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My first reaction to this assignment was anxiety at the thought of putting extra food on my plate and feeling scared that I might overeat. We will see how this goes today. Logically, I know I can do this.

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Today's (Day 17) task is practicing NOT overeating by purposely putting more food on your plate than what you plan to eat, preferably at lunch or dinner.
*choose a food that is on your plan, but purposely put on your plate a larger portion
*also, choose a food that is not on your plan at all for that meal, and put that on the plate too
*at the beginning of the meal, push the extra portions to the side
*and eat only what's on your plan
*if you are tempted to eat the extra food - use the anti-craving techniques (Day 13) and counter sabotaging thoughts
*when finished eating the food you were supposed to eat, clean your plate: throw out extra food or save it for another meal.

What do you think? How did the experiment go?
Share your thoughts here!

Day 17 To Do List:
- I read my Advantages Response Card and NO CHOICE response card at least twice today
- I read other response cards as needed
- I ate slowly, sitting down and noticing every bite (every time / most of he time / some of the time)
- I gave myself credit for engaging in helpful eating behaviors (every time / most of he time / some of the time)
- I did spontaneous exercise (some of the time / once or twice / not at all)
- I did planned exercise
- I monitored everything that I ate today in writing right after I ate it
- I wrote out a new food plan for tomorrow
- I weighed myself and recorded my weight
- I practiced not overeating

Personal note: I'll do this at lunch today.

If you scroll down to 23rd March, there is a great question @MARITIMER3 asked and I find @JUNEPA 's answer very helpful about being rigid about the program's tasks.

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-just add healthy foods gradually to stop losing
-work out every day - 30-60 minutes is enough to maintain weight and good mood
-do not try to balance overeating by extreme workouts, it is not going to work
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Day 17 End Overeating

This and the next few lessons are very timely for me and where I need to focus. One strategy partially working is leaving something on my plate as a reminder to not go back for seconds or to overeat. Lately because of a lack of planning I have been allowing myself to get too hungry and then fooling myself into thinking that I need to eat a lot and to eat it fast. I did this and I over ate at lunch today. emoticon But I'm giving myself credit for putting a sticky note on my place mat for dinner reminding me to eat a light dinner, leave some, slow down, no seconds and I followed through. emoticon

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Now I understand! We had scrambled eggs and ham for brunch, and I put two extra slices of ham on my plate. I ate my food, leaving the two pieces of ham. I was not hungry, but simply seeing them there made me want to eat them. I left them, but I understand how easy it would have been to eat them just because they were there.

This made me realize how often I have cleaned my plate in a restaurant, even though I had eaten more than I wanted, or needed.

Also when we are invited to have dinner with a friend, I eat what they put on my plate, or have dessert which I did not plan to eat. Because I would find it difficult to turn down food from a friend, I will prepare for a meal out by having smaller meals the rest of the day.

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3/23/19 12:19 A

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Day 17 of the Beck Diet Solution Trek, "Practising not over-eating" where we purposely put more on our plate than we should, and then don't eat it. Either throw it away or put it away for later consumption. I was very aware all day of what I chose to eat being equal to what I put in my mouth and ate. At lunch, I put more tortellini than I was going to eat, didn't eat it at lunch but made it part of my supper. I made more chicken than DH and I usually eat for supper and didn't eat the extra, just ate according to my meal plan, and put the extra chicken in the fridge for another meal another day, probably Sunday night, when I clean up the leftovers in the fridge.

This is an exercise to practice for the times when someone dishes us more than we want to eat, to not clean up the plate if it is not part of our plan. This can happen at restaurants or when eating at someone else's house.


Maritimer3, I have a general reaction to do what is reasonable and not be rigid. But for the Beck Trek, I make an exception and try to do things exactly like Beck says to experience the lesson and reflect on general wisdom of what Beck is trying to show us. It is not that Beck wants us to be rigid, it is that she wants to make some points that are more easily understood if we do the exercises. And while I think I sometimes know what she is trying to teach, just for the sensation of the direct experience, I do it, and sometimes I learn something more than I expected the lesson to be about.
I do get that thinking about what we are doing is better than being rigid, I think it is kind of fun to be rigid for 42 days and not make more decisions than I have to, I trust Beck is not going to make me do something that is not good for me.

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okay... at lunch or dinner, I am to:
- put a larger serving than usual on my plate of something I planned to eat; and
- put an extra food on my plate... something that was not on my plan.

We are to put the extra food on the side of our plate, and not eat it. It can be thrown away or kept for another meal.

I understand that this is to show us that we don't always have to clean our plates.

I can see that it could be useful when we are served extra-large portion in a restaurant, or when someone else is dishing up our food and gives us too much. It seems kind of silly to do it at home when we are cooking and serving the food ourselves, but I will do it.

Since I do not waste food, I will save the extra portion for another meal, or add it to a casserole or soup that I make.

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3/19/19 8:49 A

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Thanks for all your thoughts on this! Made me dig deeper into why I feel so compelled to clean my plate and how can I make the shift towards being ok with leaving food. My experiment didn't go well this time around, so I will practice it again at a later time.

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Day 17 End Overeating
I can throw away food, but I prefer not to waste food.
Developing good decision-making skills at the "point of purchase"
Research and learn about nutritious food (read labels and use by dates).

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It was very interesting to read all the other posts. Some had point of views that I would have never think of :)

I did this today at lunch and put on my plate double veggie, added one apple and a chocolate square. The thing I was sure I'd failed with was, of course, the chocolate. To my surprise, I was able to put aside everything that wsn't on my meal plan... I still can't believe how easy it was to say no to chocolate.

