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Great! Thanks. It's so nice to have other people's input...considering how many things are out there. Maybe I'll become a professional 'seeker' and get paid to buy everything up and read it. lol
I would LOVE that!
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We use SpellingCity.com, but there are not many free games on the site anymore. Check it out. My girls like the word unscramble game. We actually bought the premium membership this year, but they have been updating the games on their site and we like the older ones more than the newer ones. The new ones look like they would be more fun with the cat and mouse theme, but are actually more cumbersome. I will not purchase again for this reason and they also increased the fee.

You can also enter your words into this game, but the list can only have 7 words and the words can only be 8 letters in length. The game uses all capital letters, too, which I didn't like when they were younger, but don't mind as much now.
https://www.playfg.com/fullscreen/word_s
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Does anyone know of a free online spelling course/ game/ practice?

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Our Mavis Beacon version is from 2009 and works on our old Mac. It has lessons and lots of games for accuracy, speed, and rhythm. I do not know what the newer versions would be like. My girls, 12 and 10, like it, but they like any chance to use the computer, even typing up reports. We don't have a game system or cable to watch television. We do check out movie dvds from the library and have a few old games that still work on our old computer.

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Tried the power typing one, may use it til I can buy something. DH informed me that finances are tight and I won't be able to buy the curriculum til next month. So back to the internet and the Library to pull what I can to make up for what I don't have yet. Oh boy!

Is the Mavis Beacon one fun? Does it have games? My kids want games and fun ways to learn on the computer or "it's boring", lol.

I can't thank you ladies enough for all of the help you have given me and questions you have answered! I'm so glad I found this group!

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We like Mavis Beacon, too!



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I like Mavis Beacon. Type that it on a search. A billion show up to choose from.
Make sure you get one compatible with the computer it will be used on.

We had Captain Keyboard which was pretty fun but kept getting jammed up in our computer, so haven't been able to use it.

JUST now found this. It's fun!
https://www.powertyping.com/

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I posted on FB yesterday that I would no longer be available for 'favors' during work hours. From now on my work hours are the same as DH's and I am not available. Morning til noon I am not available unless it is an emergency. My kids, my husband, my family and home, come first. I may be at home but I am working and it is important work. Got a lot of likes a few 'you go girl' comments and some shares from my homeschool peeps.

We took the Math U See assessment, and DD is below where I thought she would be. I kept a cheery face and told her, well, now we know where to start, but inside I was crying, I thought I took the lowest assessment of where she would be! But, Not giving up, we can still do this! And it means homeschooling is that much more important b/c in public school they would put her in 'remedial' classes.

Thank you for sharing that story, it makes me feel better about wanting to do this drop off program next year. They teach all kinds of science and computer and art programs, things I could not teach the kids, one of the classes is how to make your own drone! Sounds amazing, I'm sure it is pricey, but will be worth it. And it is 4 hours, so I don't have to worry about doing anything else for school that day. Though honestly, what on Earth am I going to do for 4 hours!?

Right now we are going to read Hinds Feet In High Places I think, because they are going to be having a lot of changes and I heard that book is good for helping with fear of changes. Don't know when I'll be able to get it, budget is tight and we have so many other curriculum to get!... Wonder if the Library has it... I bet the library has the Anne of Green Gables too. So much stuff to do! I'll have to start making list and prioritizing them emoticon

I'm wondering about computer skills. Do you know of a typing program (other than the annoying free BBC one) that would work for kids ages 9 and 10? I learned to type about their age and really want them to know how to before they are teens. Plus we are thinking about getting ODD a computer for her birthday (would be the only present she gets!) and I want to teach her how to use it.
Hope ya'll are doing well!


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Karri,
I am really proud of you.
I love the way you are really working through the ideas and discussing them with people.
With your DD, I agree with your husband. I would spend a lot of time with her. Kids can learn a WHOLE LOT just having DISCUSSIONS with their parents. It doesn't have to be all bookwork.

I'm shocked by how many things my kids know that I did not even teach them. It kind of freaks me out....like REALLY? Their life is not completely in MY hands????
I DON'T have to actually provide every single bit of information for them?


How FREEING!!!!

I remember when my oldest son joined the Marines. My husband was nervous, but I found it freeing! I felt like, FINALLY! My son can go on and learn new things and experience new experiences....and "I" don't have to be IN CHARGE!!!!!! Woohoo! ANNNNDDD. doubly exciting was that ...if he didn't listen or follow through on the rules...."I" didn't have to discipline him!!!! The MARINES did!!!! Woohoo!

