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8/4/11 1:45 P

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I know this topic is a little old, but I have three kids with dyslexia so I had to respond. I recommend watching the videos on this site: http://www.dys-add.com/index.html to learn more about the signs of dyslexia.

My 10 & 11 year olds both really struggled with learning to read. Despite trying different reading programs and even waiting to see if they were just late bloomers, we finally realized that something else was wrong. That's when we began researching dyslexia. Both of them have progressed beautifully and now they both enjoying reading independently. They can now read all of the books that their friends are reading which makes them very happy. We are still working on the Barton program for dyslexia to help them with their struggles (spelling and writing continue to be painful).

My 7 year old is dyslexic as well and is currently struggling with reading. I know it will come in time having watched the process with the other two. And she's still excited about learning to read.

My biggest recommendation is to keep the love of books and stories alive. I have always read aloud to my kids and will continue. My husband and I also prayerfully made the decision to give our two middle children ipods (the older models because the new models are too distracting with all the apps and games). We found that audio books really helped keep our kids love of books alive when they were struggling with reading. The ipods made it easier for them to take books with them while waiting after piano lessons and such. Now they are both capable of reading any book they like, but audio books will continue to be very important especially for my son.


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7/26/11 2:47 P

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Our story sounds similar. When my son was in Kindergarten (public school) he recieved speech therapy, but he was not performing well.

He couldn't read, didn't know his alphabet order and couldn't count to 20. At his IEP, they told me he was NOT ready for 1st grade. Then they proceeded to tell us that it was up to us whether he should be promoted or not, but they recommended putting him in 1st. They were going to give him someone to "shadow" him for 30 extra minutes a week (in addition to his 1 hour of speech).

Our adoption was final by this time, so we chose to homeschool him. I researched till I was blue in the face, and finally discovered what his learning disability is. I arranged for testing and they confirmed it: audio processing disorder, both receptive and expressive. He's also dyslexic but I haven't had that confirmed by the professionals yet.

We are using All About Spelling, and it is the most thorough phonics/spelling program I've seen (with the exception of Spell to Write and Read...but it's very complicated).

His reading is improving as we work through this program. He'll get it eventually but the process is slow right now! We've homeschooled him since 1st grade and he will begin 3rd grade this fall. Right now, he's on about a 1st grade reading level. I plan to get an extra tutor to help him this fall.

If you wish to use a tutor, Orton-Gillingham tutor's are supposed to be good for kids who are struggling in reading.

Wilson is another program developed for struggling readers.

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I have 2 children with reading issues. The older child's problems were solved with vision therapy, but our younger child is 14 and still struggles. We've used various curricula and therapies and learning strategies. We waitied until he was in 5th grade and still reading on the 1st grade level to get help from Dianne Craft because we listened to others....oh, he's a boy-they are slower to catch on....wait for him to mature.....it'll come one day-boom and he'll take off, etc, etc, etc.

GET HELP NOW for your precious child if your gut tells you something isn't right!!!!!!

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7/9/11 9:28 A

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We had the same issues... Our oldest is dyslexic. I suspected before we ever started K that she was, as I had 3 siblings that struggled in school and of those 3 I know that 2 had multiple signs of dyslexia. You can find signs of dyslexia at www.bartonreading.com/pdf/Dys%20warn
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I will also encourage you to have him evaluated if you can afford to. Costs of a certified evaluator in my area was $1800 per child, and, tbh, I do not have that type of money to give one person for an hour of their time.

In the mean time You may find that the pressure to read/spell can make him feel a bit self conscious, so until you have an understanding of what is wrong be focused on doing some tasks orally... You read off a passage and ask him what he heard or have him draw summary pictures. If writing is a strain, challenge him with answering math questions by having him talk through how he would solve the problem or using manipulatives...

Most of all remember that you pulled him from public school because their method was not working so you don't have to continue to copy it. You can tailor your school to his needs and work on his challenges at his pace.

