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VALERIE1619's Photo VALERIE1619 Posts: 1,084
2/2/14 9:36 P

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Your doc should easily be able to order samples for you.

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2/2/14 9:13 P

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Fantastic info, Valerie. Thanks! I'll talk to my doctor about switching. I like the idea of having an extra day of use, too.
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2/2/14 8:38 P

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never mind sorry I just reread the post LOL


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2/2/14 8:37 P

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that helps alot thanks I am going to find out about this...I use a medtronic...which do you have Val....

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VALERIE1619's Photo VALERIE1619 Posts: 1,084
2/2/14 12:57 P

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We're talking about three pieces:

We can all agree that the tubing is plastic--the tube that delivers insulin from your pump to your insertion site. It comes in short lengths, usually about 23", and long lengths, about 43".

The inserter devices have a metal needle that punctures the skin. It's sheathed in a plastic cannula. So the metal INSERTER NEEDLE is removed, leaving behind a plastic cannula; that's the part that's in your body.

The CANNULA, which remains in your skin, is teflon (plastic) in many of the sites on the market, like Quicksets and Insets.

The brand I use, which is called Comfort Detach, has a STEEL cannula which remains in my body. The benefits of steel are that they can't bend or kink once in the body, and for me, can be worn an extra day or so without site irritation. In fact, since I switched to a steel cannula, I haven't had one site become sore or give funky readings.

Hope that helps!
Valerie



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2/2/14 12:06 P

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O.K. Now I know I don't know what I'm talking about!! emoticon

My infusion sets are two pieces: A manual-insert needle device that is steel on the outside, and the tubing (cannula???) is 23 long inches of plastic that connects pump to port. What am I missing here? When I remove the old port it sure looks like sub-dermal part is plastic.

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VALERIE1619's Photo VALERIE1619 Posts: 1,084
2/1/14 10:19 P

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My cannulas are steel. You can request samples from different manufacturers, or call your pump company or doctor's office. I received a box of samples of the Contact Detach and love them. I never thought I could do a manual insertion but they are so easy and less painful than my old Insets, which had the prone-to-kink plastic cannula.

Here's what mine looks like:
www.tandemdiabetes.com/Products/Infu
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2/1/14 5:59 P

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The inside part is plastic--you are right. emoticon










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RLEEGIRL's Photo RLEEGIRL Posts: 530
2/1/14 5:24 P

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The ones i use now have a steel outer needle to go in....but the actual inserted part is plastic is that the same thing?????Or is it actually steel in my body

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2/1/14 5:06 P

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RLEEGIRL: My bad. I don't mean the whole infusion set is steel--just the insertion needle. As I understand it, the steel needle insures a deeper penetration and straightness to the cannula end. Sorry about that.
The tubes are still the same. My sets do not come in a shorter than 23" length so I'm forever tucking and making sure there are no twists or kinks.

My diabetic team prescribed the insertion sets for me after one of my checkups.

Edited by: PFERG66 at: 2/1/2014 (17:07)
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RLEEGIRL's Photo RLEEGIRL Posts: 530
2/1/14 4:46 P

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Learn something new everyday...didnt know they made steel cannulas ...sometimes my plastic ones will kink or bend upon insertion then starts the rollercoaster ride...sometimes the damn thing will say "No delivery" but more often not....also use back of arms.legs,tops of thighs more than stomach...do you just ask for steel when you order or do you have to have doctor prescribe it ?????

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2/1/14 2:08 P

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MICHTOMAN: Hi!
By squirrelly I mean they seem to be working fine (as Valerie says, I keep the insertion site from the old one in place until I'm sure the new one is working). No, these failures are unexpected. I have contacted the company and it was then that I went to steel sets. I am aware of certain areas to avoid and will probably go to waist sides , hips and arms more often.
With all that said, sometimes the thing just fails.
It's good to have your voice on this team!

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2/1/14 11:43 A

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I had some issues with some infusion sets and it was an issue with the set itself. When you say "squirrely"... what do you mean exactly. My problem was solved by calling the company and having them replace the defective sets. Also, when talking with the representative she told me of some things that other people had problems with (I didn't) and how to fix them if I ever DID have that problem. I think the company is your best bet to start.

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1/31/14 11:23 P

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I never remove an old set when I put the new one in without waiting for at least an hour or so. That way, if there was any insulin still pooled around the catheter, it won't seep out by removing the site too soon. This is more problematic for people who use large daily doses of insulin

I use about 28 units a day total, so it's not too big of a factor, but I still do it.

About a year ago I switched to steel needle sets. I used to use Insets with a teflon cannula but found they can insert crooked or kink now and then. Now I use Contact Detach sets which I really like. I've not had a bad site in a year, which is saying a lot. I typically leave my sites in about 3-5 days.

It's also important to avoid areas of scar tissue. I've got areas in my lower belly that just don't provide good absorption due to many years injecting in the same place, prior to pumping. To keep my skin in good shape, I use my arms, above my waist in the front and back, hips, and some areas of my lower belly. I don't typically use my legs because I prefer short tubing, and wear my pump in my bra.

I use an Animas Ping, which has the meter which is a remote, a feature that I love.



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1/31/14 9:55 P

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We must look for the opportunity in every difficulty instead of being paralyzed at the thought of the difficulty in every opportunity.

~Walter E. Cole


I find that my infusion sets will suddenly go squirrelly and I end up going sky high before I can change out the dang thing. Really ruins my A1c readings. Other than changing it out every two to three days are there any other tips about optimum infusion set management?

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