Here's something you can do with your DD. Read the Anne of Green Gables books. There are 8 in the series. If you've never watched the movies yet... DON'T. The books HAVE to be read FIRST! I absolutely INSIST.
The author is L.M. Montgomery and she is an EXCELLENT writer. She seems to have had ample life experience. She is great at creating characters and knowing personality styles.
But she ALSO seems to have had an amazing education. She often refers to books, poems, authors, historical figures....and THOSE can be a spring board for you and your daughters to learn from. When you read about them, take the time to look it up!
L.M.Montgomery is also VERY DESCRIPTIVE with nature, which would make a great SCIENCE study. She's always describing trees and flowers. ALWAYS! Maybe THAT would grab your daughter's interest.

The first reason I suggested this book, lol, is because the setting is in CANADA. (My excitement just carried me away. wink.)

Oh! speaking about books, did you know there's a Unit Study for Little House on the Prairie books called The Prairie Primer? Lots of ideas in it.

Okay, I'd better go before I think of something else to say!
P.S. You are getting me in the mood to shop for curriculum!!!!! I don't think I'll even be able to stop after I'm done educating all of my kids!!!! :)
LOVE the U.P.S. guy. chuckle.
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Thank you both so very much!

I've decided that I'll let my DD decided if we will do Math-U-See or not. I'll explain to her how it works, let her watch the example video and take the placement test see what she think of it. I hope she likes it because I don't want to keep plugging along at what we are doing when it's not working!

We are changing up a few other things too. Oldest DD has just given up. It's her inner perfectionist, if I can't get it perfect, why try at all? I understand this all too well. So I will be her study buddy. She will sit beside me and I will walk her through how to read and study textbooks and how to find the answers to the problems (not something you had to do in CC). She can read for comprehension very well, when it is something she likes. Learning about the provinces of Canada is not something she likes very much, but it is something we should learn about. I never learned about it in school. I think it is really neat that she is learning it. So, she'll sit at her desk only when doing something she doesn't need my hands on help for, the rest will be right beside me. Youngest DD may not like that (not getting to sit beside me as much), but she doesn't need the help, she learns so well I've often joked that a rock could be the teacher and she would still learn!

My friend C who homeschools was thinking I needed to get tougher with her (oldest DD), make her toe the line and dress-right-dress (military term, we were both in the service). And I started agreeing with her, because it makes sense. I'm so glad I talked it over with DH first! He said just the opposite and after hearing his reasoning, I agree. I need to be more hands on, more positive, more praise and more loving and understanding. Her sister gets "it", you know, the whole school thing. She's brilliant and loves to learn. Oldest DD is every bit as smart, but it takes her longer to catch on, she has to study harder, she has ADHD so she has to put more effort into it. So hearing her sister get praised and her not get as praised as often... we think she thinks she is not as loved. It breaks my heart to even think it, let alone write it. But after listening to the way DH explained it, I think he is right. That has got to change. So, I'm making the small changes, not expecting miracles but hoping for one, and praying that I'm doing the right thing. My friend C says public school is the option if she is not learning from me and in a way I agree with her. If DD can't learn from me, what choice do I have? But DH says because of the way DD is, school is not an option, she would see it as we don't love her, no matter how we explained our reasoning to her. I agree. So we are going to keep homeschooling and try a softer, more gentle and loving approach with her. It will take a lot more hands on from me, at a stage when I'm thinking I should be able to be more hands off, but it will be worth every minute if it actually works.

We are also going to be getting into a homeschool group. There is a new one that started up this last year that was so strict it scared me away honestly. But after their first bit, they have relaxed some. I'm going to message them and say look, I have anxiety, I can't be your in charge kinda person, but I can do background work and help out. They do local stuff,, which has been hard to find. The tween group I was really looking into, all in Atlanta. I have anxiety, I can't drive in Atlanta traffic, so I need local stuff. We are also looking into the library and will be doing what we can with them.

I've got all my curriculum figured out that I want to buy, math depending on if DD likes it or not. But I'm going to have to spread it out over the next few paychecks. Finances are kinda tight right now, but it's not like anything is expensive. In the meanwhile, I've got some workbooks for grammar and can do library for science.

As far as our day and fitting it all in... I think some things, like science will be every few days and some things like math will be every day. I am setting up boundaries with friends and family, I'm no longer available during the day to do anything. I have a full time job, yes that job is at home, with my kids, but it is a full time job nonetheless. Absolutely nothing scheduled before noon! Not even grocery shopping, which I prefer to do in the morning. I'm going to be helping Aunt G with her house some (she could be on an episode of hoarders!!) and I've got to set up the boundaries now that it can only happen when we are done with school.

