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I guess sometimes, you just have to EXPECT them to behave well, and they will! Keep us posted on Trigger's progress! You really have me interested now!! emoticon emoticon

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Glad to hear that it went great!! It can make us so nervous when you are moving them. Take care. Let us know how the traing goes.

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I am playing catch up again.
I am sooo glad to hear it went so well and that Trigger is happy to be back with his friend! emoticon
Keep us updated with his training... it will be fun to follow.
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FanTASTic! I think sometimes we actually cause the problems to happen when we EXPECT them... We're acting "differently" and the horse can pick up on it. Jen just took it for granted that Trigger would behave fine and he did. Awesome!

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Good news! Thanks for letting us know.

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Excellent! thanks for the update!! I knew it went well, but not that well!





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That is wonderful. I've been waiting to hear also and so glad it went well. I have a trainer that sounds much like yours - just seems to do things with ease when I can make it such an ordeal....lol! Let us know about his progress with the trainer.
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Woohoo I love happy success stories. That is fantastic. So glad it went so well for you. Sounds like you found a great trainer.

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SO relieved and glad to hear it went so well! I like the no-nonsense approach - no fuss, no muss! It gives them a feeling of confidence in you. And what a wonderful thing for Trigger to have his BFF Lucky back - a happy story all around! AND one less thing for you to worry about! Yay!
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I'm SO sorry to keep you all in suspense!
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Trigger was an absolute ANGEL! emoticon

Well, I can't just credit him... The trainer who will be working with him (Jen) came to move him Thursday and basically, she did all the work while I stood and watched. And what a show it was to watch! I truly believe that some people are "horse whisperers" and I am convinced that Jen is one of them.

I had warned Jen ahead of time of the issues we've had in the past... We've tried coaxing Trigger into the trailer, bribing him with grain, he'd never been tied in a trailer, I've never LEAD him into the trailer for fear of getting trampled to death, etc... I filled her in on everything just so she could be prepared for the worst (as I was!).
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So, when Jen arrived at my house around 11:00 on Thursday, she walked right up to my pony, said hello and started walking to the trailer with him. Clearly, she's a no-nonsense girl! She walked into the trailer (ignoring my advice), gave a little tug on Trigger's lead rope and lo' and friggin' behold...

HE WALKED RIGHT IN! emoticon

Not even a hesitation! No stomping, no attempting to escape... He just found the pile of hay she had there for him and started chowing down, comfortable as can be! AND she tied him! So, we closed the door and off we went to bring him to her barn. It was a smooth ride the entire way and he even unloaded perfectly. It truly could NOT have gone any smoother!

So, after witnessing this unbelievable change in my horse, I am once again reminded that he growing up, mellowing out and is becoming more and more ready to ride. I am so happy with him. And with Jen, who I am already so impressed with, I can't WAIT for her to start working with him! Trigger is settling into his new barn very well and seems so happy to be around other horses again, ESPECIALLY his BFF, Lucky, who he hadn't seen in over a year (they used to be pasture mates). The two of them obviously remembered each other and I watched them run around, playing for almost an hour. I'm so happy the move was a success.

Thank you AGAIN to everyone for the wonderful advice and for checking in to see how things went! You girls are the BEST!
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YES!! waiting!! Just know it went well!! emoticon

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Yes... waiting for an update. Everyone ok?

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How did it go????!!!!

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Best of luck today Palominogal! Cant wait to hear all about the success you are going to have.

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And oh yes... GOOD LUCK TODAY, PALOMINOGAL! Deep breaths, stay calm -- everything will be fine!

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Great suggestion, STARLADY. That's kind of how my old appaloosa ended up loading. Only he only got grain in the trailer -- worked just as well for him. I said this before, so sorry it's a repeat. We'd have the trailer parked in the pasture and we could hear him clomping in and out of it all day long!

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My girl was HORRIBLE about trailering (rearing up and slamming her head into the top edge of the open trailer... multiple times) so we started feeding her every meal on there. We would back the trailer right up to the barn entry, so she couldn't try to go around it. To make it seem like a "real" trip, we'd prep her with shipping boots, fly mask, and all that jazz. And then we'd show her the food going into a bucket on the trailer. She would not get ANY food until she loaded and ate from the bucket.

After a month or so, she was more than willing to load up. And these days, she's a self loader!

I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to reply earlier... Hopefully this will be useful for you in the future. One thing I can say for tomorrow, is don't let your horse get stuffed on breakfast before the move. He won't be nearly as excited about the grain that you use to encourage him. Anyway, I hope the move goes well!

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Here's hoping it's not an adventure at all... Adventures are nasty things, they make you late for dinner ;-) Hope you have a very **boring** day!!!

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A GINORMOUS emoticon to everybody who took the time to reply to this posting! I appreciate all of your advice. Tomorrow IS the big day and I will keep you all posted on how everything pans out... I'm sure it will be an adventure!
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And to Wild Woman and Kathleen, LOVE your idea of a little booze to help calm MY nerves! I've got a bottle of bubbles chillin' in the fridge right now!
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I think tomorrow's the day of Trigger's move...? Let us know how things go!

