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The best cure for stressing is to count your blessings...and a long walk won't hurt either!

Never give up what you want the MOST for what you want at the MOMENT!


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None of these people are still active on the team or mostly not even on Spark People but I was reading the thread it thought it was a good one to pull forward. Some helpful stuff in here!

The best cure for stressing is to count your blessings...and a long walk won't hurt either!

Never give up what you want the MOST for what you want at the MOMENT!


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Karly - Hi!

Carol gave you a really good answer.

I created this team because I felt so isolated and as if I were the only hoarder in the world. My head told me this couldn't be true. I reached out, hoping others like me could connect, share, and support each other. None of us are therapists. We just share our experiences.

A couple of things you might want to consider...

This team is very supportive and can be there for you. To do that, we need to hear what we can do to support you.

It helps to share. Most of us feel overwhelmed as we begin to face the challenges hoarding gives us. Letting go of our stuff, not acquiring new stuff, and realizing this is a daily habit we need to create. We don't have to be perfect. We just have to start. Baby steps.

Hope to hear from you soon : )

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I got my timer, AND, I actually sorted and put away a whole pile of stuff I'd allowed to toss up all over the living room. I bet a whole bin worth is put away. now that's not to say I GAVE it away.

It's sewing stuff and right now my goal is organizing so I can go through one category at a time and prioritize. So, I did get it sorted and put away, and the LR feels so much better. I still have about half of the LR to do. I'm happy...So FAR, but I won't be really happy til the LR is livable, and woe is me, that means the CD's and the Computer clutter as well.

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Thanks for the answer...

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Karly, the first step is to recognize the problem. Than you take it day by day, baby step by baby step doing what you can to control it. There is no cure, like all addictions we can only control it & realize we will have bad days. We are here for each other. Let us know how we can help. Carol

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9/26/10 12:45 P

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I grew up with a mother HOARDING...All my life...Now she is gone and it was passed on to me....HELP ...Now do you brake this spell...????????
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8/30/10 9:58 A

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yes, that's my goal, to start putting in a small block of time, and using a timer is a good point too. I sometimes wonder if we all don't have ADD. I've always known I was scatterbrained. LOL

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I have ADD and either get distracted or hyper-focused to the point where I lose track or sense of time. I need to set an alarm to not get lost in the things I have to take care of. Either way, work on it each day.

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Hi, Joe, I'm new to this list too, but not new to Flylady.

I so empathize with all you've said. I will say that when I start on a box or project, I may go good for a while but I have to put the brakes on when I start putting everything into the save pile. whether that point comes at five minutes or 15 I know I'm done for a while.

And tea, they now say, has calming chemicals in it so grab a cup and take a break before trying to tackle another Hotspot.

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How's the progress going? Any new things tossed? :)

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Hi--Boy, me too. Hope you are doing ok.

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Joe, My situation is not much different than yours, except I share my home with two other clutterer-hoarder-messie types. It got much worse over the 4 year period that I worked full time night shift.

It's embarrassing for me, as well as the rest of my family members. I need to do something about this, but every previous attempt has failed. I'm hoping that the support of this forum will help.

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7/7/10 6:42 A

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Joe -

Sounds like you are off to a good start. How is the timer working out for you? Are you making headway or keeping up using 15 minutes?

We are all stuff-challenged, so to speak. We all hoard or are severe clutterers - not just a pile here and there.
Some have been working on it a long time and others are just beginning to admit to themselves they hoard. I call that coming out of the closet into the light.

We have several approaches between us, but have four things in common.

One is the challenge of simply starting, whether it be a pile, a chair, a corner, or an area.

Second is to create achievable, measureable mini-goals... or, as many say, baby steps.
You use a timer.
I use 30+ minutes, a pile, a box, a pound, or a bag of stuff.
I've tried doing less than 30 minutes, but I can only begin to keep up with my stuff. When I do 30+ minutes, I can begin to see progress and it is easier to stay motivated.
One goal we often forget to cover is minimizing acquisitions so we don't have even more stuff to deal with.