I'm struggling, I really am. But I'm thinking that all of this is helping and that the plan we've set in place will work. I just can't lose my patience with oldest DD. I think that we are going to be off to a better start this week.

~ Karri
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Here's a little more on the subject of fitting it all in.

You want to know how my perfect day went yesterday— not so perfect. I went for my morning walk and when I returned the girls were already working on math. Great, but I totally forgot about Bible which we usually do first. Math went okay, but my YD went to the cupboard and got out some star stickers to keep her motivated. She does Horizons math and each lesson is divided into sections. She called me over after each section, 4-8 problems, and had me check to see how she was doing. She put a star over each section if she got them all right. She drew a smily face if we had to correct something in the section. This took longer than I wanted, but she kept at it, and she had time to read before lunch. My OD finished math and started a new weather prediction chart on the computer for science. So each child only finished two subjects, before lunch or so I thought . Today my OD realized she had made the chart, but forgot to find the weather prediction for yesterday which is no longer available as it is a new day. Oh well.

After lunch we did history together, and then I sent my OD daughter to play some spelling games on the computer, but really my YD should have done that but I forgot the schedule so my YD continued reading the book she started before lunch. My older daughter read after she completed spelling. My husband, who works at home, needed me after that. We never completed our writing since lessons for YD require my assistance and I didn't have OD lesson ready for her to continue because I was in the middle of assessing how she was coming along with it when my husband showed up.

When the girls got in bed my YD said, "Aren't we going to read our Bible and Keys* today?" So we did, but at 10:00pm.

I guess what I'm trying to share is that no matter how well you plan, life happens and you go on. From what you all are saying, I'm sure it is not just my family. I don't think I overplanned this day, but trying to get my exercise in is making me not on top of things. I really need to go back to writing our goal list on the wall dry erase board so the girls can remind me when I'm not following it. In the past they would check subjects off and be free.

Do you plan out your day ahead of time or as you go? I like to get up and see what happens, but find we don't get all that much done when I take that approach.

*Keys for Kids is an online daily devotional with a key verse and a scripture reading.
http://www.keysforkids.org/For-Kids/Keys
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It is available online or can come to you in the mail. We get it by mail so we don't have to sit at the computer to use it. We do it together so we can have a discussion. Not sure I love it, but the girls like finding and reading the verses. With this and Awana they are learning a lot.



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Sorry, No I have NOT used Rod and Staff. Can't help you with that one.

I also prefer to wait to teach grammar until they are older. It's more important for me to READ to them and have THEM tell ME stories. Then it's kind of fun to show them how all these stories have certain things in common and point out the various grammar things.

One of my best ideas, 'I' think, lol, is taking my favorite books that have been so used and are falling apart...Like my 40 year old Little House on the Prairie books that I borrowed from a big sister and kept so long she didn't want them back anymore. lol....Take these books and across the top of the page write "Circle all the nouns" or "Put a square around all the verbs" or "Draw a triangle around all the articles".
In this way, you don't have to buy ANY curriculum, you don't have to CREATE your own curriculum, you don't have to DOWNload and PRINT your own, you don't have to get online!!!!
Obviously, you can take it further, and do much, much MORE with these pages. THEN, you can either SAVE the pages for their Assessment Portfolio Book or just throw them away after you've gone over it with them.
It's really rather fun. Kind of like a word-find or cross-word puzzle. And you're ALWAYS going to end up with more OLD books to use up in this way and you don't have to feel guilty tossing a favorite book.

I really advise you to buy Math-U-See for your daughter who struggles to understand math. I think it works best if you begin with it in the early grades because they have a specific teaching thing with using manipulatives (really cool blocks that MAJORLY help you visualize the numbers.) They also use cool FRACTION manipulatives, when she's ready for that.
It would be a FANTASTIC INVESTMENT to purchase the blocks, no matter what. Buy the wooden storage boxes that come separately. Very important.
If YOU hate math, I advise YOU getting Math-U-See!
I had very low self-esteem when it came to math and it was the depression of my life. I even failed a quarter in 9th grade. Well, the reason I failed was because the TEACHERS failed to spend time with me one on one. They didn't even BOTHER to figure out where my trouble spots were. It wasn't until I was teaching 2nd grade to my first child, that I figured out what I was missing! SECOND GRADE!!!!! Do you mean to tell me that I suffered for...what, 30 YEARS? over a second grade skill????
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!

