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10/24/11 10:30 A

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My 2 cats are outdoor cats so I haven't got them declawed!

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10/11/11 1:04 P

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When you have a leather couch it is more practical to have them declawed. My Tiki is just barley getting to the age where we can and I cant wait. Nothings worse than waking up with a claw in your face. (Happens every morning) Roxy is declawed and it is nice to have powder puffs when you are playing with her.

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We had two cats until Hanson died almost 1 month ago (urinary tract infection)...but neither he or his sister Hilary were declawed. After we found them five years ago, I considered declawing until I researched it. Terribly cruel!

We do clip claws and have lots of scratching stuff around.

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I don't believe in de-clawing. I heard that some cats have permanent arthritis from this procedure. Very painful. Also psychologically they feel they can't defend themselves. What if by accident your cat gets loose. can't defend himself against wild life in your area, a death sentence for sure.

Cats need a scratching post taller than themselves on two legs so they can stretch their entire body as they scratch. Some really like scratching sizzle which my 6 feet cat trees have. If you can have two that is best. One in the family room where you all hang out so the cat feels part of the family and one in a quit place and if possible in front of a window and if you hang a bird feeder or hummingbird feeder you will have a happy cat that won't touch your furniture. My cats are 9 years and my furniture is fine.

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In the UK (where I am) it's illegal. It's not like removing a nail, it's like cutting a finger off at a knuckle!

I hadn't even heard of this procedure until recently (probably due to the fact it's illegal here), and when i heard 'declawing' I did automatically think 'wow, that's great' but a bit of research and I was left in tears. I couldn't do this to a cat.

Not trying to be judgey, I think that it's often portayed as a minor thing.

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My cats are both declawed. I would never have cats that were not declawed. While I was waiting for them to get up to size to be big enough, I got many many scratches (not to mention my furniture and the carpet). Piglet used to climb the curtains and my back. 11 years after Piglet was declawed, I still have scars on my back and shoulders from where she would run at me, climb up my back and sit on my shoulder. Ouch. I had both cats declawed when I had them spayed. 1 week of hurting for a lifetime of love with me. Not so bad. They are both indoor cats.

I don't understand why declawing my cats can be called cruelty, but spaying them is not. Both hurt. The cat didn't choose either.

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My two older cats are declawed...front paws only. The three siblings are not and don't plan on getting them done. My five are indoor cats.

I did some research and found that declawing a cat is consider a "cruelty" to cats. I'm not sure what the law is where you live, but declawing is prohibited. There are few vets who will do it and if they do, it's expensive.

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My two cats Rudy and BOB, My walking partener both have their claws.We live out in the country and they love going out so it would be a little dangerous with out them. I have never declawed any of my cats and wont . I try to teach them NOT to scratch things but its difficult.They Hate spray bottles so if they scratch you can give em a spray if you catch them in the act. emoticon



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No,my cats have their claws,but am thinking on declawing my in side cat,sammie.He is scratching my wall facings,I am going to have to have fixed.
But what can I say I love him.

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7/25/11 3:58 P

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I have trouble clipping my "kids," too. Some of them, I can just pin down and do it, but others are impossible. I just have the vet's office do it when I take them in for other things. I get charged, but that's OK.

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I have a Pedipaws too. Both the cats and the dogs hate it. The one cat I can manage to manually clip his nails and he doesn't mind if I file them either which you wouldn't think a cat would let you file his nails but he does so I'm happy. The rest of them I can't even touch their feet. They freak out.

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My first cat I had declawed and then the cats we got while he was in house were also declawed. I started to feel really bad about it. Our 2 current little girls still have their claws. I use that gimmick Pedipaws to keep the claws manageable. It worked much better after I removed the safety cover. It wouldn't work on a dog from what I could tell but it works pretty good on cats, and it doesn't hurt them. They both have one toe they don't like done, other than that they are usually fairly calm.

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Wow, Cedarbark, I didn't know that some vets literally guillotine all the toes at once. I know our vet very specifically said that he did each toe separately and as non-invasively as possible (we love our vet), but to think that an accepted method of declawing would be as described - I think those vets should have their licenses revoked. That just sounds unusually cruel and painful :-(

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7/24/11 4:19 P

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My two boys I have now are not declawed but my first cat I had her fixed and declawed at the same time. I wish I would have gotten at least PITA declawed because he gets stuck on things all the times and I am always afraid he is going to get hurt because he doesn't know how to free himself. I wouldn't do it now because they are not kittens and I really don't want to make them go through any surgeries that aren't absolutely necessary. My Boris has been through enough surgeries in his young life I would not do that to him.

