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It used to be the cliche for lesbians to be politically involved, but things have changed, haven't they...?

Oh, and vegetarian. I got Part 1 down, but not Part 2...

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In response to the redundant team name question: I agree most lesbians are liberals but I know many, many lesbians that aren't really interested in talking about politics much less becoming involved. So, I look at the title as more of a 'Lesbians who are interested in politics and are liberal.'
My to cents...
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Thanks for posting that link... it does show some great parallels, doesn't it?

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i hear you loud and clear, janiek! hey, check out this op-ed piece in today new york times....gotta love those parallels!
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Live out loud, wackos are always listening, but they are impotent. Iowa and Vermont are awesome!!!!

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hey, just read this article. DARE i say (in a very low, hushed voice, just in case any wackos are listening), this sounds pretty positive?
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I think it shows how much things are changing that the Iowa courts would make this ruling. Very cool.

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WOW! GO IOWA! if only some of the apparent "liberalism" if the depths of the bible-belt would rub off to the other 46 (47?) states that passed valid same-sex marriage acts. who would have thought this about iowa???? i don't know that i'll live to see it in florida. some of this state is still so redneck, it's frightening. some days, all i hear in the background is the "deliverance" banjo theme song....what do you ladies thing of iowa? any friends/family/sparkers you know of who are going to be taking advantage of this?
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I cannot see prejudice, hurtful, negative behaviors as ignorance. It stops being ignorance when you form and voice an opinion. The public sector is a particularly bad place to betray people.

I sometimes get very tired of being called a one issue voter when I speak out against candidates that openly oppose our civil rights. Justice may be one issue, but it carries through almost every issue. Either you stand for what is just or you are part of the problem.

Unfortunately, our system of government forces us to choose the lesser evil. I often find myself having to decide between a two candidates on the basis of who will do the least harm to me and my family. I have learned to tolerate a lot, but to never stop working toward making things better.

The idea of a gay prom when I was in high school, or bringing a date of my choice to any event was laughable. In the seventies I married a gay man because he needed a beard if he wanted to get into medical school. We have come a long way, but we still get used as political fodder. We are still on the margin. We still have work to do, and for the most part, the queer conservatives are too chicken of losing what they have to do the work.

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love these discussions, opinions, and insights. being a long-time lesbian, i was confronted with a lot of prejudice, disdain, and other negative behaviors. sometimes it's ignorance (no, not bliss). sometimes it's downright hurtful. some may argue that it's unintentional, that they didn't mean it, it shouldn't be taken that way, some of my best friends are....whatever....i say put yourself in the other person's shoes and THINK before you open your mouth. that flapper is missing on some people. if it's not missing, they just don't care. and that really makes me upset, frustrated, and angry. that betrays an inate superiority (or is it stupidity?) that i personally find intolerable. nancy

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Conservative and liberal had very different meanings when I was younger. These days I tend to see conservatives as people who want to take away personal freedoms and liberals as people who want to take away personal income...given that choice I will choose the liberal every time. I can make more money but there is nothing I can do about the loss of liberty.


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Of course there are lesbians who are conservative and lesbians who are apolitical and lesbians who are unclear in their thinking. We are everywhere, which unfortunately includes places we shouldn't be.

I think my partner's oncologist is conservative. She has a great deal of privilege and it has made her more conservative.

It is always more distressing for me when I meet a lesbian who is apolitical or conservative than when I meet a straight woman who holds similar views.

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Silly question: Is the title of this group redundant? I'm sure that people out there will say that of course there are lesbians who are not liberals, but do you actually know any? If so, what are their views?

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I think everyone should be allowed to live as they see fit. Having, from time to time, spent a few days in womyn olny space, I can say that it is a welcome change of pace. However, I am not sure these places will survive another thirty years. There are too few of my generation interested in separatism. I cannot see women of my daughter's age or the generation after her feeling the same need to live away from men that women of the 60's and 70's had.

In everyone's life, at some time, our inner fire goes out. It is then burst into flame by an encounter with another human being. We should all be thankful for those people who rekindle the inner spirit.

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Really took me back to the dyke wars of the '70s. I never forget how far we've come and on whose shoulders we stand.

I thought separatism was an incomplete vision then and I still think so. However, I wish these womyn unlimited success and peace.

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hey, what do you gals think of this? (hope it works....i'm so not teckie)....nancy

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I think we are living in scary times and that calls for radical actions. The question I still have is will he lean toward the Roosevelt idea of scrapping programs if they don't work? I am cautiously optimistic about his plans. It is certainly refreshing to have someone in charge who sounds like a world leader.