Anyway, these MathUSee blocks can be used for FUN and they are majorly helpful.

If you order Math-U-See online, you might even get the books within two days. Once I even got my order the NEXT day. It was sooo exciting! I began home schooling BEFORE I had internet, so I would have to search the catalog, mail out my order...wait three days before THEY even GOT the order, then they had to process it, and then get it in the mail. So I used to wait 3 or more WEEKS! LOL, oh boy. things have improved in that area.
I just ordered Math on a Thursday night and received it on Saturday morning.
I don't know if I have a distributor particularly close to me or what, but I LOVE getting it that soon.
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Yes, that's how my daughter got started being so overly careful. People would check her work and throw the dish back into the sink. So now she lives in FEAR of not doing things right. It's ridiculous.
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My state does not require testing. So I don't have to bother.
I've always thought of testing as a way to stress the kids out.

Now when they see a test paper that comes with some of our kits, we just view them as a 'game' to see how many we can get right. Or they use them with open text books.
My goal is not college, though.
My goal is to retain what they read about. Sometimes I think enjoying what you read is an easier way than knowing you are reading this just because you are going to be tested for it.
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One kind of 'test' that is fun. We bought a poster board and created a BOARD GAME. It actually looks like Tarzan going through the jungle.like on PlayStation? We used ideas from various games...used Scrabble tiles to earn throughout the game and if you collected them in order, it spelled out a PHRASE. Part of your high score was, not just reaching the end of the game, but also to earn all the tiles. Sometimes that took teamwork...that way the younger kids had the help of the older kids.
Anyway, they had to draw a card that asked a question they might have had that week, or month, or year. It can be math facts, history facts, grammar skills, or trivia from movies.
That would be another great thing to do for ART!
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To help get through a LONNNNNG week, we decided to use Wednesdays as a Game day. Sometimes we forget and the kids have already done some paper work before I even get my day started. But as long as you don't have any catching up to do, Game Days in the middle of the week are great stress busters.


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Thank you so much Susan!

I do have a question about Rod and Staff Grammar before I jump in and buy it - because what I buy now I'm stuck with till we finish it! Have you done it and what do you think? The reviews said it was simple and easily gone through quickly if you know the subject matter and can breeze through it if you need to but it also spends plenty of time on each topic so if you come to something you don't know, you can spend time on it. Sounds too good to be true, but that is exactly what I need! I'm buying 4th grade for my 5th grader and hoping we can breeze through most of it till we come to what she needs to learn and then move on to 5th grade and do the same. Any thoughts? Reason I'm buying 4th grade: CC didn't really teach much. I was teaching extras for a while because of how little it taught, but the last year I didn't do much in the way of extras. I should have continued, but CC says over and over all the extra you need is math, that it covers everything else. But she didn't retain much, as it was just not her style of learning and she could not 'get' the information in the time given.

Math is the bane of my existence right now! She (oldest DD) knows the work (mostly) we are in review (we've found a few things that we had missed), but she is really slow, then rushes, then goes slow, so she gets about half of it wrong, usually by one number.

I wish mine took longer putting up dishes! Mine will put up dirty dishes, especially glasses and then DH gets so frustrated when he runs across a dirty dish. I'm thinking about buying all new glasses because the cheapy ones I bought are impossible to clean and constantly look dirty no matter how much you clean them! So frustrating!

I only have the two BG (Beautiful Girl AKA Moody Judy, but I'd never tell her that!) is 10 1/2 and still has some growing up to do. She's clinging to her childhood as tightly as she can! She is the one I but heads with the most, but I guess that is getting into tween years *sigh*. Then Angel, she's turning 9 this month. She is the most easy going kid I've ever met, she has her moments, but for the most part she just rolls with it. She gets nervous doing new things. I want to take her to story time at the library, we haven't made it the last two times, and she's all anxious about going, though I know she'll love it. Her learning style is however you teach. Seriously, she loves to learn and loves to please and get praise. BG, I know her learning style is not Classical Conversations. She's an avid reader, when it's what she wants to read. At a time when most people are telling their tweens, here is your work go learn. I'm going to be having to teach her how to learn this way and what to do and holding her hand through it at first at least.

Thank you for the reading ideas! When they get a little older I want to start reading the classics. When I was their ages I was reading them on my own, The Hobbit, Moby Dick, Black Beauty, Sense and Sensibility. Mainly because I had it in my head that I wanted to read classics for some reason.

