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4/4/12 9:28 A

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The last time I did it we came from Shepherd's pass, it was hard! But very rewarding, we also climbed Tyndall on that adventure...I think it was a 7 or 8 day trip.

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4/4/12 12:45 A

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I'm with Kayotic on this one - my stove is really light, too, and it's a great help to have something hot to start and end the day!! Since you'll be traveling with another person, you can split up the weight of gear - remember you do have to use a bear canister in that area and have to pack out your trash [I'm sure you knew that but I ran into a guy a couple of weeks ago who was planning to go and didn't seem to know much about what was involved!]

Too bad you didn't get into the lottery but if you can't get a walk-in pass, going on the JMT or doing one of the other peaks in the area can be really nice - a lot of people climb Mt Langley as an alternative. Don't forget you can also access Whitney from other trails, not just going up the 'main trail' from Portal, so if you have time, you could get a permit to go through the Cottonwood Lakes are, up New Army Pass and over to Whitney that way. I have also known people to backpack over from the western side and others who came in from Kearsarge Pass, although I have heard that can be gruesome if there's a lot of snow.

Good luck - I'm sure you're going to have a great time!

Lynda in Orange County, So Calif

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4/2/12 10:28 P

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My little stove weighs about 3 ozs, the fuel, well depends how long you are going, but a 12 oz can I think lasts a few days worth of boiling water, definitely worth it in the back country, especially at altitude where nothing seems appealing to eat! And last time we did that we brought peanut butter and added it to everything, and it was so tasty!

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4/1/12 3:54 P

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~sigh~ Well, we didn't get any hits on the lottery, so we're going to go the week after 4th of July and just do the walk-in service-just show up for a couple of days and try to get a couple of no show permits. My nephew is not going to go now, so it'll just be me and my brother, which will be fine. We're both in our mid-40's and in similar shape, though I think he's probably a faster walker than me b/c he's taller! And our attitude is that we'll spend 2 days trying to do the no show route and if that doesn't work, we'll forgo Whitney and just spend 3 or 4 days on the John Muir or Pacific Crest trail and that's it. It is beautiful country either way and I will be super happy either way it works out-it just means a lot more to my bro as he really likes to do the individual mountain climbs.

I appreciate the advise on the weather, I'll pack accordingly just in case! We have tentatively decided to go the MRE route for food so it might free up a little more room and weight capacity for layered clothing. Not sure I agree with this, so some additional experimentation might need to be made before the trip to play out both scenarios! Either MRE or freeze dried camp food? On 1 hand I think MRE's are more convenient in that you don't have to heat them, but on the other hand, I don't like them uncooked, bleh! Since we'll have to carry all the water content since they are pre-made, I'm not sure they're any better than carrying all dry foods which are less weight but need to be cooked so you have to carry the weight of a small camp stove and fuel. Of course we could carry and eat all granola and jerky with powdered milk and cereal! Whatever is lightest and takes up the least space, but is still edible is what we need!

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4/1/12 1:55 P

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emoticon emoticon Have a great time doing Mt Whitney!!

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3/16/12 3:18 P

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I love your attitude and hate to punch a hole in one of your theories but you are likely to run into thunderstorms in July/August so be prepared - it probably won't snow or anything like that but to be honest, the Sierra Mountains are pretty unpredictable all year around - I went on a backpack up there on the last weekend in June and we had rain, snow, sleet, hail, lightning, high winds and heat, all within a few hours! I went back to the same place the following weekend and had wonderful, clear, perfect weather - then went back a third time to another spot in the area at the end of July [not that far from Whitney, by the way] and we encountered a 'glacier' [slight exaggeration but it was definitely frozen snow!!] blocking our trail right at the 12,000 ft level - oddly enough, once we got past the 'glacier,' we didn't see any more snow or ice after that but it was really cold and windy along the ridgeline.

I've gone on other backpacks in different sections of the Sierra, usually the eastern side, during various times of year and all I can say is, you never know what the weather is going to be so prepare for anything!! I had a girlfriend who died on a Sierra peak in August one year when she lost her footing on frozen snow during a heavy windstorm and literally slid over a cliff - last year they were skiing at all the resorts during August - this year, the season has been sporadic and will probably be over by May at the latest.

