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1/21/14 7:06 A

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Haha good point Jamer123, I can understand that some people are not dog people, or pet people, but to devalue them and say they have no feelings/emotions is beyond me. Pets in general are theraputic. I have a friend who is 26 and on disability... she has a brain cyst the size of a golf ball in her brain, and she is always on drugs to help deal with the pain but even then she is always in pain. She has 4 pets (including my rabbit which I gave to her) to help her with the pain, and she's told me its made a huge impact in her life to have pets around.
I dont have any pets currently (besides my fiance, haha jk) but i'd love to foster a cat in my apartment, and when I get a house one day i'd like to foster a dog. These animals show us so much love and loyalty, it makes me sad when people devalue what they can bring into our lives.

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1/21/14 12:12 A

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isn't it funny that science has to prove what we as dog owners have known for yrs. Our little ones light up and bounce and bark when we come home. They are very anxious to jump into our laps to be cuddled. They will come and give us a toy to play with them. They are just like little children loving the attention. Harsh training is NOT necessary. Loving, positive training is!!!

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That was an interesting article, Birgit. Thanks for sharing it with us!

I wish it had gone into more specifics regarding the research and its findings though. I don't feel there was enough information provided in the article to convince anyone to change their opinion, who doesn't already know and understand that dogs are smart, loving, and emotional beings.

Anyone with any sense at all knows that you can almost 100% of the time achieve more with a positive but firm approach - whether it be with human or canine. Back a child or a dog into a corner and you are not likely to be happy with the results that come with using that type of force.

Several of my Collies have participated in a number of Canine Cognition / or / Emotion studies over the years, that were done in conjunction with several Canadian as well as American Universities. Some of them I found to be rather useless - oddly those also seemed to be the ones my dogs (and others too) found to be as uninteresting as I did.

There were a couple of the tests that surprised us all with how well or how poorly certain of the animals did in performing the tasks.


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I think people who actually love animals always knew this but those that see them as possessions never will really get it. Maybe it will bring tougher cruelty laws and penalties.

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Of course animals have emotions and feelings! I agree HOUNDLOVER, I hope it reduces animal cruelty and increases awareness

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I think that there have already been changes in a lot of training just because people are knowing that the positive way is so much better and that more people are realizing the feelings dogs have. How anyone could say they don't love and have feelings when you see how many will give their lives for their owners is beyond me. There will always be people who say "it's just a dog" though, unfortunately.



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1/20/14 11:44 A

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The facts are so obvious to us without having seen the science, yet still, the science is helpful. I think there is a lesson for all of us in this that goes beyond dogs: Just because something is not scientifically proven (and many things can never be proven) does not mean it is not true. Maybe it can't be proven, or it is too expensive to prove it, or it is not ethical to design experiments to prove it or there are hugely financial interests that oppose proving it.
I'm thinking about the 10 biggest food companies that make almost all the processed food (including all pet food) and also about the 10 biggest pharmaceutical and chemical companies that have no interest in having any research done that real food can prevent and cure diseases. Nature can't be patented and turned into billions of dollars, only GMO foods, drugs and new chemicals can. We need to keep this in mind whenever we are shopping for groceries and when we are relying on man-made products like medications and pesticides and herbicides to make our lives simpler.
I lost a cat recently, most likely to undiagnosed type 2 diabetes. If this cat had eaten primarily meat and animal products all his life instead of highly processed kibble this may not have happened.
Sorry to take this off-track a little but it helps to make these connections.
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1/20/14 11:42 A

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Thanks for sharing this. I know my furries feel love, sadness, and other emotions.

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How could anyone think that dogs AND cats don't have emotions. Wonderful article and thank you for sharing it.

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1/20/14 7:14 A

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Any good animal lover can tell you that a dog can feel things like love. It's too bad it takes science longer to know that.

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1/20/14 3:56 A

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I tend to agree. Reading this article is great, but honestly it doesn't tell me anything revealing. It will to others though that claim that dogs have no emotions or that they don't love. Anyone who's around dogs enough knows that pets (specifically dogs) are somewhat more emotional than many humans I enteract with on a daily basis.

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Well I'll reiterate what the dog owning masses would say and say again "of course they do"

I too hope it will change peoples idea of what a dog actually feels and thus make training cruelty free, of course there are always some who will not accept this, but for most of us it's just a given.

It amazes me that humans think they are the only animals that can feel love and pain, just because they can articulate clearly.

Thanks Birgit for the link

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I hope the result of this study will change the way that dogs are trained and reduce the incidence of cruely.:

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