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(Off-topic.)

Hey, Cedarbark! I see by your ticker that you are at your goal weight. Mad 'grats! :)

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No my cats are not de-clawed.


Most de-clawing is done by just slicing down on the paws, over the "offending" parts, and a lot of things a cat really needs goes away with that action. Now if I had a vet who did each claw individually, and I really needed this action done, I'd think about it. But at this point, no.


And, with 3 of the 5, I had to agree to no de-clawing. Still, I'd rather not anyway.

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I surprisingly found out that there is such a thing as 'cat scratch fever'. They told me that as soon as I went to the emergency room at the hospital.

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Yikes! So sorry to hear that. I've had my share of scratches, especially when I play with them and they roll on their backs, grab my arm with their forepaws and playfully rake my arm with their hindpaws. Never even thought of infections so I guess I'm glad I never was! :-)

Can't imagine cats without rear claws (lol- with some of the floors in my home they need something to help them brake after sprinting :-) ), but I do understand.

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I had my cat Ditto for sixteen years. I had his front claws declawed because I was in an apartment and it was a rule. He has since passed, February 2011. Last fall, he was getting feeble and was jumping up on my couch to be with me. He lost his grip and grabbed onto my lower leg and scratched me with his back claws, bringing quite a lot of blood. Making a long story short, I ended up with an infection. After two rounds of anti-biotics at home that didn't work, I ended up in the hospital. I was in there for four days on intravenous anti-biotics. It then took several months for it to completely heal.

I now have two little kittens and I have had them totally declawed, both front and back. I can't afford to go through that again, going to the hospital and the long recovery period. When they are inside cats, I see nothing wrong with this.
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Over 28 years and 11 cats, we've had them all declawed, because a) living in a relatively busy suburban area our cats wouldn't survive as long as they have outdoors with claws than indoors without, and b) despite their love for us and their understanding that scratching mommy and daddy is bad, it happens anyway (and they also never had the same loving feelings for the furniture).

I hate the idea of it from the medical/physical perspective, and the newer technologies (something about laser and dstroying the nail roots/beds/whatever they're called) seems less harsh and/or painful. But we have, do, and will continue to declaw them. We have them declawed very young (when they're spayed/neutered) and none of them have ever complained to us about not having them :-)

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We had a cat declawed b/c he was evil w/ his claws. We have 2 cats now that pretty much do not abuse their claws. If I were you I would have the front ones removed especially if she is evil w/ them. They do not learn how to use them properly ever. The one cat does scratch up the one screen door we have but thats about it. They have a scratching thing they can use if they desire but mostly they use the log which is real wood.

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No. When we adopted a cat several years ago the adoption place, through PetSmart, made you sign an agreement not to declaw because it's considered cruel. After looking into it I was horrified and won't ever do that to a cat. Unfortunately, mine has done a number on my furniture and a couple spots on the carpet. She's smart enough to do it when I'm not home, so it's hard to break the behavior.

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I also recently discovered throws you can get for your furniture (to protect it from pets.) The website is (I think) : http://www.cryptonfabric.com . If that's not the correct URL, you can do a web search for "Crypton Fabrics." They are supposed to be impervious to spills and stains, and it might be worth it to see if they are scratch proof, too.

They are pricey, but I'm thinking of getting a couple.

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Our family cats are declawed, though now it's mostly because Mom doesn't like the claws. Dad would be okay with them, actually, we almost didn't declaw this last bunch, but one of the other ones we already had was declawed, so that wouldn't have been very fair.

Also means when I move out with this one, we have to find another declawed baby, because I don't have the heart to do that to them.

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I am so glad to hear that. I really do believe it is the most horrible thing. As for my furniture being clawed. I have a spray bottle I use on my cats when they try to scratch or get on counters. It works, I just shake the bottle and I immediately have everyone's attention.

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We had Baxter declawed and unfortunately that seems to be when his naughty problems started. So I think if I ever get another cat, I will try and go without having them declawed.

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There are many ways to stop them from clawing.. of course it is best not to buy really expensive furniture, lol


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Frankly, I'm really glad to hear that.

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Thanks for all of your input! Purrsy's sweet little paws will remain as they are. When my husband rants about the couch, I will let him read some of your descriptions of declawing. Your responses have strengthened the resolve of this very non-confrontational person to "Just Say No!"