I'm not trying to sound like the biggest expert of all time, just to help you prepare - take a variety of clothing for everything from 'heat wave' to 'freezing' - you don't have to pack the entire closet, just bring a few layers of polypropylene, fleece and either down or a synthetic jacket plus rain gear - you can actually take everything you need in one pack. Even if you plan to do a day-hike, take either an emergency-blanket type bivy sac or a light-weight sleeping bag and extra food/water [or water treatment] in case you have to stay over - there's a little hut at the top but even though it might keep the rain off, it won't keep the cold away - as my grandmother used to say, better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

If you can arrange an extra day or so, you can acclimate some on the trail - and there are also a LOT of other great places to hike if you don't get a pass in the lottery [although keep in mind there are also a lot of walk-up opportunities] - there are also plenty of sites to help you know what to take - bear canister for food, 'leave no trace' bags because you can't leave ANYTHING up there [yes, I mean you have to carry out THAT, too - just take a couple of dog-poop bags and TP, put it in a zip-lock or double zip-lock bags and you won't even know you have it with you!]

HAVE FUN!!!!! I wish I was in shape to join you but I'm afraid this is not the year for me to do that - maybe next year.........HAVE FUN!

Lynda in Orange County, So Calif

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3/16/12 11:21 A

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Thanks for the advise, I need all I can get! I have Mount Hood, Mt. Adams, and Mt. Rainier within weekend trip range, all above 10,000' (which is not to say I need to summit any of them as they all have permanent glaciers which I don't need to deal with for conditioning for the Whitney trip!) so as soon as the weather decides to cooperate, I'll be getting up into the mountains to try to get acclimated to the higher elevations. I had a work assignment in Colorado a couple of years ago and took some hikes in the 9,000' elevation, 5-8 mile day hike range. While the altitude sickness didn't get me, even at that elevation I could feel the thinner air weighing me down. It took a whole lot longer to do 8 miles at 1 1/2 miles elevation than it does where I live at 500' above sea level! We have put in our requests to the permit lottery for late July into August, so the weather ~should~ be OK. We will be taking the more leisurely southern route, not the quicker "mountaineering" route and we are both taking a week off of work just for this trip, so we are going to explore the area as we like. And we are both realistic and sensible enough to have the attitude of "If we make it, we make it, if we don't, we don't, it'll still be a great trip!"

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3/16/12 9:44 A

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Nice tips Lynda, altitude can really take the wind out of a hiker's sails! I've done Whitney twice, once as a "day" hike and once from the other side as a long backpack trip, both were quite rewarding and the experiences were quite different. You will have a wonderful challenge whichever way you go!

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3/15/12 10:47 P

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emoticon to the team and GOOD LUCK on your Mt Whitney climb - sounds like a fun trip! I've done a little bit of hiking myself and can tell you that your best bet to get ready for the trip is to get into higher elevation as much as you can for at least a few weeks before trying to climb Whitney - You can start getting into shape now by using a treadmill or stairclimber, even by just climbing up stairs inside if you have access to a building - whether you plan to do Whitney as a backpack or day hike, it's pretty tough and there is a LOT of climbing so the more you can get your legs used to that, the easier it will be.
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But please don't overlook what I said about the elevation conditioning - I don't know which mountains you might be able to access where you are but slowly acclimating to higher elevation will help you the most. I live very near sea level so have to re-train myself for mountains whenever I want to hike there - I'm ok up to about 7,000 ft elevation but I can really feel the effect above that - Whitney is above 14k so you should spend time above 10k, if possible try to go up that high at least once a week for a few weeks before your climb. Another thing to remember is drink water, drink water, drink water - a large percentage of the effects of elevation can be diminished by avoiding dehydration. GODO LUCK!!!
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Nice, thanks! I also do hope we get a change in this weather! We were very spoiled down here in January & February, I took my dog out for several good walks, but now March has been super wet and unusually cold. I'm pretty patient, though, so the better weather is coming!

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3/15/12 10:38 P

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Welcome!
I'm in Tacoma and hike every weekend.
I sure hope we get some better weather soon.

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Hello, all.
I have been a hiker/camper most of my life and am planning to get back into it this year, now that I've lost some of the excess weight I've been carrying around and my daughter is raised and starting to move onto her own life. I am 46 and I have a 23 y/o DD and 6 y/o Springer Spaniel who are my world! I have to say I am a fair weather outdoors woman, so most of the year, I am not up in the hills and mountains in my neck of the woods!

This year I have committed to taking a hiking/camping trip to Mt. Whitney, CA, with my brother and nephew, so I am going to begin training for that as soon as the weather warms up and the rain/snow slacks off. We had a really mild winter in the NW this year, but spring has more than made up for it, so all I can do is walk a few miles here and there when we get some breaks between storms.

Looking forward to hearing about all of the hiking adventures from others here and I'll do my best to report on my trips around SW Washington & NW Oregon!

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