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7/8/11 12:12 P

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I taught my first two children to read and thought the third would be no problem, but it was pure struggle.
I would strongly recommend having him tested by the National Institute for Learning Disablilities. (NILD) which is an organization that deals with LOTS of learning disabilities.

We used them for 1 1/2 years for my DD and she not only learned to read, but she excelled.

www.dyslexiaconsultants.com/National
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Did you know that 34% of ALL child have difficulty learning to read? Promoting him to the 1st grade happened most likely because, going with the odds, a significant number of his Kindergarten class would have had to be held back. Schools just can't deal with that sort of thing, so they have pull out special reading help instead, where kids with problems are passed along but pulled from the regular classroom for special reading instruction. The concept sounds good, but the stigma of that special reading help can be terrible. My husband just KNEW he was stupid by the time he was a 3rd grader and still hardly reading at all, but this perception of himself was in direct odds with his genius level IQ.

My 3rd child (starting 3rd grade this month) is still only reading on a mid to late 1st grade level (I hope he'll be up to starting Green Eggs and Ham later this summer, but I'm not completely confident that it'll go well). He is very much like my husband, and while we haven't had him tested yet we suspect that he is severely dyslexic with a high IQ. The difference homeschool has made for this kid over public school his father had? My son knows he doesn't read as well as kids his age, and the he doesn't learn things as easily as others do, but he doesn't think he is stupid. His self image isn't tied to his reading struggles in any way. Even when he has an extra bad reading day, it is never "I'm stupid" but rather it's "I hate reading". A subtle, but important, distinction.

Anyway, all that to say good for you for pulling him out. I am convinced that removing a struggling learner from a classroom environment is the best thing that can be done for them as a person.

First, your son had major health issues. Please try to consider all of Kindergarten as a wash, because of them. Thus, it is very understandable that he would be behind.

Second, a child struggling to learn to read does not typically benefit much from sight word practice. They need PHONICS, and organized, systematic, multi-sensory, rule and patterned based phonics. Honestly, the vast majority of words that other programs call "sight words" are completely readable with phonics anyway, so if you're going to have to memorize something it might as well be the phonics.

The gold standard for teaching struggling learners to read is programs based on the work of Dr. Orton and Ms. Gillingham from the first half of the 20th Century, now known simply as the "Orton-Gillingham method" or "O-G". There are a number of programs available to individuals that are based on the O-G methods, among which are The Madsen Method, Spell to Write and Read, Barton, Reading Horizons, All About Spelling, and more.

Of these I use, strongly prefer, and recommend All About Spelling. Why? Because it is written to be open-and-go; no dvds to watch, books to read, or seminars to attend before starting. It was designed to be used in a one-on-one situation (i.e. homeschool), and can be adapted to be used with more kids, rather than the other way around. It is 90+% reusable, with very few consumable things; with 5 kids that's a big plus for me. It also includes built in individualized review, meaning you spend time reviewing things that your child has trouble with and don't spend time reviewing things he has already mastered. Lastly, all 7 books will take a kid from spelling cat to high school and above words, for a total cost of less than $300 (including shipping). Barton, by comparison, costs over $3000 for the same level of learning. My 2nd child (possibly mildly dyslexic, reads well but was spelling years below grade level) is now starting the 7th grade and has done All About Spelling levels 1 through 4 and is more than half way through level 5. My 3rd child (possibly severely dyslexic with auditory processing disorder, behind in every subject area) is starting the 3rd grade and is moving quickly through level 1 (I wanted him to be reading well on a 1st grade level before I started with him, but now I regret the delay because I see how working through All About Spelling is helping his reading).

The drawback of All About Spelling is that it IS about spelling. Still, if a kid can SPELL a word he can READ the word, right? The creator of All About Spelling has written beautiful (hardbound!) readers that go with the first two or three books too. Also, she is in the process of making an All About Reading program too, that focuses on reading. The pre level-1 is already out, with level 1 due next month (it will use the readers that are already available for All About Spelling level 1).