We have tests to take with Social Studies, but I think it is a good idea, to get them over their fear of test taking. Plus we have to take the tests every 3 years to see where they are at, not that the tests matter, but they are state mandated. BG did great on hers. And Angel takes hers this year. We take them over the internet so that I can be right there with them and at least be a cheerleader for when they get overly worried or upset.

Much more to ask, but will wait as that is a lot I just wrote, you are right, there is always so much to say!

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Sigh. okay. So.
Math? can take incredibly long. My youngest daughter who is 10 takes forever FORRRRRRRREEEEEEVVVVVVEEER doing kitchen chores AND doing MATH. She's so freaked about not doing her chores right, that she analyzes EVERY dish....verrrry slowly.
It throws the ENTIRE DAY OFF.
And math? Same thing.

I have two daughters who are on morning kitchen chores. And a son and daughter on supper chores. The morning chores actually OVERLAP the evening chores because of her!

Example of what I deal with. Yesterday, she put a dish back in the sink because it brushed up against her ARM PIT.
?????
THEN...she put one back in the sink because it bumped against the OUTSIDE OF THE CABINET as she was putting it away!!!!!
SCREAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMM! lol
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I'm going to solve that tomorrow by being her partner in the kitchen from now on. Because, SHE can't take it anymore (no child should be that freaked about doing a good job.) and WE can't take it anymore. lol.

Okay, Sometimes we are late sleepers, sometimes the kids actually get up BEFORE me and get started on school before they even eat breakfast.
After everyone has eaten and before they go in different directions, we aim to do Devotions and then read a book aloud together. This year we are on Lord of the Rings.
But previously we focused on American Lit...like Tom Sawyer, Huckleberry Finn, Little Women, Seven Alone, and even Of Plymouth Plantation (very cool, but very dry lol This is the actual journal of William Bradford, so worth reading ONCE.)
Then I send the breakfast chore girls in to start THAT process and when they are done they get to work on their own school.

Math U See comes with a dvd, a teacher book, a student workbook and a test book.
I'm really mostly just grading now, not teaching. I help as they need it.

Btw, my school kids are son "Lifeguard" 17, daughter 'Drama Girl" 15, son (no nickname yet) 14, daughter Spunky 12, and daughter Kindness 10 1/2.

I have another son who is trying to finish some Math so he can graduate. He's already 19. (we start school at 6 - 6 1/2, so we get a later start and later finish for the first 4 kids anyway. ) We have an unusual circumstance in our family that required the older children to help with income, and it set their school hours off a bit.) Not ideal, not the plan, but neither was it a plan to have my husband off work for 5 years due to a bad back!
The kids that are in school now, should be much better off than the first 4. Phew!

Generally, all my kids do is read their text, answer questions or write out what they've learned. And they continue until the book is finished. Science, highschool history, geography etc.
But we also encourage reading personal accounts about different wars. I find a lot of books for sale at our library and bring them home. My boys like the war books!
My husband is really good with Politics and analyzing things, so he is able to give them some wisdom in that area.

I can't stress enough how great JANE AUSTIN books are for highschool. Each of the books teach life lessons without really meaning to.
Sense and Sensibility teaches us how to control our emotions and outward behavior and the results of both succeeding in that and failing in that.
Pride and Prejudice teaches us about proper behavior, too. There are several personalities and you can see the good and bad in each one.
Jane, trusts EVERYBODY and shouldn't.
Elizabeth, enjoys analyizing everyone's personality...and sometimes fails.
Mary, is overly preachy, prudish,
Kitty, is a follower
Lydia is wild, childish, flirty and uncontrollable
The mother is just like Lydia
And the father....accepts things as they are for the sake of peace....and the family suffers for it.

Those two are the best.
Then there is Persuasion. Good lessons on humility and vanity there.
Mansfield Park, (save this one for much older kids, because a lady leaves her husband and runs off with another man etc.
None of these books has 'dirty' talk or scenes in them. Which is a great relief! lol

I'm mentioning these, for character education specifically, (and they are AWESOME READS, considering they were written in the early 1800's). But remember that while you are reading them you ALSO get a geography lesson on England etc.
Pre-plan and skim through it, find locations on the map for the students and THEN read the books.

Little Women is also great for character building. Wait for at least Middle School for it.


I've been all over the place with teaching and buying things and still haven't found QUITE the thing. Like I said, if I had the money, oooh boy! I would have fun ordering and searching out things better. If you have a question about a certain item, you can always ask if I've tried it, and I'll tell you what I think.

