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Excellent show on dog seat belts: Paws for Concern. We have dog safety belts and I didn't feel so smug about using them after watching this show.

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11/23/14 8:59 P

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When we go on long trips, Zoey is in her crate in the back, hubby uses a short bungee cord to fasten it so it doesn't move around. When I take her to the vet etc. I have one of those harnesses that will fasten to the seat belt. Probably like the ones Jules talked about. She's happy either way.

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11/23/14 6:53 P

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I would think that the front seat is the most dangerous place for a dog to be both with and without air bags.
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11/23/14 6:30 P

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my babies sit in front seat next to me.

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11/23/14 4:19 P

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Thanks everyone you've given me plenty to think about.

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11/22/14 5:01 A

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I'd say if you had the room, a crate would be the safest way to travel for your dogs.

I have one of those harness that loop through the seat belt and in essence become the dog equivalent to being in a seat belt.

For short trips I can also use the clip on the harness/collar and clip into the seat belt buckle lead. They can't move very far and are always happy to just sit there with it on.'

I think in any bad accident the focus is to stop the dog from shooting around the car, no matter how well they sit and lay, if enough force is exerted they will become a furry projectile if the car stops violently.

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11/21/14 11:59 P

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Darlene,
if you use the dog crate in the back of the truck all the time you could have someone bolt it to the bed of the truck in 4 places. All it would take is to drill wholes and use screws and bolts with large washers on the inside of the crate. It's not 100% guarantee but a much better bet than relying on the C-clamps.
There are also ways to anchor a short tie-out in the center of the bed of a pick-up and than attach the dog with a harness. If you try this make sure there is a swivel snap on each end so the tie-out does not get entangled easily.
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11/21/14 11:47 P

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My friend had a dog run off after her car had a malfunction and rolled. It took some time for them to find him.

My dogs have also lay down when I am driving or once in a while sat up and looked out the window (not sticking their heads out, cause I don't open the window far enough for that). The problem is if you have to stop suddenly or you hit something or something similar happens. Then the dog is thrown around. I think the crate won't help much if it isn't well secured, but I have heard that sometimes they will protect the dogs. I can't figure out how to secure the crate in my truck. I have a topper on the truck that is attached with C-clamps, but they keep coming loose. I can't fasten the crate securely to them or they will just come off and the topper too. In the case of a vehicle that a crate won't fit in, the only thing that could help is the seat belt. They need to be made in such a way that they will do the job they are suppose to, though.

One of the reports I read said that the strap that hooks to the seat belt needs to be 6 inches or less. That sounds just great, but if you are using the strap that is from the center of the dog's back, it won't reach the seat belt if you have a dog that is larger than a toy. Mine is a mid-sized dog and the strap is around 10" and the seat belt has to be let out so that it will reach. Now I have been wondering how to go about designing something that will work better.



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11/21/14 10:53 P

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There are 2 things to consider using a restraint.
There was an accident yesterday evening in Louisianna with a family of 7 headed to Disney. Everyone that was not in a seatbelt was ejected and died. I imagine if a dog was in the car that would have happened to the pup as well. :(
The other thing that I have seen is where just with a standard accident a dog will bolt out and not stick around.

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11/21/14 10:50 P

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It all depends on the dog. If a dog is sitting quietly riding facing forward than a well-padded harness that is attached to the seat belt can help. For dogs that jump around an twist the harness a plastic crate buckled into the back seat seat belt or behind the back seats (for stations wagons and trucks) might work better. You can even create bumper pads for the inside of a dog crate for dogs that won't chew them. None of these are as safe as seat belts for people and the best we can do is driving defensively.
If you do use a crate don't use a metal/wire crate because that can collapse on the dog.
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We have 2 Chihuahuas and have never used seat belts for them. They are not allowed in the front seat and are also trained to lay down when we begin our travels. They have traveled many, many miles with us when we are camping and as we travel back and forth from MN. to TX. which is a 1560 mile one way trip with side trips. They are really great travelers. Crates too big to put into the back seat of the truck.

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11/21/14 8:58 P

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We've never used doggy seatbelts. Our guys have always been in crates, which I know is not the safest thing, or they ride loose in the van. They are trained right from puppyhood that if the vehicle is moving they have to be lying down. We also teach all of them that there are absolutely NO noses or heads allowed out any open windows.

It makes me chuckle to see how fast everybody hits the floor as the van starts moving.

I hope you find something that will work well for you!!

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11/21/14 4:28 P

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I don't know if they are completely pointless. If I put one on Cassie at least a sudden stop doesn't throw her into the dashboard. I think the main thing to look at is they have only one strap on most to run the human seatbelt through to hold them, so they can actually have their bottom flip forward. If they have 3 connections, one at the top and one on each side, there is more security since it will also hold their bottom. They also won't be twisting around with it. Then the width of the part going up the chest might be better considered.



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Hey there,
Thanks for the heads up on the pointlessness of buying one.

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11/21/14 2:47 P

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Whole Dog Journal also did a review of several of them. Report at:
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A Pet Safety group found all that they tested failed. Maybe we ought to figure out how to make one that will work.



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According to Forbes the best they tested was Sleepypod Clickit. It can't be used in the front seat and has 3 places of connection. I have a one seat pickup, so wouldn't be able to use it. I probably would use a Tuff Rider Roadie if I could find it. I don't know if they tested that. Mostly I have seen that the seat belts are not really considered too safe. I don't have a way to fasten my crate in the truck, either, so I don't know how safe that is.



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When my Husband gets home from deployment we will be making the long road trip to Upper State NY. I'm looking at dog seat belts for our Lab, but am truly overwhelmed with the amount of them there are. Does anyone have one that they absolutely love? Until now he's ridden in the back of the SUV, but with a journey of over 2k miles ahead, I would like him to be more comfortable on the back seat.

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