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I'll be really interested I what you end up doing and would love to see pictures!

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8/13/12 11:37 P

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I called the school and they said no candles, and those are all great ideas, but we kind of wanted to really use a real candle for the impact, so we (me and other leader) got to thinking that our meeting place has a door to a covered entryway, so we can do the candle portion outside, then have the parents come inside and keep the girls outside, and have them do that knock to come in, it could work out really well! I think I'll ask the church if we can borrow a long candle lighter and have a few of them hold it each time a candle is lit. I have to look into that again because I didn't read it much, assuming we couldn't do it.

I thought of a couple more questions, I'll post them in a different thread so I don't confuse things!

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8/13/12 11:11 P

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Flameless candles are a great idea. They could flip the little switch on the bottom. Or, if using the tape the paper flame idea, you could still have the "flame" feeling by getting one of those little campfires with fabric "flames" above logs. The ones I've seen are small and you can hear the little fan blowing the flames if it is very quiet, but when are eight little girls quiet? It really does look like a fire, and the girls love to stick their hands in it when you aren't looking. It's a happy alternative. A bit pricey for one ceremony, but not for lots of ceremonies. It can become a troop tradition they look forward to.

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8/13/12 9:35 A

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We've done investitures in the school cafeteria many times. You can still use the flame idea:
1) take the flame portion outside
2) use flameless candles
3) have the girls tape the paper flame to paper candles

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8/10/12 11:59 P

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Thanks so much, LJ, that was so helpful. I read about the candle part of a ceremony, but we will be meeting in the school cafeteria. I don't know how sensitive their fire alarms are and I would be MORTIFIED if we activated it! haha! I better not risk it, I wish we could do that though, that's so great. It's just our troop that meets in the meeting place, and we're only going to have about 8 girls in it, so it'll be small.

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I have a few memories, I remember singing a song about a pet worm in a straw, or something like that!! I remember part of it was "oops I'm sorry!" I remember that investiture ceremony (which I just remembered today, forgot all about it) and I remember being in school w/my uniform on, with these long brown socks, And I have my brownie pins and a few patches from then too. I wasn't much of a packrat as a child but those were really special to me and I kept them all these years.

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8/10/12 10:13 P

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My granddaughters had a group investiture for the Scouts of all levels who meet at the same meeting place. It wasn't especially fancy, but the girls still felt they had participated in an investiture/rededication ceremony. I think they were impressed with how many attending adults also rededicated, being Girl Scout Alumnae. And of course they loved getting their new pins, with the tradition of wearing them upside-down until they do a good deed, which most managed to do before cleanup.
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But, while better than no ceremony, there were so many girls there that it wasn't very personal or troop-building. I like ceremonies that are almost Scouts Own and sort of spiritual and loving because they are just for the one troop involved. Especially memorable to the girls is if you let them all light the three candles. It wouldn't work for my granddaughter's Brownie troop, because there are nowhere near the needed number of adults willing to do Scouting for girls, and anyone who dares to run a troop gets overwhelmed with pleas to include just one more girl.... but in a smaller troop, you can divide the girls into thirds, and if you get those really long matches, they can all hold on to one part of a match. Then as they say the GS Promise, they can pause after each of the three parts for one group to light a candle. You can leave the lights off for the whole ceremony if there's a soft light or two in the room so there's enough light for the scared-of-the-dark ones to not feel in total darkness. As each girl comes forward to receive her first or new level pin, the firelight glints off the pin and makes it very special. And as the first-year girls who already have pins are called up to join the new members around the three candles (nobody's back to them and not blocking them from the parents or audience if present) to rededicate themselves to the same Promise, they feel special, too. You can ask any alumnae present to stand at their seats while everyone says the Promise together as a group after the ceremony. Don't try the GS Laws. Most don't remember them well enough. But you can mention and explain the laws during the ceremony, even letting the girls do it.

That's really all you need: Greeting (or a Junior Troop sending their Flag Ceremony Team and all saying the Pledge of Allegiance ), having the girls light candles and say the three parts of the Promise and explaining that's why there are three parts of the Trefoil. Calling the new girls forward to get pins, one at a time, and giving them the GS sign and handshake, then giving a little three or four sentence talk about belonging to this long heritage of Scouting is something to be proud of, how Brownies learn things, make things, help people, and most of all have fun, and how you think this is the start of a great Brownie year. Then get all the girls up front facing the audience and everyone say the Promise, including alumnae. Then thank all for coming and ask somebody to say a SHORT blessing on the refreshments, then say let's go eat, and they do. While people are mingling, you can get to know some of the parents a little. Be sure to pay special attention to any girls whose parents didn't come. You can make it decorated with brown paper plates or balloons, or cut-outs of the Brownie elf or trefoils. Simple, but well-remembered. Be sure to do it right away, so it doesn't conflict with Halloween. But if you can't, just tie in Juliette Low's birthday.~Lee

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8/10/12 10:06 P

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Even if your service unit does one, that doesn't mean you have to join them (although it is more fun and the younger girls get to see the older girls which I think is SO important). You could still do it on your own.

I have very few memories of girl scouting. I do remember my Brownie uniform, our pond ceremony, and when I bridged from Juniors to Cadettes (I got a yellow silk rose that I probably still have somewhere). It is amazing how memorable that pond ceremony is.

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It's funny, I was reading the stuff about investiture, and that looking in the pond ritual and I remembered doing it as a kid!! And I remember going over this wooden bridge too, it was so clear to me, the 'pond' was tin foil! Lolol!! I have very few childhood memories, so it was a big thing to remember this!! I hope we get to do it with them, and it's not a service unit thing. I just checked, I still haven't been responded to :(

I read where they can not only get their Brownie pin, but their uniform that night too! (which would just be the vest for us in the beginning) That would be SO adorable, for them to get presented with the vest with their starting patches on it. Too sweet, I'm really hoping we can do it ourselves!

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I've done a daisy investiture, but not a Brownie one. I agree it is a great way to get the girls motivated for the year. I do always do a bridging ceremony at the end of the year. I tell the Brownie story and then have a pond / mirror and twist the girls while saying 'twist me and turn me and show me the elf, I looked in the water and saw' and the girls say 'myself'. Then I have them cross the bridge to juniors. It makes me cry every year, it fact I'm a bit teary just thinking about it. emoticon

I haven't done troop crests either, but again an easy way for the girls to feel involvement and a sense of belonging to the troop as they work together to decide which crest best fits them.

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We're starting a new Brownie troop, and I'm curious about investiture. Did you do it w/your troops yourselves or was it something done with your service unit? I've sent an email to the SU lady, but havent heard back. It sounds like a sweet ceremony.

Also, when did your troop pick a crest?? I see it is available for Brownies to do, even though years ago it wasn't available to them. It sounds so fun!! I'm not sure what point in the year we should do that..

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