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5/4/09 3:24 P

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SP has a bunch of common restaurant menu items in their food tracking database, and I know there are a decent handful or articles with suggestions for what to avoid and eat when going out. Many restaurants have nutrition info online now so you can look it up and choose before you go, and even if you're hitting up a small local place its a reasonably safe assumption that a plate of chicken enchiladas with rice and beans is going to be about the same where ever you go.
I use (usually after the fact, lol) a copy of Calorie King- its a little fits-in-your-purse sized book with calories and carbs, fat and protein for pretty much every fast food joint known to man and a bunch of bigger chain restaurants are listed too, as well as non restaurant specific foods like "bagel with cream cheese" or "apple pie". I guess if you're tech-savvy and have one of those handy internetphonethings you can download nutrition programs straight on them, and I guess SP has a Ipone app now so you can look up and log from where ever now.
Phew! That's a little more than you asked for, hope it helps!

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5/1/09 9:58 P

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Ah going out... that's my biggest downfall! It's hard to eat healthy when you eat out because there are so many delicious items on the menu. If you can try to stick with a salad. Some of the salads are going to be more healthy than others... so just look at what comes in each one and decide. Also, try and stay away from soda or sugary drinks. I usually stick to water.

Also, at some restaurants they have low calorie items on the menu, which is always nice :)

Try to stay away from pasta/breads and things with high carbs because as we all know the blood sugar will sky rocket!

Hope that helps..

Have fun tonight! :)

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5/1/09 9:57 P

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Ah going out... that's my biggest downfall! It's hard to eat healthy when you eat out because there are so many delicious items on the menu. If you can try to stick with a salad. Some of the salads are going to be more healthy than others... so just look at what comes in each one and decide. Also, try and stay away from soda or sugary drinks. I usually stick to water.

Also, at some restaurants they have low calorie items on the menu, which is always nice :)

Try to stay away from pasta/breads and things with high carbs because as we all know the blood sugar will sky rocket!

Hope that helps..

Have fun tonight! :)

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5/1/09 5:52 P

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Thanks for all the insight. I haven't noticed any weight loss, but I do have a bit more energy. What I do is eat breakfast but don't bolus, take my insulin pump off then excercise. For me it has been staying pretty normal-only varies like 20 points. I am happy with that. Even though weight loss is what I want....health is what I need. But I wont settle.

I do have a question.....wanting to go oout with my sweetie tonight. WHAT DO YOU GUYS EAT WHEN YOU GO OUT? DOES SP HAVE A LIST OR RESTAURANTS AND CALORIE COUNTS? PLEASE SHARE.

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5/1/09 4:40 P

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Definitely exercising at the same time of day can make it easier to figure predict/prevent whatever happens to your BG. I figured out that my best time of day is late afternoon BG wise, that way all of my lunch insulin is used up (holy cow, if I exercise with active bolus insulin in me still I drop crazy low crazy fast, like 100 mg/dl per mile of slow jogging!) and I ALWAYS have to eat before hand, so I try to make sure I exercise before dinner but after an afternoon snack (with no bolus).
I tried the same thing in the morning, but I don't seem to respond the same so I figure I'm better of sticking with late afternoons, because I can (usually) make it work for me. : )
I still haven't figured out what goes wrong after 45 minutes though (not that I can jog that long), but something changes after 45 minutes and I end up coming back higher than when I left....

Just one more example of how losing weight with diabetes can be harder- if you don't figure out how your BG will react to a given exercise, you can end up eating WAY more calories than you ever burned!

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5/1/09 4:27 P

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My biggest pitfall in losing weight is having to eat more to cover for the lows. One of the things I do is an hour long Zumba class and for that I have to basically eat a Powerbar and not bolus for it prior to class in order to maintain my blood sugar. However I did manage to lose 20 lbs prior to Sparkpeople before I hit my current plateau. The trick is managing to slowly reduce your insulin requirements in a safe way, I think.

