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I'm looking forward to getting the GymBoss soon so that I can easily play around with some different intervals. My phone app can be set to do lots of different intervals, but it's kind of a slow process to set up so I don't create new sets very often. Plus the intervals are marked by an automated voice in my earbuds, which I find sort of annoying if it is too frequent. I think the buzz/beep is going to be less intrusive, and it will be more reliable to go by time instead of distance. A half-mile on a steep hill requires a lot more effort than a half-mile flat.

I also should probably re-read some of the Jeff Galloway suggestions about pacing. I am not a numbers person and don't really like running math, so I haven't gone back lately to time my magic mile, refigure a suggested pace, and then figured out the changes I should be making for heat. I'm not worried about my time at this point (just finishing :-), but I do like to keep a goal pace in mind, even if I'm not too strict about sticking to it.

Thanks for the info!

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7/8/14 9:46 P

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I use a variety of intervals, depending on distance and target pace. Since I try to maintain a consistent pace during the run segments (to develop running efficiency), I vary the the run/walk ratio to get the desired mile pace specified by the individual workout. So an easy run may be :30/:30, a tempo run :30/:10, speedwork :60/:10, long run :30/:40, etc.

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I alter my intervals, either longer or shorter, all the time--based on how I feel and/or the terrain (I'm thinking hills). The flexibility helps my state of mind on a long run and prevents fatigue at the end.

I like your statement about perceived effort--I'm not there yet, either, although it is a goal of mine down the line. ;-)

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Thanks! Everyone's feedback convinced me to give it a try. It is certainly a cheaper option than getting a running watch, although I still might consider that. I think a benefit of the GymBoss will be timing my walk breaks. I have been using my phone to track when I should take a walk break, but have not been timing the walk breaks for when to start my jog again. I try to be careful not to take short breaks in the beginning and longer in the end, but without timing them, I bet I'm not as consistent as I intend to be. I've found when trying to "sense" pace and distance that I am not a very good judge. Perceived effort is not an accurate way to measure a run, at least for me!

This week I returned to walk breaks even in my shorter runs. I think the week of running through the 3-4 milers without walk breaks helped. I was getting so used to my "standard" that I found myself feeling tired just before the break, I think just because my body was expecting it. A few runs of going past my usual break seemed to release that. Does anyone else alter intervals sometimes just so you don't get too accustomed to your "usual"?

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It might be overkill, but I sometimes clip mine (set on vibrate) to my GPS band. It's always set on vibrate--hard time hearing the beeps unless I'm alone--and I generally cannot feel it on the waist. I've also gotten used to just holding it and that worked out just fine my last half.

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I have clipped it to my visor in the past and had it on vibrate. That works. But after awhile I thought my brain cells were getting scrambled. LOL

Now I clip to to clothing. The alarm, for me, is loud enough to hear in almost all environments.

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Thanks, that info was very helpful. I didn't realize it had a clip. It would be much better to clip it on my waist than to bother with a wrist strap. I'll definitely consider this. Even if I also did a running watch, I could get a less expensive and less complicated one if I didn't need an interval timer on it. Or if I stay with my phone app, I wouldn't need to use headphones if I didn't need it for intervals. Thanks!

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It has a pretty loud beep that I have no problem hearing, except sometimes in races with very loud music. You can get a wrist strap. I usually set it to both beep and vibrate during a race. If the music is loud, I unclip it and carry it in my hand during the loud spots. It is easy to clip and unclip from your clothes. I usually wear it on my waist band or fuel belt. But I have also been known to clip it to my visor just behind my ear. It is small and not heavy. It can be set to any combination of intervals you want and is easy to reset during a run.

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Aha! Just found an earlier topic about various GPS watches, and see now that many of you use a GPS watch for distance and pace, but the GymBoss for interval pacing. At just $20 that makes some sense. I have been doing half-mile intervals because my app will beep on the distance. It can also do time intervals, but it takes a bit of time to configure the time intervals if you are varying your distance and have to reset them all the time. So beeping on a standard distance is easier. Getting a separate interval timer sounds like a good idea ... Can you hear/feel it even in a noisy environment? Is there an option other than getting the wrist strap? How else would you carry it and be able to hear/feel it?

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So it looks like the Gymboss only times intervals? Do you use something else to track distance or pace?

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I, too, use a Gymboss. It is an interval timer. Easy to change during a walk break if you want to change your interval.

There are two kinds.
I have the mini-Max and although does a few more things - is really not necessary.

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I use the Gymboss timer, as do many others on this team. In a long race, it is useful to take walk breaks before you need them to preserve your legs. Once they are tired, you can't go back. Often times taking walk breaks by feel means waiting until the legs are tired. That can back fire on very long runs.

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Thanks for the advice. I would definitely do my training without my app if I decide not to bring it along in the race. I'm thinking about getting a running watch/timer instead of using my phone app. I cannot hear it reliably without headphones in, but don't like to wear headphones when running on roads or with a group for safety and social reasons. Also my phone app quits on me now and then, which is frustrating. Still have two months to my race, but I'll make a decision soon so I can have several long training runs before the race. Any additional thoughts or advice are appreciated!

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As a general rule, it's not a good idea to do something in a race that you don't do in training, and that applies to clothing, shoes, nutrition, as well as walk breaks. I'd use whatever method you use in your long runs when it comes to the race. That is what your body is being trained to expect.

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i use both. i was garmin-free during winter in hawaii, and went by feel - i ran from fire hydrant to fire hydrant, then walked to the next, etc.

now i have a garmin again (the 220, i love it), and it is set for 30/30 intervals, which i find very comfortable. if i'm going downhill i keep going; sometimes i'll take a walk break in the middle of a long downhill, but not the full 30 seconds. uphill, if i can do the 30-30 i'm thrilled, if not i walk an extra.

so it's a little of each, but i do like the buzzer of the 30 seconds to tell me to change.

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I have been using the Jeff Galloway method for a but a year now. Have done 5k and 10k training plans, and now am working on a half-marathon for a race at the end of August. Love this method because I have had an achy knee in the past but no issues since I used this method. However, I find the short intervals tedious, so I do half mile and then a 1-2 minute walk, depending on the length of the run. The longer running intervals don't make me faster, but I just find it easier to get in a "groove" instead of too many starts and stops, but I add more frequent walk breaks in the heat or when I add distance and am feeling it at the end. I have started not taking walk breaks on 3-5 mile runs. Gin, it doesn't make me faster, but it makes the long runs with walk breaks feel easier. Up to my 13 mile distance for my half now, and will continue adding some extra miles in hopes of feeling strong at the half marathon race. Just curious, do most others use an electronic timer, or just "feel" when you need a walk break? I use RunTastic Pro on my phone for training, but generally not in races. Trying to decide wether to use my phone app in the half.

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