Another thing...we do not take tests in anything but Math. I don't see the point.
My oldest son's first test was his driver's exam. lol
His NEXT test was his Marine entrance exam and he scored an 86. (which he was told was excellent! Okay. I'll take it.) His weakness was a higher math course that we had not taught. Everything else seemed to be things his dad taught him with hands-on projects at home! So cool for us, since we are not highly academic college folks.

okay, enough gabbing. sorry! But there's always so much to say.

One more piece of advice:
Keep notes or a journal on YOUR home education journey. You may be able to turn it into a book one day. SERIOUSLY. Not kidding.












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KOHLRABIGIRL Thanks for telling me what your day looks like. I know I will have to crack down to get more in, but we don't have to get it all in one day.

SUSANSKI thanks for all of your suggestions and ideas!!

MRS_PRINCESS_07 Thanks for the recommendation! I'm going to go with Beautiful Feet! I've read a lot of reviews and love the reading list it includes!

Thank you guys so much! I think I'm set for curriculum for this year, and for math for next year (math u see). Now to figure out how to get the time management in! Youngest DD is no problem and finishes early every day. Oldest DD drags her feet and even when we are only doing 4 simple subjects (math, social studies, spelling, penmanship) it takes her all day! I don't know what to do. She has ADHD... I'll save that for another post!

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For history, depending on the ages, I recommend:

Beautiful Feet and Notgrass History

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Good Afternoon!

These are our subjects this year:

Arts, mainly musical theatre
Bible
English (Reading, Spelling, Vocabulary, Writing)
Fitness
History
Math
Science

We do Bible, math, reading, and writing everyday. Based on interest my oldest daughter (OD) does science everyday, and based on need my youngest daughter (YD) does spelling everyday. We fit in history, science for my YD, spelling for my OD, and the other components of English (literature and vocabulary) consistently but not daily. Arts and Fitness occur at least biweekly but I don't really think of them as school. They just fit into our evening and weekend schedule and we do them.

Our day looks like this today:
Bible
Math
Science (OD)
Reading
English
spelling (YD)
writing (BOTH)
History

The other subjects that we will not do today are in an ordered list:

science (YD) / spelling (OD)
literature
vocabulary

If for some reason we don't get to our optional history lesson today because our other subjects take longer or other parts of life take precedent, I won't stress. History stays at the top of the list for tomorrow and the other subjects stay on the list in their order for the coming days. Some days we do two optional subjects when the other lessons are light.

Usually math is the time stealer. I would say it definitely takes us at least an hour a day. As for timing lessons or giving homework, I would have to say we haven't done that. Homeschooling for us is very flexible. I don't like to rush my children and want them to feel successful. Stopping in the middle of a lesson seems unnecessary and distracting especially if they are working hard. For the years before high school, if they are not done with a subject at the school year's end, we finish it when starting school back up in the fall. The aim is mastery so defining what should be done in each grade seems a bit artificial to me in the younger years.

By the way, I also haven't given my children grades until they are doing "high school" work that will go on a transcript. So far I've found that when one of my children is ready for algebra and biology, it's time for me to start grading and preparing a transcript. That's what has worked for us.

My YD loves to watercolor, so I'll have to check out those free art lessons, too! Musical theatre takes up so much of our time in the evening and weekends. The only art I've fit in this year has been when our history lesson suggests an activity, like designing a kimono.




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Going for the Beautiful Feet then, early American history!

I've heard that Math U See is really great and my oldest has a hard time with math. She was bullied in PS and told she was too stupid to do math and still, four years later, has a hard time shaking that from her head. I'll look into it for sure. I know I want to do it for older years, because math is so not my thing! DH will help her, he is a math wiz, but I'll need all the help I can get! For now gonna stick with the Rod and Staff we just bought, but will look at Math U See for next year for sure!

I'll check out scrapbook.com, that sounds neat! Gotta fill our days with something til I can buy our new curriculum (should be end of the week) and then they come in (should be another week waiting!).

Thank you so much for all of the ideas! I wish I could do them all! I've discussed what we are going to be doing with the kiddos, and they are on board but a little wary since I've told them it will take longer than CC did.

