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I can certainly relate to the "pooping in the water bucket" scenerio. How totally disgusting and frustraing. I love trying to clean out a heated water bucket in the dead of winter.

My guy is blind in one eye and we are thinking his other one is going to be close behind. Any helpful tips other than to keep everything the same and forget about ever taking him trail riding again. Sigh. I love him to death, but he can make himself so darn big when he wants. I am sure you can all relate.

Thanks for the stories.

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Great stories everyone! I love the one about peeing in the cross ties when the grain gets poured and I am grateful one thing I don't struggle with is cribbing. My horse's funny "vice" is that he hates cold bath water! If the water is even the slightest bit cold he sidesteps and jigs in the cross ties, rolls his eyes and tosses his head. Wherever we board, my first question is: "Is there hot water in the wash rack?"

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My current horse is a 17.2hh warmblood. I asked every question when I bought him other than "Will he hack safely on his own". Boy was that a mistake, he will reverse at speed, buck, spin and generally try to unseat you. Other than that he can be pushy and be a pain to load. But I love him and he is a sweetie. Just have to learn to have a secure seat and ride in jods with a sticky seat.

My last horse used to rear and when I worked on that he laid down on the ride with me on him. When that didn't work he just got up and walked off with me still on top. Oh and he could spook quick as lightening.

Never been able to afford and expensive horse so I have worked with whatever I had! Still adrenaline is good at raising the heart rate.

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George is a fraidy cat and tries to hide behind me when he feels threatened - bad bad bad! He is also spooky of white or black rocks depending on the day - sacking him out is a piece of cake it is only when on a ride and "oh my gosh!" there is a rock - being a thoroughbred he spins and runs emoticon you can certainly take it from there!

Neither habit is dangerous now that we are both older and more knowledgeable but still - those are his faults!

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Garrett is overly friendly with other horses (particularly mares - and he IS gelded!), and sometimes can be a handful to control when other horses are around. I almost never let him just follow another horse when there are multiple horses working in the arena, because he would very quickly forget I am on his back! I always take a different track & only follow when it's unavoidable, for a short a time as possible, to keep his attention on me. He is MUCH better behaved around other horses when my 5yo DD is on him though - he knows he needs to take care of her!

His friendliness with mares was a problem this summer, when he and his best newly-gelded buddy were put into a pasture that shared a fenceline with a mares' pasture. His buddy still had lots of testosterone and thought that Garrett was stealing his harem, and really tore him up kicking and biting - they had to be separated, and buddy was taken across the road to the stallions' area for a while to settle down without mares around. Even that experience hasn't stopped Garrett from being Mr. Social AT ALL!

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Anyone with a cribber - please don't think they'll learn not to crib and that you can take the collar off. The damage, both to the horse, property, and the potential to teach other horses the vice, is much worse than any possible discomfort (and I don't think there really is any, anyway). I had an 11 y.o. TB cribber, he came with an old collar that didn't even have to be tight, but once it was on, he wouldn't crib because he associated not being able to crib with it being on. If it wasn't on, he was looking for something to crib on! When I sold him at age 15, I passed on the collar to his new owners...

Here's a great link on the topic:
www.alphahorse.com/horse-cribbing.ht
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I have a horse that compulsively drinks water (no medical reason) and pees like crazy in her stall. It's just gross.
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My TB/Qqarterhorse Rhapsody is so sweet and gentle, but at the same time very rude and bossy.She has to be the first one fed, and has to have all the attention. She is turning into "Monk" if everything isn't the way she thinks it should be. My other horse, Buckwheat, also a TB/Quarterhorse is so gentle, but afraid of her own shaddow....she is afraid of everything!!!

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I've been reading through this conversation, and can relate to many of these vices. We have a horse that doesn't like to be "contained" - tied up, in a trailer or in a stall. She has never stood well when tied with any kind of halter or rope! Following one event in which she broke the rope in a rear and went over backwards, we sent her to a trainer because we didn't want another big vet bill. She broke 4 vertebrae in the withers and had to be put into a small pasture for "stall rest" as we couldn't keep her quiet in a stall. During her month with the trainer to work on tying, she broke 23 ropes/clips, bent their bathing rack, and pulled over their hot walker. Amazingly enough, they didn't charge us for all that damage.
With her at 21 years of age now, we don't tie her up, load her only in a 3 horse slant or larger without tying, and only put her in stalls with her buddy next door when medically necessary.
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1/9/10 10:28 A

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My saddlebred mare is famous for pooping in her water bucket! No matter where I put it in her stall she will still poop in it! Drives me crazy! She tends to also paw at the ground when stretched out for class line up. That has gotten WAY better than when I first got her, but it is still super annoying.