I'm sure that at a restaurant it'll be way more tricky (it's usually food I never cook, that tastes delicious and I might not return there anytime soon to have it again), but I'll try this experiment with restaurant food as well :)

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emoticon nods at the memories of the things people we loved did for us when they offered us food! the things they said, how they loved us! the depressions they lived through!

and now... wow, food, a lot of extra food is all around us, eh? easy to grab & eat!!!

emoticon I have read this book several times and just had this new2me realization... this lesson is profound and essential ~ it is a way to practice saying "no thank you" to all the extra, way too much food... whether it's on our own plate that we dish up or food available anywhere, from free samples while shopping, the foods available to buy, the tv ads encouraging us to go buy... the drive thrus we pass to and from here & there... the tables full of yummilicious and unusual and infrequent treats & goodies at parties, buffets, feasts and restaurants ~ the little splurges & special occasions and reasons we find to eat and treat ourselves and that other people want to indulge/treat us! and as I ponder this, there are all the gazillion reasons I chose and overate food and well, why i'm still here... trying to eat enough, not too much. This is really something to keep working on for me... stopping at enough. I can always eat more later, when I need more physically... later. I do not need to eat it all, right now, just because it's there or because I *think* I want it...

hmmmmÖ. ok. nods.... yep... just is what it is. too much hurts me... whether its 2 extra bites on my plate that I devour because it there or because it's part of all the food surrounding me... all the dang time. I just have to stop at enough... for me. because I matter and my reasons matter.

excellent lesson :)

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I am reading here all the beautiful traditions and thoughts that we received from our parents and grandparents that lived through really tough times. Our elders lived through World Wars and the depression where money, jobs, and food was very scarce. The lucky people who lived in the country and grew their own food, animals, etc, , may have had more resources, but they also had to store food, canning, smoking, etc. It was hard work. People baked their bread, pastries, etc. And celebrations were always with food. It was the tradition.

And so through these traditions we received love, and connection, family and community. Of course, why wouldn't we also receive all the messages to the brain that this is good, this is love. And trying to change these feelings and thoughts is very difficult. But I think maybe there is a place in our brain to store wonderful memories and let them go to the past and tell our brains, we have to upgrade now to the 21st century where the food is loaded with chemicals and sugar, where our brains are addicted to getting this rush from fast food, where the TV bombards us with pictures of food that will kill us if we eat it all the time.

I love those past memories and I love being alive. And I love being healthy and active. So time for accepting all the retraining that Beck has presented in such a wonderful program. The science behind cognitive brain therapy is very sound. I just didn't get how deep I would have to go to understand how important it is.




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Jmarie, I understand where you are coming from on this. The way we were raised has a lot of influence over how we eat.

Countrylife, my mom used to tell me those things too. I threw them out the window at some point... otherwise how did I get to be over 200 pounds at a couple of times in my life?

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Day 17: End Overeating
This is an exercise that I actually do. I tend to leave a few bites on my plate.
emoticon Grandma's lesson on how to be a proper lady. Never slurp soup, take a little taste of everything and leave at least 2 bites so that you don't appear to be ravenous or gluttonous or lack self control. *I think the actual reason is if your plate is empty, your host may offer you more food. Leaving one bite on the plate is a polite, silent way of telling your host you don't want more food. Hmmm...I think my way around this was just pile on extra food so that I could eat what I wanted and still leave a few bites. I am now trying to plate proper proportions but I still leave a few bites.

Last night the baking potatoes were over large. I cut about a third off and put it to the side then fixed the rest up. I found that there was still some left when I had "enough" so I scrapped the rest.

Crazy family dynamics my grandfather was a great depression era person who was over worried about starving children in China?!?!?






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3/17/19 8:12 P

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Another exercise that I didn't care for that much when I went through Beck the last time. I really could not understand how putting extra food on the plate and not eating it was going to help me. So for the past few weeks I have been putting food on my plate that is on my plan and leaving one or 2 bites. At first this really was difficult for me, and I had to sit with it and think about why I had so many feelings about leaving the food.

At first I thought it was wasteful, but then I realized it was because I really was just a tiny bit hungry and I thought that last little bite was really going to fill me up. Then I thought about how really silly that thought is. One bit of anything is only going to help you if you are starving.

So for the past week of so, I realize why this experiment works and why it is useful. If you train yourself to not clean your plate, you are able to desensitize yourself to a lot of the old beliefs and silly notions that have been inside the brain for years. You are able to let go of the idea of that leaving food is equal to wasting food. You are able to realize that cleaning your plate does not equal feeling full. You are able to let your brain know that you are stronger than the old signals it has been giving you for so many years.

Sabotaging thoughts are so automatic that if we don't shock them out of our system by doing these types of exercises, we will cling to the old beliefs forever. Once again the Beck Solution proves to be more clever than anything else that has helped me curb overeating.






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Practiced this at lunch and dinner today. At lunch, I put extra meat, and carrot & celery sticks on my plate. I did not eat the extra-- but I have to admit that I made "sheep's eyes" at them. I was really hungry, it was lean protein and (c'mon, already) carrots and celery. Can you hear the sabotaging thoughts going on? lol. Reminded myself of my goal to eat only what I'd planned, regardless of what was on the plate. I can also report that the dog does not care for celery, but the meat and carrots were appreciated.