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What did everyone think of Obama's speech and plan?
I think it's scary and a little radical, but I am so relieved he's in charge and trying to fix the problems. I thought he spoke beautifully, as usual.
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Yesterday's Herald-Leader suggested that McConnell was becoming increasingly irrelavant, though, and his influence was waning. Let's hope the trend continues.

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So wonderful to have Kentucky's senior senator be the main obstructionist to passage of the economic stimulus package. I guess helping the country isn't on his list of duties for the office.

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LOL! What the governor is doing is disgusting!

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How very embarrassing this business with the IL governor is. Apparently, everyone is trying to make money off Obama's good fortune, not just the commemorative coin people.

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I like what I am seeing because Obama appears to be choosing people based on their skill and their strengths and not because of promises made.

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Now that the election is over...

What do people think of Obama's Cabinet picks so far?

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Greetings, YoYoDietNoMore:

Gays and lesbians are not a monolithic group, so some people ARE offended by the separate semantics. However, there are very real benefits married couples get, especially at the federal level, that even the most broadly-worded civil unions can't provide. For example, married couples don't have to pay taxes on benefits they get through their spouse's insurance, while people in domestic partnerships do. If I precede my wife in death, she has to pay all sorts of taxes on the house I leave her that a legal wife wouldn't.

Civil (secular) marriage involves the sharing property and a legal partnership, as opposed to 'holy matrimony', which joins people together under a divine blessing.

Left to my own devices, I would prefer that the state offered 'civil unions' to every couple, conferring the same benefits on all of them, while letting individual churches decide whom to unite in 'holy matrimony'. I really think that shows like 'Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire' were more demeaning of the concept of marriage than gay couples wanting to marry... and those TV couples got all of the benefits we can't have.

Forwarding politicians' careers? Yes, that is the motive in many cases. The Democrat who sponsored the anti-marriage amendment in KY in 2004 did so on the advice of his campaign manager. People were implying that he was gay because he was unmarried. Didn't do him a bit of good in the election, but lost him a lot of volunteers and donations.

Bush was in office for 8 years, during which several were also years that the GOP held both the House and Senate. Abortion is still legal, and only ONE state (Vermont) passed civil union legislation before he took office. All of the other civil unions/marriages took place afterwards.

So, yes, I think both sides use issues for political hay. I wish they'd remember that it's human lives they're playing with, not chess pieces.

Thanks for coming in and being up front with your questions!

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Hello,

I have to join your team to ask a few questions. Not sure if I'll be welcomed, but I'm just looking for people that live this lifestyle to be upfront with the answers I'm looking for. I don't want them from someone that has an opinion to sway my thinking.

I've been reading this post and I'll be up front. I am a conservative republican and I just have a few questions about the prop 8 and think that you'll be of some help.

My question is this? What is the actual problem with the whole "gay marriage" thing? (sorry, I'm not up on all the PC lingo so please bare with me)

This is what I'm seeing and maybe someone can let me know how on track it is:
I understand that getting married gives couples (gay or not) more choices with insurances, visiting rights, financial situations, . . . but here is where I get confused. Are gays/lesbians upset because states are calling it a "civil union" and not calling it a "marriage" ?
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Are gay/lesbians upset because states are not calling it anything and are not recognizing any type of a "legal commitment" between people of the same sex?
I hope my questions are easy to understand. I know what I'm trying to say, I'm just having a hard time putting them into words.

Here's another twist to my questions. How much of this issue is being used by politicians for furthering their political careers? How bad do they even want this issue to be resolved? If it never gets resolved, it is to their advantage. There are always going to be candidates on both sides of this issue and will be able to use it to their advantage one way or another. I'm talking both Rep. and Dem. alike. They will tell anyone willing to vote for them anything that person/group of people wants to hear. What are your experiences with that?

For the record, I am a christian, conservative republican, and although, I may not agree with your type of lifestyle, believe it or not, I don't have a problem with people of the same sex publicly promising a legal commitment to each other and I don't even have a problem with it being called a "civil union". I do however have a hard time accepting it being called a "marriage". We all know what the conservative republican's definition of marriage is.

I'm just trying to understand all of this. I want to be accepting and tolerant of others, and I ask for the same in return.

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I am glad that we chose the right president. I am also very sad about prop 8. We are making progress though, and that is a step in the right direction. I have high hopes of what will come!!

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Our president elect is one I voted for!!! Hasn't been like that for 8 years!

Not too happy about Prop 8 in CA, though.

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Now for something really scary this Halloween...there are still people out there who can't decide how to vote!

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Well, we're getting down to the wire now. We did some canvassing over the weekend, and we delivered several yard signs.

