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10/12/10 11:36 A

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50 miles to me is un freaking believable. Congratulations! You are amazing.

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10/12/10 10:29 A

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Great job again. I am giggling inside about the turn around at mile 25. At mile 25 on Sunday a turn around sign would have made me jump off the bridge I was on. Before reading your blogs just seemed like wow. Now after running 25 miles it has a whole new meaning.
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10/11/10 2:08 P

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You are a machine and have definitely earned yourself a break from ultras for awhile. emoticon

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10/11/10 1:12 P

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When training for my first 50 miler of this year, I did several 30 mile runs with the longest being 35. Typically I did the long one on Saturday, and would follow it up with a mid distance (15-20) on Sunday. However last year for my first ultra ever (a 100k), i never crossed 30 miles in training once. Yet I did MANY big b2b weekends.

Last year I never recuperated from that run and didn't race again till this year.

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10/11/10 12:51 P

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Thanks for the advice.... I run marathons ( 5th is next weekend) I would want to try an utra sometime. You are amazing! For training do you ever do a run that is close to the 50 miler, or just two back to back long runs like you said one 30-20 on Sat and Sun....?

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10/11/10 11:16 A

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Thanks everyone!

For those of you thinking of doing an ultra I give this piece of advice.

If you want you can keep your marathon training plan, but the difference is going to be on the weekends. Here you will do a back to back long runs. If you want to do a 50 miler you should definitely have at least a weekend of a 30-20 beforehand, and a 25-15 weekend should be fairly common.

Plus, to allow for recuperation you typically want to only run 5 days a week. Surround your b2b big runs with rest.



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10/11/10 10:46 A

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way to go! I know what you mean about feeling run down... sometimes it just takes one to many races.... Happy Running!

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10/11/10 10:27 A

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Way to go. I have been contemplating an ultra for a while now. Rest up!

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10/11/10 9:52 A

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Fantastic! You have been cranking out ultras like there is no tomorrow! I am amazed. And that was like an ultra ultra since you went an extra 3 miles! That would drive the OCD in me CRAZY!

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10/11/10 8:54 A

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You are BEAST!

Thank goodness for technology! I'd have been done in; I have a "dumb" phone--I can call and text....lol

Enjoy a much deserved REST!

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10/11/10 7:14 A

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Man, that's awesome--Congratulations!

I am currently training for my 3rd marathon and every once in a while the thoughts of trying an ultra creep into my head. I promptly push those thoughts back out. What a grueling distance!

I am stunned that the race organizers painted markings on the leaves and did not mark the trees. I know how frustrating it must have been to go off course and add 3 unnecessary miles to your legs. To be honest, I'm not sure I could have recovered from that. It must have been quite a psychological blow!

Congrats again. It's a huge accomplishment!

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10/11/10 6:43 A

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Amazing...
I am a beginning runner and to me, this sounds like an inconceivable task.

Have a good break from ultras 'cause marathons are ONLY 26.2 miles. Hope you are feeling less tired today!!!

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10/11/10 4:05 A

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Awesome job...even with the detour. I am training to run a 44 mile ultra in April.

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10/11/10 1:15 A

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I want to start this off by saying that this is my last ultra of this year. This year brought a lot of ups and downs for a beginning ultra runner, however I can tell that my body is wearing down from this as is the mind. Anyways, I signed up for this race on a whim this week and here is the report:

This trail was along the Ice Age Trail starting near GreenBush Wi. Though it had its moments of roughness, the majority of it was runnable. It was nowhere near the toughness of Superior, and though more technical than DWD, it lack the total elevation. However, hands down, it was the poorest marked course I have ever been on. Period. Plus the aide stations were pretty far apart for a 50.

The day ended up being gorgeous. Got to 75 here in WI, which is very unusual, and was a dry heat with sunny skies. Fall colors were in full bloom and I made sure at times to soak the whole experience in. We got going in the dark at 6am and 10 miles into the run I knew that this was going to be a long day. My legs just didn't have it.

Looking at the ground was a sea of leaves. As beautiful as this was, it was also problematic. See the course director (in the VERY FEW places they marked the course) did it with paint on the ground instead of a ribbon from a tree like most races do. This made a very complicated Ice Age trail with it's crossing even more so.

I made it to mile 20 without any real issues. Hands down, I have the nutrition aspect of an ultra mastered. Goo's were going down no problem and with just the right amount of water intake. My head was fine throughout the race and never did I feel as if i was going to 'bonk'.

On the turnaround at mile 25 i decided it was time to employing run / jog methods. Good as the head and lungs were, the legs were just spent. I wasn't worried aobut time, just finishing, so this helped me to enjoy the scenery quite a bit.

Maybe a bit too much though as about mile 37 I noticed that the aide station was missing. I kept going and finally decided to get out my android and figure out where i was (techonology!!).

DARN! Off course. And bad. 1.5 miles out of the way and had to go back for 3 total. This was very disheartening as it was my first time ever being off course for a significant period. Plus i had run this section very strong so once i got back on track i definitely had a negative state of mind.

After pouting for a bit, at mile 46 I decided to turn on the jets. I crank out the last 4 miles at about 10:30's (booking on trails) and finished strong in 11hr 08min. My extra 3 mile excursion had costed me about 36-39 minutes but those are the breaks.

What did i find out today?

I am really tired.

My times are REALLY slipping.

I don't care that my times are slipping.

I am really tired. ;-)

Maybe if there is a half marathon or less race in the next few months I will participate, but I am shutting down the ultras for awhile. thanks for reading!

Edited by: JOEKHUL at: 10/11/2010 (01:17)
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