A couple things that work for me -
-Exercise to help bring down highs. I can reduce my correction boluses somewhat if I do some gentle exercise. This might be going for a walk or a little ab work. Exercise makes the insulin absorb better(Obviously be careful if you are really high and possibly have ketones)

-Try to schedule exercise at times when your blood sugar tends to be higher. Since this is usually following meals you don't want to do something too strenuous that will cause cramping, but I often take a walk after I eat my lunch, which allows me to reduce my insulin by 0.5-1 unit.

-Strength training is important to keeping the metabolism going and I find has more lasting effects on lowering my blood sugar than the quick drop I tend to see from cardio. Try to do a couple of sessions a week.

-Develop a pattern in your exercise routine. I know we all have crazy lives that change from day to day, but I find that it's easiest to learn how my body responds if I tend to do the same activities at the same time of day. When I started Zumba, it took several classes for me to develop an approach. Now, I can end up around 100 whether I start out at 60 or 260 before class (well, most of the time).

-When you are trying to lose weight you should be logging and reviewing your blood sugar so that you can make adjustments to your insulin regime as necessary, assuming you are comfortable doing so. I highly recommend Using Insulin if you are on MDI, or Pumping Insulin if you are on a pump, both by John Walsh. Both help you understand how to use insulin and contain most of the formulas your doctor uses when setting your doses. Of course, you might want to talk with your doctor, too. *wink*

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5/1/09 2:35 A

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I have the same problem. I've lost weight there and here over the last five years, but I can't seem to reach my goal.
I've heard it's harder for diabetics to lose weight, so for us we have to put in that much more of an effort.

The more I workout, the more I tend to eat because my blood sugar remains a lot lower when working out!
It's really frustrating.

I just ordered the pump, so I am hoping that will help keep the blood sugar in control.

What type of exercises and eating is everyone doing?

I found what works best for me is to count calories and work out like an hour a day. That's how I lost the weight I've lost. It's really hard to do it day after day, but it works. It's just really hard to get used to substituting what you love to eat, for something super healthy. I used to snack on crackers in front of the tv and now I have switched to fruits in front of the tv! It was hard to do, but it works! I actually have a lot more energy now too

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I have the same problem. I've lost weight there and here over the last five years, but I can't seem to reach my goal.
I've heard it's harder for diabetics to lose weight, so for us we have to put in that much more of an effort.

The more I workout, the more I tend to eat because my blood sugar remains a lot lower when working out!
It's really frustrating.

I just ordered the pump, so I am hoping that will help keep the blood sugar in control.

What type of exercises and eating is everyone doing?

I found what works best for me is to count calories and work out like an hour a day. That's how I lost the weight I've lost. It's really hard to do it day after day, but it works. It's just really hard to get used to substituting what you love to eat, for something super healthy. I used to snack on crackers in front of the tv and now I have switched to fruits in front of the tv! It was hard to do, but it works! I actually have a lot more energy now too

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4/30/09 9:51 P

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You are not alone. It seems so unfair. I feel the same way. I think I have made good changes with no results. I am new to SP-only 2-3 weeks, but I haven't lost a pound. What am I doing wrong. I only have 2 friends on SP and neither are diabetic. Please someone HELP ME!

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4/30/09 2:39 P

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I am struggling with the same issue. Friends around me eat less and loose weight. I do and nothing!!! It is frustrating. I just started SP and have lost some weight. I increased the amount of water and logged what I eat. It was really eye opening the calories I was consuming. (when I thought I was doing so well) However, my blood sugar has been a up and down this past two weeks and my body is reacting negative to the change in diet... So I guess I don't have a good answer either.

I am however not giving up this time. I am going to hang in there a few more weeks and see if my body accepts the change in diet.

It is nice to see I am not the only one facing this issue.