Dinner went a lot easier-- no problem leaving the extra food behind. (Dog didn't get any, it was kind of spicy.)

I have bookmarked the chapter and intend to practice this before eating at a restaurant, friend's house, etc.

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3/17/19 1:52 P

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I'm genuinely dreading this experiment. I feel like I'm purposefully setting myself up to fail. But I'm willing to give it a go! I hope that it'll be more manageable since I'm also monitoring my hunger today too.

I'll add extra banana to my snack and a chicken leg to dinner (not on today's plan). Ah! Wish me luck!

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emoticon I am not hungry, so should not be a problem today. Will practice it, however.

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Today's (Day 17) task is practicing NOT overeating by purposely putting more food on your plate than what you plan to eat, preferably at lunch or dinner.
*choose a food that is on your plan, but purposely put on your plate a larger portion
*also, choose a food that is not on your plan at all for that meal, and put that on the plate too
*at the beginning of the meal, push the extra portions to the side
*and eat only what's on your plan
*if you are tempted to eat the extra food - use the anti-craving techniques (Day 13) and counter sabotaging thoughts
*when finished eating the food you were supposed to eat, clean your plate: throw out extra food or save it for another meal.

What do you think? How did the experiment go?
Share your thoughts here!

I'm born and raised as a plate cleaner, so this exercise is helpful for me.
As dr. Beck points out, eating food over my plan is just another kind of wasting it, not any better than throwing it out!
In real life, I'm almost always the one who puts the food on my plate, and I always serve myself the right portions, using a kitchen scale.
I know I should be able to throw away food, but I'm very strongly conditioned against that, so I don't push myself to do it. Leftovers in the pot used to be my nemesis... the skill of Not Eating Standing Up helps me not to pig out, and whatever is left I pack it for a later meal, even if it is a very small amount.

Today, I'll put +50% chili on my plate at lunch, and 2 bananas instead of one. The not-planned-at-all food will be a small bowl of tortilla chips.

Day 17 To Do List:
- I read my Advantages Response Card and NO CHOICE response card at least twice today
- I read other response cards as needed
- I ate slowly, sitting down and noticing every bite (every time / most of he time / some of the time)
- I gave myself credit for engaging in helpful eating behaviors (every time / most of he time / some of the time)
- I did spontaneous exercise (some of the time / once or twice / not at all)
- I did planned exercise
- I monitored everything that I ate today in writing right after I ate it
- I wrote out a new food plan for tomorrow
- I weighed myself and recorded my weight
- I practiced not overeating


Edited by: KRISZTA11 at: 3/17/2019 (05:05)
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Maintenance Lessons Learned:
-go on with the healthy lifestyle learned in weight loss phase
-just add healthy foods gradually to stop losing
-work out every day - 30-60 minutes is enough to maintain weight and good mood
-do not try to balance overeating by extreme workouts, it is not going to work
-avoid overeating, instead of satisfaction you get stronger cravings


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Day 17 End Overeating - Technique - leaving food on plate creates awareness. It's difficult to throw food away. I understand it's wasted in my body. Solution: plan and shop wisely to prevent waste and overeating. Get moving to prevent eating."10 Smart ways to sneak in a Sweat Session" u.nu/5jbn
Review strategies (Beck p.130) and "17 ways to stop eating" u.nu/mt51
emoticon Cutting back on using gum or mints to avoid temptations.
"Once you learn to tolerate the sensation of having an empty mouth, you will be truly free (Beck - green book p. 96-102)."

Sabotage: I just want to eat everything I want, in whatever quantity I want.
Response: When I eat like crap, I feel like crap! Eating with abandon sounds good in theory but feels terrible in reality. RELAX - Dress-up warm and get outside u.nu/zj13 u.nu/-kve
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Eating out at lunch today. I have my food plan ready. However, I will have to use these skills to not overeat the portion sizes.

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I did this exercise yesterday. I made spaghetti and chicken meatballs and served myself an extra half serving of pasta. At first, i just started eating and forgot to push the half serving aside. Then I ate almost all of "my food" and gave the extra to my husband. He was happy to eat it, but as Idgie notes, perhaps that wasn't the nicest thing to do, as he is trying to shed a few pounds too!

I also was thinking about what QUEENOFTHEFOREST said about not feeling full because she doesn't eat enough bulky food. I think I am having that problem too. I will work on adding more vegetables.

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Alison, great job, as you said, unplanned food shows up whether we want it or not, so it is better to be prepared!

Rachel, take your time, maybe you can try this first with a not-too-appealing food, like the green beans in the example in the book.

Maria, that cobbler sounds very tempting, you deserve a lot of credit for resisting the sabotaging thoughts!

Idgie, congrats to staying on plan despite the sadness at work, and it is so nice to hear you have such a nice supportive partner.

Susan, it is so helpful to read how you have already developed the habit of separating the extra amount of food. I need to build up that habit too!

Tonight it was so nice to just put my normal portions on my tray. I find it satisfying to see it all spread out in front of me... then the main course is gone, just fruit and square of chocolate is left,,, then just one small piece of chocolate left.., so much easier to stop.
I think in restaurants part of my problem is that they serve the dishes one by one, and I can't see them all together, and keep eating beyond fullness.



Edited by: KRISZTA11 at: 10/18/2018 (15:16)
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-go on with the healthy lifestyle learned in weight loss phase
-just add healthy foods gradually to stop losing
-work out every day - 30-60 minutes is enough to maintain weight and good mood
-do not try to balance overeating by extreme workouts, it is not going to work
-avoid overeating, instead of satisfaction you get stronger cravings


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Susan, thanks!