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Thunder is a Tennesse Walker. They are gentle by nature. His only vice? He likes to poop right in front of his feed trough. So, whenever I feed him, I have to clean up first so he doesn't pull his hay down into the manure. He's perfect otherwise!



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The jury is out on that one. I have always heard it was a learned behavior and believed another horse taught it to mine as he started at 8 yrs of age.

However.. They were turned out all day and there was nothing for them to do but mosey along, no grass, etc.

Then my friend asked a vet if she heard it is hereditary and she said yes and there is studies showing it is. Now my horses damn did not crib, but she would chew wood when bored but his sire did crib.

so.. who knows? Maybe being hereditary makes him more predisposed to it and he picked up because he was bored and saw another horse doing it?






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Cribbing isn't something he'll teach the other two, is it? I've never had a horse that did this before.

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don't bother trying to remove a regular cribbing collar in hopes they'll stop. Cribbing released endorphins, so basically your horse is getting high ;0)

I'm surprised it worked w/ the electric collar? Wonder how long that horse has been cribbing?

I would LOVE for my horse to stop. He picked it up when he was 7 or 8 and is 17 now.





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wow...If I had the time to do that, I'd be all over it. My boyfriend took the cribbing collar off yesterday, and I haven't caught him cribbing in the past couple days. Maybe if I just keep slapping it back on when he does it and leave it on him for a few weeks, then take it off, he'll find other things to occupy his time...like visiting with the other two horses next to him.

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I went to Berry College in Rome Ga. Some of the animal science majors did a study on a cribbing horse. They made a shock collar with a remote and took turns hiding in the barn. Whenever the horse went to crib, they'd give him a mild shock. He'd eye the boards warily afterward. They eventually broke him of the habit...but it sure took a lot of time.

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The thoroughbred is a cribber. I think that the absolute WORST! he makes me crazy with that. We put a collar on him (last resort, we tried everything else)and that has reduced the cribbing, but not completely ended it.

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My Irish Sport Horse mare, Lady, has a few habits that I wish I could convince her to give up!

One of the more annoying things she does is pee in the barn aisle if she is in crossties when grain is being thrown! I always try to get her back in her stall as quickly as possible around feeding time to avoid having a big mess to clean up, but occasional accidents are unavoidable! Never in her life has she missed a meal, but she is apparently convinced that an invisible horse will invade her stall and wolf down her measily half scoop of grain if she isn't waiting for it at the bin.

Lady also gets a case of separation anxiety if we are riding in a group in the indoor ring and all the other horses leave. She never had this problem at our old boarding stable, but at that facility the indoor was attached to the barn and at our current stable it is a good 3 minute walk from the barn. Although she doesn't do anything particularly dangerous (she will jig, rush, and generally act distracted), it takes her at least 15 minutes to settle down to work again.

Another of Lady's quirks is her abhorrence of hind leg protection. She hates having boots on her hind legs! She picks her legs up ridiculously high at the walk, moves like she's crippled at the trot, and flat out refuses to canter. She is slightly more tolerant of polo wraps, but no matter how carefully I apply them, Lady somehow manages to unravel them halfway through our ride.

But, other than those few things, Lady has impeccable manners! She's really spoiled me...any horse I own after her will have a lot to live up to!

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11/27/09 11:54 P

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I've been taking care of a co-worker's horses over the Thanksgiving break. There are four of them ... an old Warmblood, a bossy Arabian cross, a sidekick Quarter Horse, and the bossy pony (the only mare). It's been an interesting week.... that pony WON'T let me catch her. She runs from me, my parents are the only ones who can catch her...really its my dad ....I dunno... not my horses! LOL

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Oh, she's not tooooo bad. As long as you don't mind being bitten, kicked, and run away from, she's great. She's cute as a button though. She's a little pinto with mismatched eyes... could hardly be cuter if she tried (and she doesn't try, believe me!).