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No, I would never declaw a cat. It is cruel and inhumane. The stories are awful, I couldn't fathom putting my babies through that.

CLCCOOL I would be interested in hearing more about this product you are speaking of.

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None of mine are-- I got them all as kittens and none were declawed and I can not bring myself to do it.

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I sometimes WISH my BOO! was declawed but I would NEVER do it! He's not into scratching the furniture but as with MELA'S Smokey, he tends to like rugs. I have a rug in my "office" that he's allowed to scratch because whatever the weave is, it doesn't pull out. He knows to only scratch there and on his scratching post. He tried scratching on the foyer rug but after I sprayed it with cat repellent a few times he stopped. I use it on the furniture from time to time just to reinforce the fact that he's not to scratch it.

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NO!! I had my old black tom Simon declawed by a vet cause my wife wanted it - he got an infection which then led to him getting very sick including a fungal infection on his nose and a lung infection ( I am certain thats why he had health problems later on in life). Its BARBARIC how they do it even the so-called humane way isn't and his was done by them cutting upon his paws and using a nail clipper to cut off his toe!! (Poor bastard).None of my cats have been declawed since then usually they use the post (my old red tabby tom Malcom NEVER clawed the furniture ).

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My first cat was a furniture scratcher so I looked into having him declawed. After hearing how it was done I just couldn't put him through it. He got over the scratching after he redecorated my living room furniture. My current kitty isn't a scratcher. She only had to be shown a couple of times where to scratch and she was fine. She does like scratching wood so she has a special table she scratches and a post.

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I've never had a cat declawed. I have considered it for one but the vet thought she was too old for a good outcome.

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My boys sometimes scratch holes in the bag liners of my box. I just think of it as their way of telling me to change the bag. If it were to get too out of control I would simply go without the bag and deal with having to clean the box itself.

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Diana, what you were told about declawing is true.

I will NEVER declaw a cat. When I was a kid, our cats were never declawed.

My cats are more important than furniture.

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Yes, my Bella is declawed and was when I got her 4 years ago this Oct. She is 9, and she is constantly clawing on my kitchen chairs.......but no cares, she doesn't hurt a thing! She is my little Black Beauty!!

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The only cat I've ever had that was declawed was one of my Siamese, Gilbert, whom I had gotten from someone else. We had to take him outside on a leash, and cats don't like that. I, personally, would never have a cat declawed. My Stormy doesn't go outside, but if something should happen and she DID get out, I would not want to think of her without protection. If she scratches something in the house, then that's just part and parcel of owning a cat. emoticon

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I got Isabella and Midnite from the animal shelter and they were already declawed. When my son brought home Tiger I wasn't originally planning to declaw him but he started clawing up the bags in the litter box so I went ahead and had him declawed when I had him fixed. All my cats stay indoors and now Tiger is content with being in the house. The other cats are starting to accept him. Tiger is young but I'm not sure how old he is. I would guess he is around 11 months old now. I already had 2 female cats so it is tough getting used to calling him a boy.

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I inherited a cat that was declawed and he was quite able to climb a tree. In fact, he used to terrorize the neighbor's dog and then shinny up the tree to escape.

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Personally, I don't believe in declawing a cat. I've been able to train mine to use the scratching post only and even though one tries to keep the cats inside, if they DO get out, they have no means of protection or climbing a tree when in danger. I would rather spend money on a new couch than have them defenseless. Just my opinion.

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Mela my oldest boy is named Smokey too. Then came Shadow and bringing up the rear is Eglantine.
My boy has grown to know what an unnecessary idea of declawing is and he refuses to declaw his "Eggie". He is 19 and I am proud for him to consider her before himself.

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All of my house cats have been declawed. When I had them spayed/neutered it was done at the same time. They seemed to suffer more from being fixed than being declawed. I agree that if you are going to do it, do it while they are young.



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7/10/11 8:33 P

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I would never declaw my cat... Smokey doesn't go after the furniture although he loves the rugs in the house... When he is kneading my arm, I lovingly threaten him that I am going to take his nails away, but he knows I am kidding.......

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I would NEVER do this to my cats! Just as I wouldn't remove a dogs "voice box" to keep it from barking! It is cruel, I'm sorry, but it is.
There is a new product out that is supposed to calm cats & keep them from marking & scratching, I might try that, though.

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No, my cats are *not* de-clawed; they don't scratch anything, except for their stuff.
There has never been an incident. (They have over 5 towers.)