What I'm worried about is another theft of votes. Here's a link to an incident in WV:
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Maybe everyone else is out there walking for candidates, too.
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Honestly, some of it may be politics overload. We're seeing so much of it in the media and getting so many emails on it (well, _I_ am), that we'd rather talk about other stuff.

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With the most important election in our lives coming up in less than a month I can't believe that nobody is talking about it on the list.

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We spent this morning walking for one our local candidates. She is gay-friendly and running to replace another gay-friendly official. We want to uphold that tradition.

Anyone else out there walking for someone local?

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With the financial mess unfolding it is going to be interesting to see what happens with the Washington crowd. This bail out is not going over well. The taxpayers might just revolt if Bush pushes this one through.

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Why do people go against logic when it comes to voting? If you're looking for a leader that can get you out of a crisis, you don't look for someone 'just like regular people'... you should be looking for someone SMARTER than 'regular people'!


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Palin looks like the average small town mom. I am not sure the voters will see through the surface. American voters never seem stop surprising me with new depths of ignorance. Just when I think they can't make a worse choice they do.

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I'm OK with Biden, I was a little surprised, but it appears to have helped with the "white male" vote. I'm a lifelong union member and it seems to have helped with that voter bloc. I do think that Hilary will have a place in the Obama administration, but it will have to be more glamorous than a senate seat to move her.

Did everyone get a chance to catch Tina Fey as Palin? Wow, it was eery! She continues to scare the bejeezus out of me.

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Palin is a nonstarter... if Obama is inexperienced, where does that leave her? Lieberman would have been a better choice and would have thrown everything on its ear. There's a good chance that the stress of being president could kill McCain, and then we'd have Dan Quayle in drag leading our nation.

Biden... well, I had other preferences. Clark, Edwards, Feingold... all would have added either pizzazz or at least a more progressive element (since they won't say 'liberal'). I believe he didn't choose Hillary because they would make a poor team. Too much water under the bridge and not enough time to lick wounds.

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Anybody else want to chime in on our VP choices? So far nobody has said anything about Biden. People a heartbeat away from leading the country should be worth some discussion.

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Palin as a parent has, in my opinion, been under par. Her stand on sex education has already slapped her in the face with her own daughter. Her family will have to deal with the consequences of her daughters pregnancy. Obviously she did not get the message across at home. But I am sure someone would be happy to point out my parenting mistakes if I were in the public eye. We all make them.

Sure the mess her personal life seems to be in bothers me, but her performance as an elected official bothers me more. Claiming to have said no to the bridge to nowhere after supporting it strongly until forced to abandon the idea is dishonest to the core. Keeping the money compounds the insult on this pork project. If she really wants to say no thanks to congressional pork barrel spending she should send the money back. The treasury certainly needs it.

Her policy as mayor of a small town is revealing of her willingness to stand up for women. Making rape victims pay for their testing kits sends a cold chill down my spine, and should be having more of an impact among the voters than I have seen so far.

I have problems with her desire to drill in the Alaskan wildlife reserve. It is a bad idea being pushed for all the wrong reasons.

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I didn't think it was a leap, but OK.

Yes, I'm concerned about the Palin hysteria, especially among women. I'm a working mother myself, but I've always had to make career decisions with my child in mind. I've had to turn down jobs I've really wanted because it would turn into a situation where someone else would be raising my child. That wasn't why I became a mother. I am still a working mom, and have been able to make choices that served my family, not just me. I see her as being supremely selfish. Frankly, maybe I should have compared her to Karl Rove, not W.

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9/13/08 10:00 P

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Hay I've seen stumps smarter than W. but he is in the White House. What does that say about our electoral process?

I'm curious to see the VP debate. I was not particularly impressed with anything I have heard from either of them yet.

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9/12/08 11:00 P

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Ooh, that's cold!

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9/12/08 10:14 P

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Goodness, here we are in the midst of an election and no one is talking politics?

Someone wrote a letter to the editor in my local paper and made the observation that the McCain ticket has gone from the "reach across the aisle" ticket to the "stick it in their back and twist it" ticket. Best comment I've seen so far.

Palin is like a smarter W with a vagina.

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9/12/08 11:23 A

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What do you think of the VP picks? Any thoughts on what either of them will do for the race?

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9/11/08 10:06 A

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Back to politics...

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Do you think the shooting today was political? Have we reached a divide in this country that makes this ok?

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8/11/08 9:51 A

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Who knows what causes someone to cheat? It is disappointing that Edwards did, since he seemed to have one of the stronger marriages in the political world.

