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11/15/07 10:11 A

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My troupe is mainly tribal, but we like to throw in various other styles to. We're an eclectic bunch! Is anyone else going to the Tribal Dreams seminar in Lincoln this weekend? My troupe will be performing Friday night. We're called Dances with Scissors. Look me up if you're there!!

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11/14/07 11:39 A

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I am learning primarily Eygptian but add in anything else that comes my way. I love the grounded feel of tribal. I crave the flirty feel of caberet.

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9/11/07 8:13 A

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My teacher describes her style as "proto-Tribal Greco-Turkish, bohemian 'manouche' gypsy fusion." So I guess I follow pretty closely in her footsteps! I love the Turkish Rom dancing and hope to learn more about it so that I have a solid foundation to branch out from.

I also like American Tribal Style but I like solo dancing as well as group, and I guess today ATS is pretty much about the tribe.

I've taken only one Arabic-style workshop and found it too tough on my knees with the straight up-and-down style. But it's VERY pretty and I have Lebanese in-laws, so I hope to learn more. I think it's useful to understand all the styles and be able to differentiate them as well as blend them...

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8/31/07 12:03 P

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Re: the Turkish and Armenian conflict -- that's a really good point. I had a brief job at an Armenian restaurant here, and we had the same discussion. The songs I knew as Turkish/Armenian/Persian/Black Sea/Pontic -- we don't quite distinguish them culturally, since regional musical forms often blend across cultural boundaries.

But Turkish bellydance as you see it on Youtube, versus Turkish bellydance when it was actually DONE professionally in clubs is, well -- the two are NOTHING alike. I think Didem is one of the only modern dancers who is still trying to maintain some of what we often call "Classic" Turkish Orientale.

Old-school, or classic Turkish had a distinct look, but it's been abandoned by many modern dancers in favor of a dance that looks more and more like they're copying the Egyptians. Turkish dance instructors have complained that the new dancers aren't even dancing to Turkish music anymore -- everything is remade Egyptian music.

(To see a Turk dancing to Om Kalsoum/Mohamed Abdel Wahab is just the height of weirdness in my book!)

I know a lot of modern Turkish dancers are abandoning the Romany-influenced elements of the dance, for political and social reasons, and I just think that's taken the whole "spark" out of Turkish dance. But too, from buyers and tour leaders who are in country quite a bit, I hear there is hardly any dance scene left, and no jobs to speak of. It's sad :(

Anywho, don't base your understanding of Turkish dance (or Turkished influenced dance) by just what you see on Youtube. That's kind of like basing your understanding of American music on just watching American Idol!

I'm curious -- do you do an Armenian-influenced Lebanese debke? I've seen so many different regional Lebanese debkes, that I'm wondering what an Armenian debke would look like? What kinds of music do you dance to, and do you like old Lebanese music like Fairouz and the Rabhani Bros?

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8/31/07 11:34 A

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From what I've seen of Turkish belly dancing on YouTube, it's pretty different from Armenian belly dancing.

I just... as an Armenian, I have an aversion to calling anything Armenian Turkish because they're similar... The Turks had an Armenian massacre in 1896 where they butchered around 800,000 Armenians, and a genocide in 1915 - 1917 (ish) where over a million Armenians were slaughtered. Turkey still denies this happened and calls it just part of the "war"...

Sorry for bringing politics into this thread, but it's relevant here.

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8/31/07 10:30 A

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Well, Armenian and Turkish music and folk dance are really similar, so you might be more Turkish style than you think! Lebanese style (nowadays) is close to Egyptian pop style. I haven't seen much Lebanese dancing lately except what's on Al Bab Ya Shabab, and those are all such YOUNG girls! I wish I had their energy (and their waistlines!)

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8/29/07 5:19 P

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I'm not sure what my style would be qualified as. My father's family is Armenian Lebanese, so a lot of my belly dance moves are just moves I've learned from family gatherings. I think probably Egytian would be the closest...

I'm learning on my own, from a plethora of DVDs (some Neena and Veena ones, Azar's workout, Jenna's Bellydance Basics and Beyond), but I also like to watch belly dance videos on YouTube to learn and get inspired from. My favorite dancers to watch are Sofia Sarkisyan and Isadora.

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8/20/07 3:44 P

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LOL well if it's bouncy then I'll be a natural:D thanks!

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8/20/07 3:36 P

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Stinkin' fun... and it is what you put into it, but it doesn't take a whole heck of a lot to reap the sweaty benefits!!!

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8/20/07 3:29 P

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Cane (bounce bounce bounce) is (bounce bounce bounce ) SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fun!!!

(bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce!!!!!)

I love Cane -- but you get out of it what you put into it. Can be moderate or fast and furious. The music is usually SO cute!

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8/20/07 3:21 P

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okay... how the heck did I get posted twice... i look like a posting dork here...

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8/20/07 3:12 P

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Soooo canes are what we're doing next season. Are they fun? I need details, people! (please, pretty please?)