My husband adopted 2 & I adopted 2; ironically, from the same place (before we even knew each other existed) & almost "to the day" of each other.
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Anyway, I digress; the no kill shelter, that we adopted them from, does *not* allow de-clawing and their microchips are reported as it's *not* allowed.
We were told that if we tried to do it ... they would be taken away. (I'd die.)

It was explained to us that it's like cutting off their fingers top knuckle.
Like if you were to look at your fingers top knuckle, it'd have to be cut off there, for your fingernails to not grow back.

I don't know if that's true, or not; but, I've never thought about de-clawing them.
Even *before* the shelter told me I couldn't. So, I guess it doesn't matter.

I can't imagine them not being able to climb stuff and us missing out on watching them being the magnificent climbing carnivores they are.

(Edited to add: they are indoor cats. They don't even try to get out.)

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My first cat was de-clawed, but when we got Izzy and BeBop we decided not to. They're pretty good about not clawing the furniture, but do occasionally which is why we haven't gotten new furniture. They make special clear tape you can put on furniture. That might help.

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My cats are both inside cats. When we travel, I keep harnesses on them, so that they can't make a break for it when someone gets out of the car. They enjoy being in our travel trailor. They spend the day on the couch looking out the windows.

I try to remember to trim Purrsy's claws every couple of days to keep the damage to a minimum. She's the sweetest cat ever - never tries to claw, hiss, etc. She just finds it amusing to shred stuff.

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When I was younger my cats were declawed. But that was only because I didn't know any better. My cats have a specific chair that for some reason I have not been able to keep them away from. And when I got my leather couches I was very nervous about it. But I kept my eyes on them and if they even looked like they were eyeing the couches I shooshed them away. They also have a cat tower with thick wood poles they scratch at. So for me, it was just being consistent...kinda like teaching them how to use the box. I also trim their little claws twice a month. And because they are trimmed it makes them feel the NEED to scratch less.

Good luck and remember if you are going to decaw at all.....do it when they are young. Just like you would circumcise your son at birth, don't wait or it is much more painful for them.

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I've done it too. My current cat is declawed in the front. But I wouldn't do it again unless I had to. Next time I will attempt to train first and only declaw if the training doesn't work. And I would never declaw a cat that goes outside the house.

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we had two cats declawed.. the first one was brain damaged.. a 2 yr old little boy threw her out the window of a two story apnt when she was only 2 wks old.. she barely lived.

anyways, she would do something like drink water, and she would keep it up till she was to bloated to drink.. when she had to pee, she peed even if she was walking.. and when she would claw furniture.. she would not stop for a LONG LONG time.. so we ended up getting her front paws declawed. It was not something we could 'train' her not to do.

The second one.. was damaged during birth.. the mommy cat was new and when tije was half out of her mommy, the momma cat kept going in circles slamming tijes baby head against the wall... we kept hearing thump.. thump.. finally found the mommy and my daughter action grabbed tije and finished pulling her out.. sigh..

anyways, tije is.. well the only way i know to explain it.. is bipolar. if thats posisble in cats, one min she is sweet as pie, cuddly, purring, almost asleep, the next min.. hissing and clawing your face out.

even the vet was stunned at her erratic behavior and agreed, declawing the front paws is something needed before she blinds someone, especially since i was babysitting todlers at the time. neither cat suffered from declawing, neither was hampered in any way.

it is not something i say doing for the sake of doing.. some vets wont do it at all unless there is a very very good reason.. the vet who did tije normally would not do it, saying he felt it was cruel.. but after keeping tije overnight and watching her.. he decided for our safety.. it needed done, that or put her down.. and that wasnt an option.. she is like 10 yrs old now.. still has erratic temper.. but is slowly calming down.. she will still haul off and try to claw you and she hits you so hard she leaves small bruises!



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I had Cat Boy declawed (front only) when he was fixed - he's four years old now. I didn't have Purrsy, who is a year old, declawed, though. Purrsy has sharpened her claws on my leather living room furniture and my new quilt. I bought her a scratching pad and put it right in front of the hole to her hideout. She hops OVER it! Cat Boy, who HAS no front claws, sharpens his paws several times a day.

I have even tried showing Purrsy how to use the scratching pad by putting her paws on the pad and moving them back and forth. She's nice about it - waits until I stop and then hops off it.

I really don't want to declaw her, but she even shredded my sheets!

Just wondering what everyone else thinks about it.

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