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I haven't read all these posts so my apologies if this is redundant. But if you practice loading him anyway, practice loading him all hitched up and PRETEND you're going somewhere. Or do the reverse - do go somewhere but pretend you're not - and just drive around the block. And with an older mare I have, for over ten years now I just say to her - it's your trailer, tear it up girlfriend and let it throw her fit every time if she needs to. The more often I went somewhere the calmer she eventually got.
I can't wait to hear how this turns out and I agree with the ones I read - calm yourself - and it will help your horse. That's why the pretend thing is helpful for practice.
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Be sure to let us know how it goes.

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Looks like everyone here has already given tons of great advice. I am sure things will go fine, especially if you do a few practice loads and trips around the block. And the glass of wine for you probably won't hurt either!

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Practice like the real thing, drive around the block. Paste for the horse and a glass of wine for you!!! (let some one else drive)Good luck and keep us posted!! BREATHE!! emoticon

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Definitely get the paste, cannot hurt. note that it is recommended to give an hour or so before needed.






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I want to add my vote for practicing with all the stuff you would usually put on him to trailer. Then use some calming breathing for yourself.
The paste is a great idea. We have used it for trailering and showing and it works well with no after effects.
If you could have a person with no worries come over and handle him before you actually leave, then this would calm both you and him.

Please let us know how this goes.

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Keep practicing and also include those practice runs around the block. They really help and they will help you calm down too. I was really nervous about moving my Jasmine. She had NEVER been on a trailer when I moved her to her new barn. I practiced with just her for a little bit. Then I would put my other horse in there and practice loading. Next I would pull in and out of the drive way.

When it came time to go, she was a champ and that was only with 2 days of practice. I recently had to move her back to her original barn and she had to go by herself. That marked her second trailer ride ever. She loaded great and other than a few stomps when we got started and calling to Sassy she did great once we were away from the other place. She unloaded calm as you please. She is only 4 and half.

I really love the idea of feeding them in the trailer to start with. I think that is a wonderful way to desensitize them. It lets them know its a safe place and there is nothing going to get them in there.

Best of luck to you, I hope you have as much luck as I did.

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A calming paste is a great idea! The fact you get nervous really does make your horse nervous.

However, unless you take the paste too it is easier said than done to stop feeling that way lol

When I moved my 2 year old I had the gentleman who drove the trailer load him. He just walked right up to my colt and led him on in and it was a done deal!

My colt was caught off guard with a new person handling him and the driver (an experienced horseman and friend) had no expectation other than a load and go ~ and it all worked out fabulous.

He drove slow and careful and left him untied so he could balance and turn as needed. Lots of horses prefer to ride backwards so if you have a box stall option, that is a great way to learn to trailer without fear. Others do better with a partion that is open on the bottom half or partition moved over to far side to alleviate that trapped sensation.

If none of the above are an option for you, remember lots of horse go in straight, tie up and drive off in old small rickety trailers - nothing fancy at all - and arrive safe and sound.

He will do just fine and it will all be over before you know it :)

Good luck with your move!


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We had a mustang that we showed several years ago in different things and we had to dress him up as a clown and we used some of that be calm paste and it worked very well.

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Just on a fun note, when my grandpa first got my old appaloosa Orville, he would only feed his grain in the trailer. He'd park the trailer in the pasture and put the grain in it. We couldn't keep that horse OUT of the trailer -- he'd be in and out of it all day long. Hysterical!

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Oh, I totally relate to the fear. Some of my worst "incidents" have involved trailers. I think you are doing the right thing practicing. Except we are much more nervous and they can sense it when it's the "real thing". I think SHIRLZI has a good point -- make sure you do all the same things in practice as you would for real thing. Is it NEXT Thursday you move Trigger (4/15)?

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Have you included an actual short drive with your practice sessions? In any case, good thick wraps on his legs will be useful... Do you do the whole prep drill on the practice runs? If not, he'll know by leg wraps etc. whether it's serious or not...

Good luck! Let us know how it works out!

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To all of my "horsie" friends,

I am moving my mustang, Trigger to a new barn next Thursday and the closer it gets to the day, the more nervous I am! He is 3 years old and has only been in a trailer 3 times, none of which were wonderful experiences. I've spent hours practicing getting him in and out of trailers and have always been able to get him in by coaxing him with a little grain, but ONLY while we're practicing. Every time he's been in a trailer to actually GO somewhere, he freaks out - fights going in and stomps his feet the entire ride. It's like he knows the difference between practicing and the real thing!

I would love any advice that you all have on this subject. I've even wondered if there's some sort of natural remedy I can give him to mellow him out a little beforehand. I know that "Calm and Cool" is really popular around here with the show horses but have never used it on him.

Any tips, advice, words of wisdom are MUCH appreciated!

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