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3/16/11 12:48 A

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I thought I'd give an update. Today Blue was walking much better and can stand without his leg collapsing for a while. So I am very happy about that. I am going to try taking him out for a short walk tomorrow.

Of course, now his brother has decided to start limping. I think that is arthritis. He had a broken leg as a puppy, thanks to Blue, and I was told he would probably get arthritis. He has been doing very well for a dog that is now 14.



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3/14/11 10:02 P

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Doggroomer, there is an agency in Aurora that helps people at Christmastime to feed their dogs. They have brought food for mine the last 3 years. They also come and do yard work twice a year -- the major spring and fall clean-up. It is really nice that they do that for disabled as well as seniors and that they will come into Denver to help me. The program they had in Denver to find out what services they have they told me there was nothing for disabled, only for over 65. I can do a lot of things, but trying to do the leaves and stuff in the fall is more than I can handle anymore.

Blue is hopping sometimes on the one leg, but has improved quite a bit. Today I had his brother outside in a run and left Blue loose in the house while I was out.



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3/14/11 12:18 P

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emoticon Glad to hear your dog is doing better today! emoticon Keep checking online, agencies, friends, family, and neighbors about places that help people that are having trouble providing for their pet. There are places out there that will help. Hope this helps. emoticon emoticon

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3/14/11 12:07 P

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I know what it is to be really strapped. Ask your vet if anyone has donated back any medication that would help you out. I know when I lost my Dobie, I donated back all of the current medications that he didn't use. I had one tincture that cost almost 300 dollars. I only used a tiny bit of it. I donated it back to the vet to help other people out. And as far as feeling bad about asking for help, don't. We all would do any thing we could to keep our dogs in good health. Veterinary care is so expensive. As far as dog food, there are some agencies that are helping people with that so they do not have to surrender their dogs. Good luck, I hope this helps. If I find out the name of the agencies that help people, I will let you know. emoticon

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3/14/11 10:56 A

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Thanks for the info everyone. Blue is walking around here somewhat better and coming after me for breakfast. He still has some trouble standing, but is doing better there.

For those who think I can quit paying the medical bills, I am now on Medicare and QMB, so most are paid for now, but paying off the older ones that are on the credit card are what I have trouble with, I cannot quit paying that or I have absolutely NO way to get around or pay for any of the dog food or anything else. I have already checked with the Humane Society here before on if they help the low income people with veterinary care and, as I said before, they do NOT. They sent a friend of mine with my Aussie to a vet who diagnosed congestive heart failure as a cold and sold him a bunch of antibiotics plus billed the regular prices of the other vets. That is what the Humane Society here is like. They adopt out some dogs, but others stand absolutely NO chance with them, whether they are healthy and have great temperaments or not (I know from applying there and I found out I was to take the dogs from intake to the gas chamber and kill them).



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3/14/11 1:43 A

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Fancyqtr, so sorry to hear about your trouble. I know this does not sound like help for your dog right now but consider not paying the medical bills from now on. Also you can talk to someone from Consumer Credit Counseling for free to help you figure out how to deal with the bills and focus on the most important for you, food, clothes and shelter.
Concerning your dog, sometimes if there is some inflammation in the spine and pressure on a disk giving some aspirin could help but also let the dog decide how much it wants to move. A slipped disk requires complete rest for 6-8 weeks. On the other hand if it is arthritis then it could have gotten worse if the dog was not able to exercise for a while and had to be in a crate a lot. Going back to regular easy exercise may help a little. Glucosamine will often help but it will only show improvement after about 6-8 weeks. If you really can't take care of your dog consider contacting a rescue group that can find a home for your dog or might have an emergency fund for people in your situation.
Check out petfinder.com to get a listing of all shelters and rescue groups in your area. I assume from the picture that your dog is an Australian Cattle Dog (Heeler) so you can also look for rescue groups that specialize in this breed.


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3/14/11 1:23 A

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So sorry you're having this issue. We have two German Shepherds. One had a catastrophic back injury (jumped and herniated 2 discs in back) and lost use of rear legs and is incontinent. It is getting very close to time to let him go. I don't know how large your dog is, but using a towel under the rear legs is very helpful for stairs and helping with support if they're weak (especially if they can still have some use so you don't have to support the full weight). They also sell leashes that slip over the dog's rear legs and you can help support the rear legs and then it doesn't get in the way of a male dog urinating.The brand I have is called the Bottoms Up leash. www.bottomsupleash.com/

If you had the money (and trust me, I understand all too well that you don't), I would suggest getting a dog cart. You can get them custom made, and sometimes can find them used for a lot less or even donated. I was never able to afford one for our dog. I couldn't find one under $425.

We did use CareCredit to pay for the vet bills for the initial surgery. It was very reasonable at $67 a month, and we had a year or two to pay it off before there was any interest. (Honestly, we are still paying it, and the interest is bad, but if you only need it for a few hundred, you can probably pay it off in time to avoid that. Our bill was over $2000.)

Here are a few websites listing info about who and how to ask for help and who may provide some monetary assistance to help you care for your dog. I hope you find someone to help you out.