I do have another question for you guys. How long do you spend on math and other subjects? I know my kiddos are slow on math so I give them more time, but at this rate we won't be able to add any other subjects because they are taking so long on the ones we have!!!! I'm thinking about setting up a time limit and anything not accomplished in that time becomes homework to be done after "official" school time. I don't want to be too strict, but like I said at this this rate we won't be able to add the rest of our curriculum! I understand why Social Studies is taking so long, it is a different format, and she is getting used to it and it will take some time to adjust, but she should be adjusted by the time the new curriculum gets here, in my opinion.

Do you set time limits? Or do you just go til they are done? Or are my kids stretching it out because I let them?


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Yes, Beautiful Feet book is worth buying. Go for it.

If any of your children struggle with math, try Math-U-See. LOVE LOVE LOVE it.

For art, I JUST discovered the site scrapbook.com . On this site you will find allllllllllll kinds of FREEEEEEEEEEE classes. My kids and I are doing the Watercolor classes right now. Highly recommend this, especially to do WHILE you are trying to think of OTHER curriculum. The classes are only about 25 minutes long and are a GREAT way to add something FUN in the middle of the day.

Ever hear of the dvd Biology 101? That was pretty cheap.... ($40??). Teacher has a sense of humor as he's describing all kinds of cool things. It includes a disc that you can insert into your computer and print out quizzes. I like it. Can't decide what grade level it is, it's actually interesting for younger AND older. My 10th grade daughter is using it.

We also like the books " Flying Creatures of the 5th Day". Those are quite worth it. There's a science book for each Creation Day, I believe. We don't own these, just borrowed them from my older sister. I NEED to buy them though.



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Thank you for all the suggestions! I will check them all out! I've been doing a lot of research on my own as well. Stopping our usual curriculum mid-year is kinda throwing me off. I mean, do I go ahead and buy the next year up, or the year we are on? Since I don't want to confuse my kiddos, I'm buying the year they are on (if there is a grade difference) and if we don't finish it til end of next fall semester, oh well, we'll just do it for that long!

I don't really think we are behind in grammar, just not as knowledgable as I would have liked her to have been by this age. Mainly this is because the way I was teaching was not her way of learning, so she didn't really absorb the knowledge. I think a good grammar book that is flexible and will let us move at our own pace will let us go past what she already knows and learn what she didn't catch on to. I love the englishgrammar101.com site! I'll use it till we find what book we want to use.

Have you heard of Beautiful Feet Books? I found this on accident while looking for a history curriculum. The book is A Child's First Book of American History and it has a whole list of books you can buy to read along with it, that I will of course get from the Library emoticon I've read a few good reviews on it, but need to do more research before I buy it. I like the idea of reading a book about each of the states.

I'm doing Apologia for science, botany because that is what youngest DD picked (oldest didn't care). Rod and Staff for penmanship, social studies and math. I'm thinking I'll do A Child's First Book of American History if the research is shows that it is good, plus lots of books from the library. I'm still wavering on grammar and will have to do more research. I've got art covered with a book from Rod and Staff, a book on masterpieces and a friend that comes over and teaches art class that we will probably do once a month (painting). I'm getting some classical poem books so we can do poetry maybe once a week or so.... Am I forgetting anything? CC covered "everything" so I didn't really have to worry about anything other than math. I'm going to wait on a foreign language and computer skills because this is going to be a lot to start doing! CC an hour tops and you were done.

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Loved your post. Thank you.

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Hello!

I'm glad my hectic week of tech is over and I can concentrate on school.

Crouchingflea-First off, may I ask, what makes you think you are behind? I don't use a grammar program regularly until a child has turned 13. This spring my daughter will turn 13, so next fall she will start grammar. Then she will do Jensen's Grammar. I consider it part of English so she will not work on it every day, but will work on it until it is done. It usually takes a year and a half to three years for mastery. My three children who went on to college were not English majors, but they did or are doing well overall. Not having grammar lessons early on doesn't seem to have had a negative effect on them.

All of my children have used EducationWorld's Animals A to Z for an introduction to grammar.
http://www.educationworld.com/a_lesson/a
rchives/animalsAtoZ.shtml
There is an answer key online and the free worksheets can be printed. We would also read a library book about the animal or do an animal identification online if a book wasn't available. This of course had nothing to do with grammar, but helped them to start using the library for research. One of my daughters also drew pictures of the animals and put them in a notebook. This is the only formal, if you could call it that, grammar lessons they get early on. My two daughters still at home did this together last year. One was 8 and the other was 11. The site says it is for 2nd-4th graders, but I had them do it together when my younger daughter started reading well.

EducationWorld also has a more advanced series called Every-Day Edits.
http://www.educationworld.com/a_lesson/a
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I've never used these, so I cannot say if every topic is appropriate. I'm sure you could pick and choose. You could start one of these programs right now while you decide on something else.