I realized today that I don't always finish my food; I usually offer my partner anything I run out of room or desire for. That might actually not be too nice to my partner, come to think of it.

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I pretty much have a habit of portioning off the amount I can eat and pushing the excess to the side. My husband often dishes up the food and gives me too much, so before I start eating, I determine how much is on plan and push the rest to the side. Also, when I go to a restaurant, I have developed the habit of separating my food, generally I separate the portions in half because they always serve too much. I practiced putting more on my plate today and then either throwing out the excess or saved it for tomorrow. I didn't feel any anxiety in doing this.

Idgie, so caring of you to try to help that woman. And good for you for staying on track after a really difficult emotional day...not easy to do. Lots of credit today!

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Slept almost too late to make it to the gym, but I rushed out and got there (yay, me!) and didn't see that this was the assignment for today, so I will do it tomorrow.

Also giving myself credit for staying on-plan despite a really difficult emotional day at work (tried to help a woman who is in fear for her life from domestic violence -- helped the best I could, but it made me feel sad and hopeless). Didn't overeat; just messaged my partner that I would like some nice, hot, on-plan soup to be waiting for me when I got home.

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I did this exercise with my 1/2 leftover restaurant dinner. It was slightly more than 1/2 so I gave about 15% to DH. It was not as easy as dividing the meal at the restaurant to take home. Even harder was putting 25% extra of my favorite homemade almost sugarless healthy berry and peach cobbler on my dessert plate and then giving this to DH. He has no weight problem and happily ate everything I gave him along with all of the remaining cobbler. Had several sabotaging thoughts about the cobbler today. I resisted, gave myself credit and glad it is gone.

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Oh, I feel so reluctant to do this exercise. O well, maybe another day. Meanwhile i am still tracking my food, resisting unplanned food and i am giving myself credit for it.
Maybe will do Day 17 at another time.
Kudos to all of you, courageous folks who are doing it. (and, I am sure, benefitting from it)

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My usual tactic is to not put unplanned food on my plate or in my house. But I did it. I put a bar of dark chocolate on my plate at lunch and didn't eat it. I put a larger serving of egg/veg mixture on my plate at breakfast, and put it away again to reheat for tomorrow. The unplanned stuff will show up whether I want it or not (I am going to a meeting where snacks will be provided. I will not eat anything)

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Mary, that's a great idea about nutrient dense food!
Non-starchy vegetable are good ways to fill up, not necessarily lettuce, and not necessarily raw, eg. broccoli, green beans, zucchini, tomatoes, squash... they contain very few calories but filling and delicious.

Suzy, I'm sorry about illness in your family. Don't worry about timing of days, it is perfectly fine if you skip a day or two, or if you follow a few days behind. I appreciate you are here with us, despite the stress.
Maribeth, I feel bad about wasting food too, and I agree, shopping well and planning well is the best way to prevent wasting food.

Sweetorange, lots of credit to you for not eating the extra amount of food, and practicing anticraving techniques!

Christi, wow you have mastered this skill, I admire your confidence!

I did the experiment at dinner as planned, and it was weird to see on my tray all the food I was not going to eat. I took the time to take in the sight of walnuts, fruit yogurt and 2 extra squares of chocolate, and labelled them as Not My Food, but it was annoying!
I put yogurt back in fridge, walnuts and chocolate back in container. I threw away remaining chickpeas - I didn't like it, but normally I'm very good at not wasting food.

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-just add healthy foods gradually to stop losing
-work out every day - 30-60 minutes is enough to maintain weight and good mood
-do not try to balance overeating by extreme workouts, it is not going to work
-avoid overeating, instead of satisfaction you get stronger cravings


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I am actually pretty good about not having a "happy plate". Took 2 slices of pork loin but only finished about 2/3 of one. I am not a garbage disposal and it is O.K. to scrap food!!!

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Well, itís was hard not to finish my plate but I did it! May b I got used to specific quantity since we started and I feel guilty to eat more Than it and I practice and cravings techniqye every time I want to overeat

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I made my plan and added things that over portion and "off plan" for that meal. I am looking forward to trying this.

I've been erratic in participation and posting due to serious family illness. Worked hard to stick to plan and posting for a few days . Then gave up for a few days. Lesson - not sticking to it makes things worse. I may not be able to be as exact as I would be otherwise, but I value being part of this group and the program!!

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UhOh. I just learned something about why I never feel full. I did Day 17 experiment. I ate mindfully. But I never did feel full. And I think i know why, My meal was too nutrient dense. Very healthy and nutritious. But I need more bulky veggies that are filling and low calorie. No wonder I have gotten into the habit of measuring and weighing. Time to stock up on veggies. I eat enough veggies to get nutrients right, just never enough bulky foods to feel full.

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This reading was a surprise. I never learned this skill in previous Beck Treks. When I have successfully lost weight it is because first of all I quit sugar absolutely. And secondly because I learned to recognize what a portion is within my calorie allowance. I have never developed an awareness of fullness. And can really I understand the importance of it. It is going to take some mindfulness practice.
This morning I will put two pieces of bread on my plate and will eat one. At lunch I will put a whole sweet potato on my plate and eat only half. My doggie will get the other half with her dinner tonight. And I will put 8 ounces of fish on my plate and eat 6. All this is really still focusing on portion size. So I am going to have to really practice mindfulness. That is the key I think.