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8/20/07 3:09 P

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emoticon me after one Saidi cane class...

emoticon me after tons of Saidi cane
classes

You think I'd get a clue, dump the treadmill/stationary bike and pick up a dang cane!!!

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8/20/07 2:59 P

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emoticon me after one Saidi cane class...

emoticon me after tons of Saidi cane
classes

You think I'd get a clue, dump the treadmill/stationary bike and pick up a dang cane!!!

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8/20/07 2:50 P

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Monibelly, I've always thought a Saidi cane dance would be a GREAT cardio workout! (At least the way we do it in class -- lots of bouncing!)

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8/17/07 5:03 P

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I have three teachers that I take at different times of the year, depending on the needs of my family. Two are definitely more cabaret and folkloric. The other encompasses more the American Bellydance, which uses a little of everything, but no real tribal stuff. I've taken a tribal workshop from Rachel Brice (stinkin' sweet with no diva aspirations at all) and love to watch it, but don't really see that being my style. I think what I love is the folkloric type, earthy dances. I find them very sensual... even tho some of them kick my butt when the rhythms are upbeat. Now that is a cardio workout that leaves the ENTIRE class sweating!!!

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8/17/07 2:25 P

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My current teacher is teaching us Cabaret and Turkish style. Though I think the Tribal style seems cool. I have a dvd, East Coast Tribal that I enjoy.


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AMANDANCES's Photo AMANDANCES Posts: 2,052
8/13/07 10:56 P

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OMG, that prison video is GREAT! That's hysterical!

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8/13/07 10:45 P

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I think that may be one of the videos we are using to figure it out.
The Halloween Hafla in Wenatchee is a lot of fun.I'll try to find the link that takes you there to see pics of past show. If you want to take a look/see at our troupe, go to Sultanadancers.com

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8/13/07 8:36 P

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Our troupe is also a fusion troupe, although the past couple years our director has been stuck on tribal inspired style choreography. I personally love the darker goth style but can't quite carry it off. I've been teaching more of a generalized style, but I do teach mainly children.

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MISSDIANE's Photo MISSDIANE Posts: 319
8/13/07 7:45 P

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Halloween show? Cool!

Have you seen the prison inmates that dance to Thriller?
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8/13/07 7:39 P

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Our troupe is fusion. We do some pieces that are one style, cabaret, tribal, big skirts, and then we have some pieces that have a little of everything. Right now we are learning a tribal fusion piece, and then choreographing to Michael Jackson's Thriller for a halloween show. emoticon

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8/13/07 3:01 P

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I'm a mutt.

Or a melange. I like that word better. :)

I started off learning basic old American Cabaret, and branched into the old-school style of AmCab with floorwork and the 5-part routine, along with what would now be considered "folkloric" based cabaret. I started with George Abdo and Eddie Kochak music, as well as the old Turkish and Armenian folk tunes. For that music, Am Cab is the way to go.

From there I started studying modern Egyptian (since it was the most available) and then also ended up in Suhaila's classes. My private teacher and I both got really interested in Turkish Orientale and Turkish folkloric, so that's been a focus for a while.

My primary area of study now is Egyptian, but I'm trying to find more Turkish instruction and focus on that. But when I perform, 60% of the time it's Egyptian, and 40% of the time it's some type of Am Cab, depending on the music and the venue.

What I teach is straight-up Jamila Salimpour format to beginners, and we work Egyptian technique in the intermediate/advanced classes.

I studied Persian dance for a bit, but haven't been able to study it extensively. It's very lovely though!

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8/13/07 1:19 P

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I've always done Egyptian cabaret style and I love it!!! Every so often we throw in a wee bit of tribal just to keep things interesting and maybe a little Bollywood as well...but only tiny smatterings of those.
I'll have a new instructor next season and I'm so excited! Thia is wonderful, but she has spread herself so thin! She's giving her more experienced students (i.e. they've been dancing for around ten years) the chance to teach. I'm looking forward to the change and so are my troupemates!

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8/13/07 1:16 P

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Bah and the title doesn't like punctuation - there should be a backslash between learning and dancing. Next time I'll use "and or." *eyeroll* emoticon

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8/13/07 1:13 P

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Here's something I'm curious about - what style do the members of the group primarily learn and/or dance?

I started off with Suhalia-style with a local teacher, muscle-based (and KICK BUTT), primarily Middle-Eastern rhythms and a leaning toward solo dancing/cabaret.

The teacher after that (before she suddenly died, rest her soul) was a 180 - Tribal Fusion. Mostly all western music with a little M.E. tossed in and cued fusion moves.

Now I'm taking classes that can be defined as more in-between. Tribal Fusion but can be done solo, lots more upper body work and stomach isolations (which you can't see much under my chunk, but I'm working on it). The music in class is a lot of electronica which I've become addicted to lately.

I'm also part of a loony tribal fusion group, but we choreograph rather than go with cues and improv because we're very new.

Enough about me - what about you?

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