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1/5/09 2:10 A

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I usually start to feel the lows when my BG is around 80. Yesterday, I had one of those lows where I was down to 27 and I did not feel a thing. I checked my BG before taking the dog for a walk and I was 126. It was 27 when I checked 45 minutes later when I got home.
My first reaction is to consume as many carbs as possible, but I then run into the "liver highs." I talked to my doctor and he recommended taking 15-20 grams of carbs, resting, and rechecking after ten minutes. If my BG is not improving, take another 15-20grams of carbs. I know that doing this is not always convenient, or even possible, but I have found that it does help to counteract the extreme highs from my liver trying to help.

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1/4/09 6:36 P

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Over the past 9 1/2 years of diabetes, I've had a few times where I check my BG and it's in the 20s with barely having a low BG symptom. At least not enough symptoms to htink I was that low. I know how you felt, looking at that number and still being consicous. It's strange. I've had it happen only a few times, and I still feel my lows up at 70, so I think it was a fluke thing.

I also have that long exercise BG spike thing. I hate that, I'm doing this good long exercise to be healthy and help my BG, and then I get high BG. Argh! I'll have to try more carbs throughout my excercise, maybe my liver will calm down when I do that.


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12/4/08 12:26 P

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Higher emoticon , lower emoticon all around
Low emoticon , high emoticon and shifting too
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12/4/08 12:21 P

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"With my Dexcom I tend to be able to catch it before it gets to low, but some day are like yesterday where the dang thing was off by about 100 points and I never got a low alarm even though it was set to 90 and my BS was at 27!"

WOW! You've brought me back to the 'almost human' club again, thanx!!

I have many times tested in the twenties and thirties and the MINIMED cgms is in the 60s. I'm convinced that the combination of 15 minute 'wait' and the ability to detect and display a low are both at play.

I am seriously committed to answering a LOW alarm within the time it takes to find food, although (as we all know), I forgot to take something with me on this short trip....

About the bounce: read the literature on symalin and similar stuff: it probably has a LOT to do with this as well. Unfortunately one CANNOT take a shot of symalin when low as it slows down the stomach and injestion of food (as well as prevents liver from releasing glucose)...


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12/4/08 12:54 A

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okay so I have been through it all on the diabetic train so lows I have gotten myself even to the point you mentioned I was on the marta ( rail train in atl) started to feel a bit out of it so I checked and my sugar was 26!! uggh !! are you kidding me?? I had no clue and was on a train and had no way to fix it I keep testing but was not getting worse symptoms and then bam I woke up in the ER appently I have no awareness to low bg so I have to be way more catious and diligent of my diabetes care and I am because if I ever wake up sweat drenched and freezing and a knot on my head with none of my clothes just a gown on I will freak!!! although it has happened before not as bad and will prob happen agian I do really stay hard core on my testing and feeling.

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12/3/08 3:15 P

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You're welcome : )
You know, eating carbs while exercising isn't bad. You don't need to take extra insulin due to it.

Nowadays, I usually take 9units to dinner, but if I am going to exercise afterwards, I only take 6units, since I don't want to be low... And that is actually enough! This works for me right now, but earlier when I exercised for so long, so many times per week my doctor told me I should drink that to avoid low BS values... It was quite annoying though, I had to bring two bottles every time ; ) hahaha.. But it was worth it. It worked... Try it^^ don't worry, if it doesn't work, you have at least tried right? : )
Good luck!
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12/3/08 3:07 P

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Hi Elin

Thanks for the thought on a drink while exercising. That may be something to try. In the past I have shied away from carbs while exercising because I figured carbs meant taking insulin and I just couldn't figure out how to balance that.

SuperDuper - glad to hear I am not the only member of the over active liver club! LOL My threshold is the same as yours, if I can treat a low that isn't below 60 I am okay, but once I hit that magic number I seem to get the rebound high. With my Dexcom I tend to be able to catch it before it gets to low, but some day are like yesterday where the dang thing was off by about 100 points and I never got a low alarm even though it was set to 90 and my BS was at 27!

-Honey

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12/3/08 2:27 P

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I just remembered a thing my doctor told me when I was exercising 1½-2 hours 3-4 times per week...
Perhaps you could try to drink energy-drinks a little through out the workout? I was to drink ½litre of home made energy drink (water, juice, some salt and dextrosol-powder)
This should help the liver, and to keep it from needing to produce so much glycogen since sugar is added to the blood stream with even intervals... Just a thought...

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Hello Honey,
I too have a liver with a mind of its own! I can walk/jog for 45 minutes with no problem (as long as I ate enough first), but if I try for over 60 minutes things start to get all haywire on me and I'll spend the next 4 or so hours trying to get back down to where I was before I tried to be healthy and get some exercise. emoticon
As for the rebound from a really low low, I think if I get lower than 40 I start to have big rebound issues, regardless of what else I do. I know if I can catch a low at 60 and if I do my part to treat in a controlled fashion, I can get out of that without too much problem, but I know the lower I go the worse it gets. Understandably so, but its still annoying. I think my liver gets panic-y and likes to overtreat everything, I don't know why it can't tell that its overdoing it, if its supposed to be so smart and all!
Somedays I am not very appreciative of my liver's "help", it seems to me it would be easier if I didn't have some organ operating under it's own rules without any coordination on my part. I guess my liver does other useful things so I'm glad I have one, but I for one would appreciate a warning signal when its going to start "fixing" things and then I could back off and see what happens before rushing in to fix it myself.

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12/3/08 1:47 P

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Hi Honey
My name is Elin, I am 18 years old.

It doesn't really sound very nice to get that much rebound highs. I do get them if my BS is low enough (they are really bad if the BS is low in the morning!)

I am really sensitive towards low BS so I sometimes feel it already at 4.0 mmol/l (it is not considered low until it is under 3.5 mmol/l). So no, I have never been that low without noticing, unless I am asleep but that doesn't count right? : )

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12/3/08 10:33 A

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Hi Corey

It probably wasn't clear from my post, but the low blood sugars and high were very far in time from each other. The high number was about 1 hour after the bad low. It is not uncommon for me to get a rebound high after a very low bloodsugar.

If your blood sugar gets low enough your body tries to correct it by releasing glycogen from the liver. That glycogen release is a big dump of sugar into your blood stream and so when my bloodsugar gets really low, I do end up with a rebound high.

I don't know if you are a runner or not but I had the same problem when I ran long distances. I was okay running for about 1 hour or so, but once I got much past that, my bloodsugar would shoot through the roof. My Dr. told me that was because my body was releasing glycogen to fuel the exercise.

Others may not have such an active liver, and may not have these issues, but it is a factor in my case.

-Honey

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12/2/08 4:38 P

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Hello,
Maybe your meter needs to be tested to make sure it is okay. You may need to buy another. Just a thought from the top of my head. Those are some pretty mean spikes.

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Just had to share with you all 'cause I know you will understand. I am TRYING like crazy to lose weight, so today I decided to get on the elliptical for 25 minutes before going to get my hair cut. I finished at 10:30am and my appointment was at 11:00 so I quickly showered, got dressed and ran out of here with out testing (last test was 156 at 7:40 am). I was sitting there with the color in my hair and feeling weird so I tested - and my BS was 27. I figured, this can't be right so I tested again while drinking some glucose, and it was 14! I figured it had to be wrong because I was conscious so after some glucose it read 34. Then it came up to 125 and now it is close to 400. Geez. I never really even felt that low or in danger of passing out or anything. Anyone else ever get a low that low and not even really feel it?????

-Honey

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