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Today's (Day 17) task is practicing NOT overeating by purposely putting more food on your plate than what you plan to eat, preferably at lunch or dinner.
*choose a food that is on your plan, but purposely put on your plate a larger portion
*also, choose a food that is not on your plan at all for that meal, and put that on the plate too
*at the beginning of the meal, push the extra portions to the side
*and eat only what's on your plan
*if you are tempted to eat the extra food - use the anti-craving techniques (Day 13) and counter sabotaging thoughts
*when finished eating the food you were supposed to eat, clean your plate: throw out extra food or save it for another meal.

What do you think? How did the experiment go?
Share your thoughts here!

I'm born and raised as a plate cleaner, so this exercise is helpful for me.
I never waste food (I hate that!) so I'll save the extra food for another meal.
As dr. Beck points out, eating food over my plan is just another kind of wasting it, not any better than throwing it out!
In real life, I'm almost always the one who puts the food on my plate, and I always serve myself the right portions.

Today, I'll put +50% chickpeas on my plate at dinner, and 2 extra squares of dark chocolate (over the planned 1 square), the not-planned-at-all food will be a handful of walnuts and a container of fruit yogurt.

Day 17 To Do List:
- I read my Advantages Response Card and NO CHOICE response card at least twice today
- I read other response cards as needed
- I ate slowly, sitting down and noticing every bite (every time / most of he time / some of the time)
- I gave myself credit for engaging in helpful eating behaviors (every time / most of he time / some of the time)
- I did spontaneous exercise (some of the time / once or twice / not at all)
- I did planned exercise
- I monitored everything that I ate today in writing right after I ate it
- I wrote out a new food plan for tomorrow
- I weighed myself and recorded my weight
- I practiced not overeating


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-just add healthy foods gradually to stop losing
-work out every day - 30-60 minutes is enough to maintain weight and good mood
-do not try to balance overeating by extreme workouts, it is not going to work
-avoid overeating, instead of satisfaction you get stronger cravings


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I think this would be harder if I were eating fried things or other rich foods, because I have trouble stopping with those, but my planned lunch was 2 cups of sweet potatoes and a bowl of soup. I ate my soup first, and had a bowl of 3 cups of sweet potatoes next to it. I ate about a cup of the sweet potatoes before running out of room. I put it away in the fridge for later and changed my tracker to reflect the 1 cup instead of 2. I don't really have any compulsion to overeat on vegetables.

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Congrats to the End Overeating experiment!

You are lucky to have family members who can use the leftover food without problems! : )

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Day 17- End Overeating
2 slices of pizza ate 1 and 1/2.
Put remaining pizza up husband will finish up leftovers.

I usually keep control of what goes on plate at home. Very seldom eat out. When we do I am already in the habit of giving a portion of my food away to husband or son. They both are linebacker size and have no problem finishing my leftovers.

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This is one I'm going to have to practice a few times! Regular meals aren't a problem - I have no trouble eating what was planned. But desserts laid on the table in front of me at family suppers, or over-sized restaurant meals - that is much more difficult. I did the exercise with breakfast a couple of days ago, and it was easy to eat what I'd planned and put the rest in the fridge for later. I will practice tonight at an event that has sweets - my weakness. I know how much my plan allows, and will take twice that much for my plate.

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I had a friend who imagined her food turning moldy...


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Congrats to doing and sharing this experiment - thought provoking!
Your friend's method is too funny : ))

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Day 17 End Overeating:

I was resistant to this lesson in the past just because I didn't want to put that extra food on my plate and waste it. But then I realized I do this all the time with food I don't like. I have never had a problem of throwing out food that didn't taste good. So why should it be a problem with food that does taste good? OH yes, of course I know the answer, because it is eating food I like that caused the problem of overeating to begin with.

So in reality, I think this is a really good lesson to help when you go out to eat and are served helpings that are over your planned limit. But for the sake of this lesson, I did this with Chapatti yesterday. I love yummy luscious soft warm Indian chapatti and I knew that it would be difficult for me to limit myself, since I hardly ever eat it. So I purposely took 1/2 Chapatti, knowing that I should probably limit myself to 1/4.

As I ate my food and that other piece of chapatti sat on my plate, I felt all those feelings going through me. -- it is a treat, 1/4 more won't hurt me, how can you just throw that away, when are you ever going to get this again. Because I knew I was doing this all on purpose, it began to feel almost funny how the mind is willing to throw everything that you have just learned to the wayside. -- And it was very insightful for me to think -- if this chapatti had dropped on the floor, I would have thrown it in the garbage without a second thought.

My plan for the future is:
1. Write down this whole incidence on an escape plan card.
2. Always be ready to either throw leftovers away or wrap them up for another meal
3. Look at what food it is that is calling me to eat out of control and think about the ingredients that go into making it. Would I ever eat a tablespoon of fat, or oil? Would I ever eat a quarter cup of flour?, would I ever eat a tablespoon of sugar? Then why is it that I have so much trouble giving up eating these things when they are all combined into a cookie, cake or pie? None of the ingredients are healthy and neither is the resulting pastry, so forget eating it -- and if I am really hungry I can choose a healthy food instead.

I had a friend that used to visualize her food falling into a pile of dog poop. It really helped her. I have tried that before, but I guess my imagination isn't good enough.




