thanks again for all the ideas!

JOANNA -- Your poor old man! Sometimes they just don't realize how good they have it! You are right -- you have some silly horses (I think they ALL are to some degree!).

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Thoroughbreds are a little high strung on grain when not in working condition. We have a half Arab/Saddlebred with an attitude problem. She is stalled at night also being a show horse my granddaughter doesn’t want her out all night. If she doesn’t like the horse in the stall next to her she is a kicker. Her temper has caused her several problems over the years.

She has kicked out boards, kicked and caught her fetlock in between bars (we had to cut her out of that one, I was sure she was going to break a leg before we could get her down), she kicked up over stalls and got her leg caught on the other side. Tore up her under belly and leg trying to drag it back over. We had to use an electric saw and cut down the boards to release her leg. Then wait for weeks during the healing. This mare climbs the stalls at the shows if you take her mate away from her. She can’t stand to be alone without which ever mate she is friendly with at the moment. We put up with it because she is so beautiful in the ring and wins.

I also have an aging old old appy. He has been my horse since birth. I never believed in stalls when they are healthy so he was allowed to live out in rain, snow, sleet and sunshine all year around. The past few years because of his age I start the fall by bring him in. I just can’t stand the thought of him out there in the cold night. Apparently he doesn’t share my concern. I can hear him banging on his stall all night long. He just sits there and bangs and after a few days…he is not only banging he is swaying back and forth. I end up putting him out thinking I will come out one morning and find him down in the snow or something. I guess I have to adjust that it will be his way of going. He just doesn’t want to be inside for any length of time. He will stay in for a while…to be bathed, clipped, farrier, vet check but when night comes….turn him loose.

I have been lucky as to not have to suffer all the problems that can develop with stall kickers. Mine are all silly horses. We have one that wants to put his front legs in the trough and play with the water, we have one that finds gates and shoves his head through them bending up the fence gates or knocking them loose so the horses can escape. Unfortunately he has not been lucky being stuck in the fence head first it has been too heavy to take with him. We have one that loves to test the pond for crossing, she fell through one winter and it took two jeeps and some chains to get her out. (That’s a story in itself)

Horses, I can go on and on and on. But, I love them what can I say.

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3/29/12 2:48 P

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also, what are you feeding her. if she has too much energy, she needs to let it out and will get silly.
my horse normally just gets hay in the winter, since he's doing next to nothing. but, i had to give him bute and used cob (corn, oats, bran) to mix it in. after a couple weeks, he was a nut. i've stopped giving it to him and he is more normal now. he kicks the walls sometimes, but, it is a one footed kick and he also does it when he's just in the middle of the paddock. i think it's some kind of leg stretch thing for him.

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Sounds to me like she doesn't want anyone near her. Put the wall back, and try not to put any other horse in the stall next to her.
It may be just a habit now, but if it is due to some other horse it will help. I have one horse that always kicks when he eats.
I think it is because he doesn't want any others to get his food. She may be afraid of that as well.
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I agree that your mare is exhibiting signs of vice or boredom. Is this something she just started or was she doing this when you bought her?

Maybe she has a history of having been stalled 24/7 with very little turnout. We have never had a horse with this problem, but have had several who are restless in the stalls and don't like being stalled..

Is there a reason for stalling them during the night? If the weather is nice, our horses are out all the time with an available 3 sided shed if they want to go in to get out of the weather or the hot sun. They are very happy this way. Just a suggestion............We used to keep our show horses in the barn during the day and turn them out at night, so that the sun wouldn't bleach out their hair coat.

Horses are always happier outside, and the veterinarians down here advocate against stalling them.............Just a thought. Good luck with her.

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Hi there :)

Sounds like a combination of vice/habit and confinement. She very well can hurt her legs; splints, capped hocks, windpuffs, stifle injury or worse. Does she have to be left in? Canyou put her in a round pen instead?

There are kick chains, which if used correctly and briefly can help some horses quit kicking, you can free feed low nutrient grass hay in 'small bite' hay net to keep her occupied, deeply bed the stall to enourgae sleep and protect her legs a bit, put mats on the back wall to pad the impact, wrap her hind legs for protection or practice tieing her and feeding her in her stall (safely - correct rope, halter and feeder height) so she gets used to being in there for small amounts of relaxing time, not just during 'lockdown' :)

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Wondering if any of you have had to deal with a horse that is constantly kicking in his stall. We hear my little mare kicking her stall walls all the time. I worry that she is going to hurt herself. Both horses are out in a pasture all day (weather permitting), but are put in for the night. We thought Rose's kicking might be a "confinement issue", so took out a stall divider so that hers is a double-wide (now 12x24 instead of 12x12). Although that helped some, I am hearing her kick more and more frequently lately. Any suggestions on how to deal with this? Although it's pretty hard on the stall walls (she has actually split some of the 2x8's), I'm more concerned with her doing damage to herself.

Of course, we can rarely "catch her in the act", but the few times I've managed to get a quick peek in without her knowing I am there, she has been standing at the end of the stall next to the stall wall that's shared with her barnmate. I've thought it could be she just gets irritated with him, but there is evidence of kicking at the far end of the stall, too. Would love some input from others Thanks! --Julie

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