The pre level-1 is possibly too low, but maybe not. How is your son's phonemic awareness? Phonemic awareness is the ability to distinguish the individual sounds within language. How well can he tell you the first sound of words you say (not written)? If you say, "What's the first sound you hear in the word cat?" can he tell you easily? How about harder words like stop, clock, exit, and trip? How about the last sound in words? How about the middle sounds? If you ask him to clap every time you said a word with the OH sound (long o), and then you read (one at a time) road, rip, hope, dome, bought, boat, would he be able to get them all right? How well does he rhyme? Does he understand syllables and is he able to tell you how many syllables a word has up to 3 or 4?

Problems with phonemic awareness is a big factor in difficulty learning to read. Take a look at the free little e-books you can request here www.all-about-spelling.com/activity-
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, specifically the "Zig Zag Zebra in the Kitchen" one. That one is all about phonemic awareness, and if you work through that book with your son (it's pretty short, you can do it in less than a week with just minutes a day) and he has trouble with any of it then I think he would benefit from All About Reading pre level-1. I am just a week or two away from finishing this level with my 6 year old (started in March) and it has been very beneficial for him. Before we started we were doing a different K level learn-to-read program and he was doing so poorly that I told my husband that I thought he would have as many difficulties as his brother. I no longer think that, because his phonemic awareness skills are well in hand, thanks to this program.

Anyway, I love All About Spelling and All About Reading, and no matter how commercial-y this sounds I don't get any kick-backs or anything from them. Check them out and decide for yourself. They offer lots of samples online. This is the website www.allaboutlearningpress.com/ . The author is very reachable through their forums, www.thechatterbee.com/ , as is a long term online friend of mine, Merry. Merry does work for them, mostly in moderating the forums and answer questions and such, but I know that she used and loved All About Spelling for more than a year (maybe more than two) before she was hired.

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Having had two struggling readers myself, I know how very frustrating it can be. I recieved so much help from Dr. Karen Halinga (thereadingdocinc.com). We found that both of my boys had accommodative and vergence eye disorders even though they both have 20/20 vision. I was really fortunate to be given the name of an eye doctor who was able to do a much more thorough exam to test the small focusing muscles in their eyes. We followed up with several months of vision therapy. So, I would suggest that you check that out first. Make sure that you find an optometrist who tests for eye alignment, binocular vision disorders, as well as visual acuity.
Many curricula tend to lean strongly toward either phonics or whole language. I found that a combination of the two worked best. Dr. Halinga gave us many good ideas. As my boys were learning to read or 'ramping' up to the next level... I ALWAYS read the passage to them first, then had them read it, beginning with sentences, working to paragraphs, then on to pages. They always followed along with their finger at the beginning of the word (our eyes tend to want to scan immediately to the end of the word first). Have him get his mouth ready for the first letter (phonics) while thinking about what you have just read (context/ comprehension). Books that work wonderfully with this method are Pathway Readers.
Having gone through chemo, I'm sure your little guy just needs time to get caught up as well. Children develop skills at different rates. One of the joys of homeschooling is that we can allow our children to learn at their own rate, without the pressure of anyone telling them (or us) what they 'should' be doing. I'll keep you both in our prayers. Hope some of this helps:)

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Hi, I was wondering if anyone else has faced reading dilemmas. My second grader is barely reading on a kindergarten level. I read with him daily, practice sight words with him, and play word games. However, nothing seems to help. When he was in Kindergarten he attended public school, and missed a lot due to chemo. He also has selective mutism and never spoke to the teacher. I started home schooling last year after him being promoted to first grade. I mean how is a child suppose to be successful in the first grade if they are not able to count to 100 or read simple sentences. Reading is such a struggle for him, I am willing to try anything to make it less stressful for my son as well as myself. Any suggestions is greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

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