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Re-doing Day 17 today. Had my regular breakfast of Greek yogurt, fruit, bran buds, but dishd up 50% more yogurt and used whole banana instead of half. Didnít add extra bran because they get soggy. Ate the usual amount, then put rest back in the fridge for a snack later today (actually I seldom have snacks any more) or for tomorrow morning. 2 cups water. I canít get my head around throwing out good food.

Lunch was a cucumber sandwich on Daveís thin-sliced whole,grain bread, and a piece of pan-seared haddock. 2 cups of water. Put extra fish and a piece of cheese on my sandwich. Ut didnít eat them. Not sure this quite makes sense to me, because I had no intention of eating them when I put them on my plate. This lesson would definitely be harder in a restaurant when Iíve chosen something really delicious and am served a too-large portion.

Peter made spaghetti and meatballs tonight for dinner. I took a lot of extra spaghetti, added 2 cups of spinach to my sauce, and left half the spaghetti.

Iíll try to remember this lesson next time we go out for dinner.

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Day 17 - Stop Overeating. As many people have said, I do not throw away good food. I do understand the reasoning behind this lesson though, so I will practice serving myself more food than normal, dividing the extra food from my regular portion, and putting the extra away for another meal or planned snack. Iíve learned to do this in restaurants, so I can do it here as well.

9:30 p.m. very rushed day, and I didnít properly test this lesson, so will do it over again tomorrow. But I give myself credit for staying at the lower end of all my ranges today, and for not eating any of the tempting sandwiches and sweets at the memorial service we attended tonight.

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Wow, great job, I'm glad the experiment went so well, and congrats to staying on plan during the family birthday dinner!
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-do not try to balance overeating by extreme workouts, it is not going to work
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I was resistant to doing this one because I wasn't sure I could resist the extra food and it didn't seem right to put food on my plate with the intention of throwing it out afterwards. I felt some anxiety as I put macaroni and cheese on my plate beside my 2 eggs and 1 piece of dry toast. But as soon as I shoved it to the side of my plate, the anxiety left and after I ate my 2 eggs and toast, I scraped the macaroni and cheese into the garbage and was surprised that I felt good as I did it, and I gave myself credit. For the family birthday dinner at my son's house, I decided to just put the amount I felt I should eat on my plate and nothing extra. The food was very good and I was tempted to have a second serving, but I distracted myself with my grandchildren and that worked. It felt good to feel in control.

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@SERIOUSLIM and @SUPERWOMANSUE18 - wow, congrats to remembering and applying your skills on this exercise!

@DIROB57 - even if not by the book, it still sounds like a helpful learning experience. Transitioning into maintenance, worries about weigh falling below goal, loved ones commenting "you are too skinny"... that's a lot to deal with!
After going through that cycle a few times, I found it helps to increase amount of food on my plan gradually. Small changes, like +1 tsp of sunflower seeds / +1tsp olive oil / + a small apple / +a container of yogurt... adding things like these daily can turn the weight loss into the desired sideways trend, without the risk of overeating. Fats and proteins worked better than carbs in my case.

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-just add healthy foods gradually to stop losing
-work out every day - 30-60 minutes is enough to maintain weight and good mood
-do not try to balance overeating by extreme workouts, it is not going to work
-avoid overeating, instead of satisfaction you get stronger cravings


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I should've done this exercise last night at supper. I hadn't preplanned that meal bc I knew we'd be bringing home takeout but I didn't know exactly where. Once I DID know, I should've gotten my usual grilled salmon and didn't. :( I ended up overeating at that meal....I haven't eaten that much at one time in a long time and I didn't like how that made me feel. Because I'm still having to work at keeping my weight up to my maintenance weight, I probably gave myself more leeway that I should have. I ate a takeout meal AND the dessert my husband bought for me because he said I'm getting too skinny...yikes..that was a lot of food at once! I brushed my teeth right after and made up my mind nothing else would go into my mouth. I didn't do terrible on overall calories for the day, but still...I overate. :(

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I did the exercise at lunch and it made me very anxious. Lots of sabotaging thoughts about how much I wanted and 'deserved" to eat it all, and I felt very angry putting my dish away, LOL.
Afterwards I was still hungry. I told myself that in a handful of hours it will be time for dinner and that I can wait. About an hour later I was still hungry, but I just grabbed a cup of coffee and sat down quietly and relaxed my craving mind, and by the time I was done with my coffee I felt back on track.

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I was reluctant to do the exercise but thought it is there for a reason. It was timely, actually, since I had bought a steak yesterday (i have steak maybe 4 times in a year).So that steak would be too big -steaks sold in North America generally are twice as big as steaks in France- ; i usually eat them all in one setting nevertheless, but this time I cut it in half on my plate and left it there to be wrapped at the end of the meal.
I had a planned big portion of rapini and strawberries. As I write this I just realize that I only applied the exercise to the meat. O well...
I am quite happy and proud of myself. I usually have wine with my steak but since it was for lunch I decided I will have herbal tea after the meal instead.
Worked well, not feeling deprived.

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very smart of you to prepare mentally for the family gathering,
Doing this exercise while people who made the meals are watching would be level 100 difficulty... so I would probably do it at lunch only.
Later in the program, there are chapters dealing with eating out and social pressure.

I did the experiment at lunch, and it went well.
Interestingly, when I put the extra rice on my plate it looked huge.
But when I pushed the extra amount to the side, the normal portion looked smaller and was less satisfactory than usual... and I think I ate faster too. I'll remember this!