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Of Course you are eligible to participate - although a Shetland? You may have more vices to list than space on this blog - hehe! My first pony was a Shetland, OR-NER-RYYY! He knew every trick in the book! emoticon

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One of mine is a Shetland Pony. Am I even eligible to participate in this discussion?

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That's a great idea!

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Getting him willing to get on the trailer is a big step for us!

For the pawing situation... I was told by a fellow rider that his trainer took a horse shoe and some how dangled it so it kinda hung over the horse's leg ... when the horse would paw, it would hit it's leg against the shoe ... So the horse was doing it to himself (with or without a human around... of course the set up was for when the horse was tied), realized it hurt to do that so she stopped pawing when she was tied up. Could possibly try something like that?

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"We got Eddie ALL the way on the trailer today!! No Panicking!!! We got the butt bar up and the door shut and he just stood there and munched on hay!! We opened the door, he continued to munch hay, we dropped the butt bar, he stayed!! He didn't scramble off or ANYTHING. He just backed out on command!! I'm so ecstatic!!!""


CONGRATULATIONS! It's awesome to have an accomplishment like that! emoticon

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My TB paws. He's fine for awhile in cross ties but as soon as he's over it, he starts pawing and then manages to freak himself right out over it too. I've never been able to get him to stop. If he's truly nervous, he will paw even when I'm touching him, even though that usually calms him enough to stop. Tips, tricks, anyone? :)

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Way to go! All that hard work pays off.

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We got Eddie ALL the way on the trailer today!! No Panicking!!! We got the butt bar up and the door shut and he just stood there and munched on hay!! We opened the door, he continued to munch hay, we dropped the butt bar, he stayed!! He didn't scramble off or ANYTHING. He just backed out on command!! I'm so ecstatic!!!

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- The hardest thing about riding...is the ground
- Dogs have owners... Horses have staff
- Horses are God's apology for men ;)
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LOL!! She sounds a lot like my 20 yr old bucksin mare( pic on my page).She has her moments too. She can't stand still to be saddled ,will pin her ears and threaten to bite when being cinched up, put DH over the fence when she foaled the first time, (but not me)has rollers in her nose ALL the time,will step on your feet when given the chance. Do I love her ? OH YES!!! She is my pride and joy!


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Bitsy can NOT be put in cross ties - period. She is fine being tied other ways, but cross ties are out of the question. She freaks, will slam backwards on them, sit down, has skinned up her hocks fighting them... Even smacking her on the butt doesn't get her to quit pulling. She stops when she breaks either the tie or her halter. So, I just don't use the cross ties on her. And yes, I have a rope "be nice" halter for her and that doesn't matter in the cross ties.

Let me see, she also can be a PITA about trailer loading, she jumps water puddles and has almost jumped on me, and she bucks when asked to go faster than a trot... I cured her biting by biting her back one time, I cured her kicking by having a plastic bucket handy and throwing it at her when she tried to kick the last time... Oh, and she lays her ears back and snaps like she is going to bite when cinching her up... I am working on that one.

Soooooo - I like challenges obviously. LOL She's really not a bad horse, just a very temperamental mare. LOL

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Maybe you should try the egg trick, hehe!

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Yes, that's all we use around here CHIBITROWA,It's the only thing that doesn't break.This is a problem we are used to so it doesn't cause us a lot of headache.What happens is she sort of spaces out while pulling and will literally hang there till she comes out of it.Whacking her on the backside won't even get her to jump back up.We tie her to something solid if she needs to be tied ,most of the time we don't bother tying her up especially if she's saddled .I'd kill her if she flipped over and broke the tree in my saddle ,maybe she needs to flip over and scare herself so badly she would quit.It's a dangerous habit but it can be avoided by not tying.


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CUTTINABBY - Have you tried a rope halter? the type with knots in it at special pressure points?