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3/13/11 11:24 P

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First, hang in there! Everyone hits a rough spot every once in a while, it's ok and things will get better. Checking with your church is a great idea, they may very well have resources that can help you out.

At one point, I took my old dog, Jack, to a dog chiropractor to see if there was anything that could be done because he had arthritis in his hips. Maybe ask your vet, or do a web search to see if you can find one near you - they are out there. Just takes a bit of searching and if your vet is open minded, they should be able to accept holistic care. The doggie chiro that we went to didn't charge a whole lot and Jack didn't seem to mind the treatment.

Using ice will help reduce inflammation and the massage will help healing as will the tlc that you are giving him.

Good luck and please let us know how it works out.

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3/13/11 10:36 P

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Hey do not let this get you down. It is good that you care soooo much for your pet. After all they are just as much a part of your family as everyone else. Check out the web site and call around to different vets and see if they know of vets that will work with you on payments to see what is going on with your pet. The best thing you can give him is Love and it sounds like you are really doing that alot. As for help for yourself you can check with your local churches they often help families in need. Maybe there is a friend of a friend that is a vet that could check things out for you as well. Hope this helps. Let us know how things go. emoticon

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3/13/11 10:11 P

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The Humane Society here won't do anything for the dogs other than say you have to turn them over to them so they can kill them. I have asked them about help before. I am on disability and sometimes my friend buys the dog food. I have been putting it on my credit card, and they are raising the minimum due and the interest rates are doubling what they were. I tried writing to the Pet Place one that was mentioned, but that charges to ask a question and I don't even have enough for that.

I hate myself because I am trying my best to give my animals the best care I can, but I don't have any money to help them sometimes. I hate myself because I have to ask for help to pay for little necessities. I hate myself because I am worthless and a burden to my friends and my cousins. My credit card is almost maxed out because I had to use it for medical payments and food (for all of us).

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3/13/11 9:58 P

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I'm sorry to hear about your dog. last January our yellow lab mix must fallen down our steps which we didn't know. not until later that night he could not stand up and was shaking. we tried giving a pain killer which allowed him to sleep and go to the bathroom. next day he seemed fine until we got to the park. he barely could stand his legs were buckled in. we went to vets and they gave him a steroid to shrink the inflamation in his back. he did get better for a little bit but the dose must not have been strong enough. we did get a back xray for him (not cheap). we were able to see where he hurt himself and how bad. two spots one a base of his neck and three inches p from his tail.

the stronger steroid over a few weeks worked. it took him 7 weeks of absolute quiet, no playing, no walking except to use the bathroom. he resumed regular walks after 12 weeks. he never got his full strength or energy back. he is taking walks up to 4 miles and is doing good.

I know money is tight for everyone but I would recommend if you could ask if the humane society could help you get steroids to help him. maybe even call a vet and see if they can give any assistance. My others dogs with some hip and knee problems responses well to triple strength joint Max from entirely pets.com. if able you could try. wish you and your dog the best.

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3/13/11 8:43 P

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He has some problems, but never to this extent. He is walking a little better, but still has problems when he is standing. As I said, I don't have any money. I am badly overdrawn. There are no places for someone without money to take their dogs unless they want to just take them to the Humane Society and have them killed. There is NO veterinary help there.



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3/13/11 8:27 P

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If this was a sudden thing you should get him checked out. If it's an ongoing condition that's slowly getting worse then comfort measures may help.

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3/13/11 8:05 P

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Sounds like a back problem to me. I don't know what you could do except pain killers and massage

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3/13/11 8:04 P

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I gave Ela aspirine when she hurt her leg. The vet told me to. Very small peace of it...But maybe there is a free clinic you could take him to, just so you know what the problem is?
Try finding it on here:
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Or try finding helpful answers here:
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What about messaging it, and either use ice/heat after the message.

We are doing some messaging on Phoenix front legs, and then encouraging him to dig (we also have a "no dig" command) to help his front legs. For strength in his back legs we are doing a lot of sit/down/sit/down (we call them puppy push ups)

Is he in pain? What about using an enteric coated aspirin?

We use for joints (Omega 3 pills; Glucosamine/MSM/Chrondrotin; and Phoenix gets a "joint cookie" (1 a day). We have also just started a trial drug study (50days for free), though unless our old vet says its beneficial for Phoenix joint issues, it's too expensive for us to use ($60+ for 50 days) - which wouldn't be bad but with 3 dogs, that's more then we can afford right now.

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3/13/11 7:54 P

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Today I took Blue out for a walk and he was having trouble with his hind legs buckling under him. He hasn't had that much trouble before, not even when he tore his ACL. Does anyone know what I can do to help him get the strength back? I have been giving him Glucosamine and L-Glutamate with his food (for joints and muscle building). He was in his crate while I was gone. Could that have caused him more problem? I don't know if the problem stems from the crate, just being weaker or one of his short tumbles down the couple steps to go outside (they are front and back). He is walking like a German Shepherd and that isn't the way these dogs are supposed to walk.

I have absolutely no money anymore so am hoping that massage or something will help him. He is still a happy boy and eating fine and following me all over the house.



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