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-do not try to balance overeating by extreme workouts, it is not going to work
-avoid overeating, instead of satisfaction you get stronger cravings


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I used to be a member of the "clean plate club." That is, as a child, I was told that I should eat all of the food on my plate. Matter of fact, I was even rewarded with desserts if I finished it all. Imagine how difficult it was for me to leave food on my plate. But I did it!!! I made it a habit when I eat at restaurants by asking for a to-go box when the meal is served. The simple yet uncomfortable act of leaving food on my plate was one of the most important techniques (eating slowly, mindfully and while sitting was another) I learned with Dr. Beck.
I still face challenges at family gathering. With the spring and summer holidays coming soon, I have an opportunity to strengthen my resistance muscles.

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If I overeat 1 day, I am very hungry the next day. So I really focus on what I am eating and the following day it will pass.

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Just coming off a long binge cycle ... where stinkin' thinkin' got the best of me ... and I "found" 30 pounds.

My mind set is eat when truly physically hungry and STOP when physically full. So, putting more than needed food on my plate right now is not gonna be productive for me. I found myself not eating all the salad I had prepared for supper last night.

Change your mind ... and the rest WILL follow.
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I'm going to a family dinner celebration at my son's house tonight, so this is good timing. I plan to practice with my lunch today, and practice again at dinner. The thing that holds me back about dinner is that I don't want to put food on my plate and then not eat it because they might think I didn't like it. I'm not sure what to tell myself about that or should I only put what I plan to eat on my plate? I tend to overeat when someone else made the meal because I want them to think I liked it. I'll even eat things I don't like, just so they will think I did like it.

I've had my grandchildren staying with me this week for March Break and they are going back home today. I really got distracted from practicing Beck techniques. I kept forgetting to use them. I told myself my excuse was having the children here and different routine and different foods and the tiredness that comes with looking after grandchildren (a nice tiredness, but still tiredness enough to sap my focus). Yesterday, I thought to myself...I am just making excuses for not doing the techniques....there will always be times when I am busy, distracted, tired, on a different schedule, faced with different foods....I shouldn't use these as excuses. The key will be to get to a point where I can stay focused despite the circumstances. (By the way, hats off to all the parents out there! I really respect anyone who can look after children and get anything else done at the same time! LOL!)


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Way to go on your progress, Suzy!
Don't worry about the days, take your time.

Thank you for the great blog, Pam!

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-just add healthy foods gradually to stop losing
-work out every day - 30-60 minutes is enough to maintain weight and good mood
-do not try to balance overeating by extreme workouts, it is not going to work
-avoid overeating, instead of satisfaction you get stronger cravings


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Today is an unusual day - I have an all day meditation retreat, so not a good day to experiment with this task. I will do it tomorrow. I am also going to be meticulous today about tracking. I have fallen short the last two day (and not for any very clear reasons that I have identified yet- maybe 'resistance' or maybe fear of change, since I had been making some serious progress in eating in healthier ways).

Edited by: SUZYB53 at: 3/17/2018 (07:53)
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Today's (Day 17) task is practicing NOT overeating by purposely putting more food on your plate than what you plan to eat, preferably at lunch or dinner.
*choose a food that is on your plan, but purposely put on your plate a larger portion
*also, choose a food that is not on your plan at all for that meal, and put that on the plate too
*at the beginning of the meal, push the extra portions to the side
*and eat only what's on your plan
*if you are tempted to eat the extra food - use the anti-craving techniques (Day 13) and counter sabotaging thoughts
*when finished eating the food you were supposed to eat, clean your plate: throw out extra food or save it for another meal.

What do you think? How did the experiment go?
Share your thoughts here!

I'm born and raised as a plate cleaner, so this exercise is helpful for me.
I never waste food (I hate that!) so I'll save the extra food for another meal.
As dr. Beck points out, eating food over my plan is just another kind of wasting it, not any better than throwing it out!
In real life, I'm almost always the one who puts the food on my plate, and I always serve myself the right portions.
I eat out less than 20 times per year, including vacations, family lunches and work Christmas dinner, so not much impact on me - but I like to stay in control at those rare occasions, rather than feeling stuffed, bloated and embarrassed.

Today, I'll put +50% rice on my plate at lunch, the not-planned-at-all food will be 1 square of dark chocolate (my after-dinner dessert)

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Edited by: KRISZTA11 at: 3/17/2018 (05:56)
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Maintenance Lessons Learned:
-go on with the healthy lifestyle learned in weight loss phase
-just add healthy foods gradually to stop losing
-work out every day - 30-60 minutes is enough to maintain weight and good mood
-do not try to balance overeating by extreme workouts, it is not going to work
-avoid overeating, instead of satisfaction you get stronger cravings


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Suzy, this was a great creative way to complete the exercise, and helped you focus on your meal.
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... and very interesting comments from the October reading too, thank you Sunshine, June and Kathleen!



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Maintenance Lessons Learned:
-go on with the healthy lifestyle learned in weight loss phase
-just add healthy foods gradually to stop losing
-work out every day - 30-60 minutes is enough to maintain weight and good mood
-do not try to balance overeating by extreme workouts, it is not going to work
-avoid overeating, instead of satisfaction you get stronger cravings


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Many, many opportunities to put food away or throw out the uneaten bits. I was highly aware of this all day. Yesterday I tested myself by putting hard boiled egg yolks (as well as whites) on my salad and then picked them out and put them in the trash. It took a lot of concentration to avoid eating one of the yolks along with the other salad ingredients. But I’m proud of myself for not going auto-pilot.