My 3 year old... Eddie... used to load so perfectly on trailers, he was such a good boy. Then last December we took him to be gelded (I made the mistake for not loading him for about a year prior to that). Well, he got REALLY sick and almost died after the surgery. Now we are pretty sure he associates my trailer (a 2-horse straight load) with ...nearlyg dieing. Bought a Trailer Loading DVD from Chris Cox, two weekends ago my parents and I watched it and went out to work with Eddie using that technique. ... that Darn horse BIT me on my breast!! I shrieked out of course and popped him, he learned his lesson. Then the barn owner came over and told me to use her rope halter with the knots in it... it made a HUGE difference in his behavior. We got him to load up onto a friends trailer ...2 horse slant load. (Now he'll jump up on it). Still working with him getting on the straight load though, he'll get everything but his back legs up. However, considering all we've been through and all the tramua, I think we're progressing really well.

Monday I lunged him for 20 minutes straight, he had sweat dripping from him. Lunged him because it was only my mother and I out there working with him and we wanted that extra safety measure. He got nearly all the way on the trailer, stood there, relaxed and even did a bunch of yawning. So, I think we're getting there... I hope! :)

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- The hardest thing about riding...is the ground
- Dogs have owners... Horses have staff
- Horses are God's apology for men ;)
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Kathleen...the egg idea is incredible. Glad it worked.

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Biffrones picked up cribbing when he was 8. emoticon

He does not like to be behind another horse when jumping, he rushes his fences and does not pay the much attention to me. I guess he is just positive that he is being left behind! He doesn't refuse any fences this way though!

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The problem I have with Phyliss is halter pulling and she does it well.You would think when that halter is digging into her head she would quit but oh no she just pulls harder.I think part of the problem is her eyesight,she has kind of smallish eyes, and she spooks at shadows


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Great stories! When I first got my Belgian draft cross, he had a bad habit of rearing when he didn't want to do something. Since I was terrified of having this 1600 lb. horse fall over on me, I wanted to break that right away. So I took some advice from a trainer and did what sounded really strange, but it worked! I loaded my vest pockets with eggs, and tacked him up and worked him in a round pen. Each time he started to rear up, I cracked an egg between his ears. Apparently, the sensation of runny egg makes them think they've injured themselves, and they stop the behavior. Anyway, it worked, and I'm happy to say he hasn't reared up in 8 years.

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Kitten has a terrible habit of trying to bite you and push you around while on the cross ties. Her owner (I'm half leasing) was afraid of her, and as she started to act up on the ties, started giving her treats. Ummmmmm, not the right thing to do! I've been working with her, and she's considerably better than 3 years ago when I started with her, but still, she's a mare!!

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"Being an Arabian he is also quite capable of teleporting and leaving me dangling in the air until gravity takes over."

LOL, I've had that sensation, too.

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Sir has bit and kicked me intentionally once each and on separate occasions. Both times it was done in a calculated manner so he made sure the point got across. The kick was from me being too harsh with him and almost 6 years later, he bit me on the wrist because I was talking to someone and not giving him all my attention.(And he did warn me.) At no other time in 11 years together has he ever tried to do either one again.

Being an Arabian he is also quite capable of teleporting and leaving me dangling in the air until gravity takes over.

Edited by: AMACHERIA at: 11/10/2009 (21:51)
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11/10/09 9:47 P

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We had the trailer problem thing, too, for a while. Finally got him out of it for the most part. He will however, spray you with the water hose if given the opportunity to grab it, take off with your tools, brushes, drinks, chips, etc., etc. etc. He is quite mischievous.

The other is very rude to dogs. And the people that happen to be standing near them! He despises dogs for some reason and will do his best to get at them if they come near. You have to be extra careful when a dog happens to be around. He has gotten some better over the years, but you still watch him!

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ok Preacher vice like mine are sweets. He just loves peppermints. He is pushing until he gets one and he doesn't let any of the other horses have a treat. He doesn't respect anyone or anything but I am working on that.

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Traveler's biggest problem is loading into a straight haul trailer for two horses. It is the worst scene imagineable. I had to have a trainer come out and work with him before I could move him to our new digs. I must mention that he will go into any other kind of trailer without any trouble at all.

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my horse lightning is to lazy to make his vices dangerous, but the major one is threatening to kick when i tighten the cinch. he's getting better as we work on that, just like his cribbing problem. Oh well, who dares to make me feel better with worse vices?
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