Another thing to keep in mind is that your children might be learning more grammar than you think while they are reading or doing other subjects. Mine gain some understanding of parts of speech through using Vocabulary from Classical Roots starting in 4th grade. There is light mention of grammar concepts in our first writing program, Writing with Ease and a bit more depth in Writing with Skill. I also find that the study of Latin helps so much with English grammar although we don't start on that until 13 as well.

For history we use Story of the World. A lot of other homeschoolers I know use Mystery of History. I probably would have done so myself if it would have been available when I started. I started with Story of the World and it worked well enough so I stuck with it.

I know two families at my church that use Easy-Peasy All-in-One Homeschool.
https://allinonehomeschool.com/
I don't think I would like my children to use the computer as much as this seems to require, but for me it could be a good resource to enrich what I am already doing in many subjects. Check it out. You may like it or at least spot a few things you could add to what you finally decide on doing.

That's all the suggestions I have for now.

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I kind of struggle with that, too. If I had some extra cash it would make things a whole lot easier! Then I could have more freedom to try new things.

I'm actually considering A Beka. I heard it's really strict, too. But let's think a minute. Is our goal to reach high school, get the kids graduated? Well! OUR job might stop there, but GUESS what?
OUR Children have their whole lives ahead of them. THEY are going to need to feel confident about their education. They are going to be sharing with people what THEY did in school 'way back then' someday.
Are THEY going to home school their OWN children? If so, OUR job NOW needs to be focusing on preparation for that.
I've never seen the A Beka phonics program, but maybe we should get that...even if we only use it for the Parents as a reference or a guide. Hmmm. I don't know.
I've got The Blue Back Speller, written and used by Noah Webster. That's pretty cool. In the footnotes they even teach how long of a pause a period, comma, semi-colon is supposed to held for! That would be great for someone who plans to speak aloud in front of groups!


I have found englishgrammar101.com very helpful. It gives a short grammar lesson, then about 10 questions to answer. It then grades you with a percentage correct. I typed out the titles of the lessons and have the kids write down their scores. They do not have to take the first score as their final score...I let them re-take it until they get good at it.
This is great as a stand-alone, or to reinforce what you've taught elsewhere.

For History, I've liked the Mystery of History...I don't own it, so can't use it the way it is recommended. One thing I like is that the author shows what is happening (who lived) at the same time, in different parts of the world. (This one is Christian based, so it's cool to see who lived where during the events of the Bible.)

I do not like Bob Jones (history) books for the younger grades. Too dry. But once you hit 7th grade I find that my kids seem to like them. They feel organized. I don't like how they have a United States History book for 8th grade, then another just two grades later. So I've actually been tempted to only do the highschool books, and do something else for all the other grades.

I feel like I will know what I'm doing AFTER all my kids are finished with school. sigh.

There is a spiral bound book called "Simply Stated!" by Katie Campbell and Sidney Douglass. All this is, is a list of STORY books whose setting is within certain states. So the you or the kids can look at the list, go to the library, pick up some books, and read...which gives the reader an idea of what that state is like.
I take it a step further and HAND WRITE the titles of MORE books that I've come across under that state. So this helps teach history as well.

I hope MORE people share! I'd like to hear their answers, too!

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So we have been doing CC for 2 1/2 years now, and I've finally figured out this past school year that it is just not how oldest DD learns, she's not doing well. Time for a plan B. As much as I loved CC, it is lacking in the grammar department, so I need a book to help catch her up, I was thinking starting on a 4th grade text and trying to get he caught up (she's in 5th) But I have no idea where to start! None! I don't even have an inkling on what books are good. Any suggestions? I read that Abeka was too, structured and I would not be able to push through it, would Rod and Staff be a good one? My friend suggested Easy Grammar, but I can't find the book she had. I'm just at a loss.

So I need something to take place of the History as well.... I don't know where to start! Maybe we'll start with American history and then move on to European... But I have no idea. I'd like something that tells it in stories if possible? Something that makes the history come alive I love history and would really like to get really into it, but I'm at a complete loss at what to get into. I want a unbiased (if that is possible) take on history. But something we can really get into. I love history, and want to pass that love on to my kiddos.

Thanks for any suggestions!!! I dislike having to change mid year, but better to change what is not working than to stubbornly push on (as I was doing, lol)!! I already changed social studies and math and penmanship, so why not change the whole thing!! LOL

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