This turtle is to remind myself that slow but steady wins the race.


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I have a similar problem as most people on this thread seem to have with wasting food.

What I find interesting, though, is I never force my toddler to finish his food. I can see that he is acutely aware of when he is full and ready to stop. So, I don't force it. It's interesting that I don't adopt a similar approach for myself, even when I feel that I am full.

I read Julie Andrew's biogaphy, "Home" and she wrote about only eat half of her meals whenever she needed to lose weight. It made so much sense to me. Sometimes I do struggle to leave the food on the plate, or two throw it out. I hear the phrase "what a waste" in my head.

But it can be used for another day, or to eat later. It doesn't have to be a waste. And, most of the time I have good portion control, especially at home.

What I have done today is throw out the rest of my son's birthday cake. We have had enough of that, now.

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One of my strategies to stick to the plan is to eat food I am indifferent about the taste but that is highly nutritious, so I feel good about pushing myself to eat the whole amount I planned. Rather than having to struggle with putting on the brakes to stop eating a food I really like. This exercise is a good test if we use food we like, as this is training to not eat too much when we eat away from home and can't plan what will be served or how much.

I can't waste food. I feel it is immoral to waste food. But I can put the extra away and save it for another day. I make choices based on if everyone made this choice, would the world be a better place. If everyone was careful not to waste food, the answer is yes. That being said, I don't want to judge others, but I myself do what I think is right and honourable. In a test run like this, it is good to listen to yourself and how you react. And remember the test run when you are in the real situation of eating away from home and having less control over planning and eating what you planned.

Right now I am getting enough sleep and things are going well in general in my life and my desire to eat off plan has subsided. So this test run went well for me today. I am enjoying my simple easily repeatable daily plans. Like OneKidsMom says, it makes planning and execution easier. Kind of funny it took me so long to figure this out. I used to get bogged down trying to make a 17 day plan so that there wouldn't be repeats on the same day of the week and the menus would be more interesting. Now I am finding interesting my feelings and reactions to feeling like a hero when I stick tight to the plan.

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- Improved fitness and nutrition, energy and confidence are my rewards.
It is our choices...that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities.
A PH (personal high) is the main goal, a PB is the sometime icing on the cake.
Never underestimate the inevitability of gradualness.
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I sized up the Olive Garden meal I ordered, determined there was enough for THREE meals there, and pushed 2/3 of the food to one side. I ate 1/3 of my dish, a small scoop of salad and no breadsticks. The leftovers will be enjoyed again for two lunches this week. I ate 2 of the chocolate mints and left the rest for others to gather up.

I'm actually quite good at this.

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The folks who raised me were awful cooks. As a little kid I ate separately from the rest of the household. My poor dog got most of the food and nobody was any wiser. I was about 19 when a college buddy who was a fabulous Italian cook introduced me to garlic. Oh heaven. Yes the memories.

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The restaurant experiment was well... an experiment.

It was a 4 course meal plus tea or coffee.
Food was good, presentation was elegant and portions were small, so i did not have the possibility to leave anything on my plate for the 3 first courses. However, I only had 1/4 of the dessert, none of the enticingly fresh rolls or butter, and only one glass of wine, even though my friend, who was treating me, suggested i take 2.

My estimation is that i was within my calories range, but after the meal I felt uncomfortably full, probably because of the effect of all the salt, fat and sugar on my system.
And I have had slight cravings since.

I think my system is getting used to simple foods and I am also more aware of how i feel.
I will have to repeat the experience another time, but it was interesting and my eating was a bit more mindful than in the past.


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Oh those memories...
My family expected us kids to finish everything on our plate, too.
This approach must have been helpful when food was scarce, and my grandparents experienced that earlier in their lives - but not in today's environment! Still hard to overcome...

Cat, you are not alone with that!
Physical fullness is no good for me either in preventing overeating. I have to measure everything and put the right amount on my plate... easier this way!
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Goal weight:
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Maintenance Lessons Learned:
-go on with the healthy lifestyle learned in weight loss phase
-just add healthy foods gradually to stop losing
-work out every day - 30-60 minutes is enough to maintain weight and good mood
-do not try to balance overeating by extreme workouts, it is not going to work
-avoid overeating, instead of satisfaction you get stronger cravings


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I am truly struggling with this ... overeating. Each day I promise myself not to over eat ... to stop eating when I am physically full. So far ... I am not complying.
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Yah Rhonda those memories...like that time long ago when in kindergarden i threw 2 thirds of my snack of a chocolate croissant -i am french, remember- in the waste basket and was reprimanded for it. I still remember it!
Or apparently , around the same age, the dismay of my grand'mother when in a nice bakery/pastry shop, I chose a simple roll over a rich pastry.
Or even as a teen-ager when I preferred an apple over a tube of condensed milk -very "in" then among my peers- for a snack.
I have to return to this!

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Day 17 - End Overeating

I am a member of the clean plate club. I always marvel when I see people (mostly children) have a plate of yummy food in front of them and they just eat or nibble a little. I can remember when I was a little being in a restaurant having a kid sized hamburger and not wanting to eat it all. My Dad would ask me if I had room for a Hershey Bar. Of course! He made me finish the hamburger. And so it goes... we are taught from a young age to clean our plate; and if we do we may get dessert. I will make a point of practicing leaving some food on my plate... even if it is only a few bites. That would be an awesome habit to develop.


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