He doesn't really strike me as the thrill seeker type. I don't think this is a signal that he is going to pull a Newt and dump his wife while she is dying of cancer. These are human beings going through an emotionally wrenching time and he did something stupid.

I am personally glad that the mainstream press left him alone and let the tabloids break this story. If only they would do that with other public figures.

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8/10/08 9:20 P

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If Hillary cheated on Bill, most people would say it served him right.

I think that infidelity is not judged as harshly in our culture as it used to be, but it helps if you already have great stature before people find out.

I am disappointed in Edwards, to put it mildly. It doesn't mean that he wouldn't make a good political leader... but I do think less of him as a man.

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What's up with John Edwards?

Do you think that female politicians cheat on their spouses like male politicos?

Does adultery detract from the political good a politician can achieve? FDR cheated on Eleanor for decades and in general was a great president. JFK seems to have been a naughty boy, and still did well by his country.

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I am planning to vote in the race with the hope that it helps us secure a Dem majority. I am worried, though, about what will happen with Ted Kennedy's seat. A state that would elect Mitt Romney as governor won't provide a shoo-in for the next Democrat. The next Democrat might not be as liberal, either.



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8/5/08 9:27 A

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I have seen Democrats use some of the same sort of slime. The corruption isn't confined to one party. All of us face the same problem at the polls...do we support the devil in our party or the one across the isle? In Kentucky we are looking at a senate race that has one of the most corrupt Republican incumbents in the nation and a Democratic challenger who equally dishonest. I am inclined to sit out this race, but find myself torn. Having a Democratic majority in the senate might be of some benefit.

In everyone's life, at some time, our inner fire goes out. It is then burst into flame by an encounter with another human being. We should all be thankful for those people who rekindle the inner spirit.

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8/4/08 8:18 P

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Karma will catch up with the prayer thief, whether he/she is Jewish or not.

I was in Eastern Washington for a few days and there is a sign in support of the Republican gubernatorial candidate that said "don't let Seattle steal this election." (Last election Christine Gregroire won by 133 votes, probably from Seattle.) But there are no billboards like that on the Seattle side of the mountains. Would we Democrats really be selling our souls to use the same tactics our "friends" the Republicans use?

(Probably a rhetorical question....)

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8/4/08 10:57 A

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Not me. Prayers are private and should remain that way. Considering the reputation of the Hebrew god I'm surprised the guy wasn't afraid of being struck dead.

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I think that if the student in question was a rabbinical student or attending a Jewish institute of learning, he should be expelled.

I was unprincipled enough to read the text, though, and I think it was a very good prayer.

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7/26/08 4:08 P

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What do people think of Obama's prayer being stolen from the west wall and published?

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7/25/08 9:36 A

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I think that maybe we are all regular folks no matter where or what we are. There is no such thing as a typical voter, each person walks into the booth with a different set of values and biases. I have a deep resentment for the way the media tries to lump us as being the same. But the net is changing that and the press is scrambling to catch up.

We have a system that allows for as much of a voice or as little as we are willing to use. My congressman knows me on sight, because I have talked to him regularly. He doesn't usually agree with me, but he knows that I am politically involved and he cannot afford to ignore me. I am on a first name basis with several of my city council people, because I worked on their campaigns. If really believe that if you want your voice to count you have to put some action behind the words. Use it, it gets stronger with exercise. Write your paper, call your elected officials, work for good candidates and you will be find people listen.

On the other hand, my state rep and state senator are both Republican and do ignore me. They do not answer my phone messages or contact me. You don't see either of them walking in my neighborhood but so far there aren't enough of us to dislodge them from office.

It is important to remember that all those other different voices have opinions too. You have to seek out the people most like you and find things to agree with them on. You are not going to agree on every issue, but if you let them know you're there you can be listened to. They are unlikely to come to you if they don't know you exist. I think we have the same awesome power infants have. A smile at the right person or a loud wale will do wonders to get what you want.


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In a way, 'regular folks' have ALL the say... as defined by focus groups, the media, and advertisers. As far as I can tell, America is supposedly populated by farmers, blue collar workers, and stay-at-home soccer moms. Oh, and they're white.

Instead, Americans are mostly employed in service industries and working single moms are way more common. There are, of course, plenty of non-whites, but the media always treats them as a group, as if they were all the same (come to think of it, they do that with white people too).

Honestly, no one on this board qualifies as a 'regular' person. Even if you're neither a lesbian nor a liberal, you're still active in an online group. Take advantage of being exceptional.

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I'd say the first question is "why should we care about politics? It seems like regular folks don't really have a say."




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Well, MJ was interested in learning more about politics, so I thought I'd create a thread.

Where shall we start?

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