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4/24/09 5:09 P

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Hey Lemony,
After 15 months on SP, I've lost 4 pounds, no joke. I managed to get down to 145 last summer, but I put 5 back on over the winter, and even with eating vegetables and getting exercise and drinking copious amounts of water, its taken 15 months to permanently lose 4 pounds. To be fair some of them fluctuate on and off, but its hard to make enough changes without goofing something else up to keep it off.
I've found that the trick for me (I think, obviously it only works so well, lol) is to make tiny little changes so my body forgets to notice something is going on. I know if I start to exercise more, I have to do it pathetically slowly and plan to spend about 4 weeks "tinkering" with new insulin rates/ratios otherwise the exercise causes too many lows and I end up eating way more calories to fix the lows than I possibly burn from exercise.
My theory is that bodies have an equilibrium of sorts (probably several) and when you suddenly change something, it makes bad stuff happen. If you can make little changes over time though, it gives your body a chance to adjust the other little bits and pieces so there's never a shock to your system, and eventually you can get to a place where you start seeing the results you want.
It is frustrating watch nothing happen. Yeah, all those internal benefits are great, but its still frustrating not be able to SEE the greatness. I don't have a great solution, nor have I had much success, but like Elin said, try measuring inches or counting push ups or something more tangible than a scale's read-out. I'm lucky enough to have access to semi-annual biometric readings from my work, and even though I've actually put on 3 pounds since last November, I've lost 1.5% body fat; my cholesterol went from good to better, and my blood pressure is (a teeny bit) lower. I can't see any of that, but I actually carry around the card with the results on it because it makes me feel good.
Slowly but surely something will eventually change, but in the mean time, skip the scale and focus on making good changes regardless/despite what you've gained or lost.
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Good luck!

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4/23/09 5:21 P

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You are welcome!
Oh I know that feeling! One gets so frustrated! Hate that.. But are these "other people" also having diabetes? Diabetes is a hard thing to deal with.. Just take it slow, look at other things.. Like.. managing blood sugar levels... GREAT! And.. well.. My dietician told me to just cut back on carbs if I wanted to loose weight.. and I believe I have.. slowly... But I have done it is such small steps I haven't noticed my changes my self! : P

Keep up your good work! Take a days rest from exercise, you have deserved it : )
/ Elin

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4/23/09 5:15 P

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Thanks Elin,

I think I'll try cutting back on my carb intake a little, since I count carbs when dosing insulin. I'm definitely happy about the internal, physiological changes, but it's frustrating to see other people doing exactly the same activities as me and dropping 5, 10 or 15 pounds easily... while I stay the same.

Thanks for the tips,
Emily

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4/23/09 11:37 A

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Hey : )
The key to loosing weight when being diabetic, if I have understood things right, is to try to decrease the need of insulin (since insulin is a fat-binding hormone)...
I am not really sure what I have done, but I have lost about 10lbs... I think that I have been drinking more water, tried to keep up a regular exercise regime.. I have also tried to decrease sugar intake (although I have almost given that up now and eat what ever I feel like HAHA)...

On idea is to just try to learn how to be happy with your body the way it is. Do not exercise every day, the body needs rest! Drink a lot of water, and keep away from candy and cookies - sugar that is. Don't be upset when the scale isn't moving. Try to take measurements instead, try to have your goals at "living" without sugar instead of loosing weight, mini-goals are great! (take, "when I have been without candy/cookies/ice cream/whatever for 10 days I will get myself a new pair of shoes..." instead of when you have lost ten pounds...)

I know it is hard to see that it takes so much effort and time to loose weight, but be patient. Having diabetes or insulin resistance makes it harder to loose weight... Try to look from other perspectives instead of giving up : )

Great luck! /Elin

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Hi all, I'm new to this forum, but not new to SP. I've been here for over a year struggling to lose 20 pounds... and the scale isn't moving (it has even gone up!)

I started an intense daily exercise regimen two months ago, and I completely revamped my diet, but its doing nothing to change my figure or budge the scale. Granted, there have been healthy side-effects of the workouts--my HA1c has gone down from 8.0 to 7.2 and my other tests are coming back clean (urine, etc) but I JUST CAN'T LOSE WEIGHT.

I'm getting really bummed and I want to give up. I know its nice to have these internal health benefits but its a bummer to look at myself in the mirror and see no change after so much work.

Has anyone here lost weight? What did YOU do? Were you able to keep your blood glucose in check at the same time? Inspire me!

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