Third is consistancy.
To truly manage hoarding, we have to do something every single day.
On a physically challenging day, it could be to deal with the day's mail and email or the dishes, if you can get to your sink.
For me starting and being consistant over a period of time are the two biggest challenges.

Fourth is accountability through connection. The Obstacles and Progress topic is the main area we use for both.

I started this group because I feel overwhelmed by all my stuff. There are several groups about organizing clutter and cleaning, but none addressing hoarding. I thought - surely I can't be alone in seeing clutter or messy are understatements.

Forgive my diatribes. I get going and have trouble getting off the soap box to share in a more personal way.

We have a great group and I'm glad to have you join us.
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Good morning, and Thank you all for your Replies and Welcomes!

I just returned from a walk to the mailbox, getting the blood flowing, moving creaky joints and enjoying the sunshine and cool air. Feeling good helps to keep in motion!

Debie, I have to accept that this is a slow process, learning new habits, just like the weight loss/fitness process - I like your idea of vision boards - visualizing is a powerful tool. I like your webpage - we have a nearby ranch that is rescuing PMU mares - a reward for getting my house in order is to volunteer to help socialize these magnificent creatures - I miss my horses.

Lynn, thank you for noticing my quote - I should read it several times a day, until it is deeply imbedded in my subconscious.

Karen, thank you for recommending "Obstacles and Progress", I'll check it out.

Carol, you're right, small steps make up a journey - another post I read today on organizing, stated that Rule #1 is to start small, but start!

I made some progress yesterday, and as I had hoped, it was motivating and got me in motion today to tackle some more.

Thank you all for your support.

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Welcome Joe.

That first step is the hardest. You can do it. It can be just a bitty baby step. Using the timer sounds like a good idea. Maybe start simple with doing dishes or clearing a couple of items off the counter. I try to clean each room for about 15 mins each day but I don't use a timer just clean with glancing at the clock. I do use a timer sometimes when I exercise to make sure I get the amount I want that day. Making a plan on paper is a good idea, also setting small goals so you can see some progress. Carol

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emoticon Joe!

I think that most of the activity on this team is in the "Obstacles and Progress" discussion. We all try to work in baby steps and support each other when we make progress and when we don't. You've got a good plan with using the timer.

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Hello Joe -

You have a great quote and it could work well for you when you choose to begin.

To my knowledge, none of us are therapists here. We share our experiences, our concerns, progress, and resources regarding hoarding/clutter.

What appears to be evident is those who make a commitment to work on letting go of their stuff and follow through with action on a daily basis are more likely to manage their hoarding.

Welcome ro our team: Hoarding - More Than Simple Clutter.

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Hi Joe - you are describing my house, my thoughts, my life. Wow, you are not the only one - my brother had to help me clear some sand out of my waterlines and is now freaking about how I live (OK, lets not dwell on the fact that his psyco GF is in a drug & alcohol induced stuppor and currently threatening to blow his brains out while he is sleeping).

For me, this will be a slow process (similar to weightloss and healthy living) where I have to learn new habits. I have made a vision board with beautiful pictures of clean rooms - I'm going to make some more and put one in each room - as the current one sets in the bathroom (now the cleanest room in the house).

I've also been toying with a point system to reward myself for cleaning; something like one bag of stuff out = 5 points, a box = 10 points... reach 100 points and I get to buy a new dress or piece of jewelry? I've been listing some things on Craigslist too, slow and I'm rarely disappointed if something doesn't sell, now I need to take the non-sell items to the Goodwill.

Welcome to the team. - Debie

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Hoarder, Clutterer, it doesn't matter any more - it's OUT OF CONTROL!

I am "living" in total CHAOS (Can't Have Anyone Over Syndrome). If anyone saw the inside of my "home", they would have it condemned, and have me committed!

The disorder has put me into a deep depression, making it very difficult to get into motion to address anything - counseling/therapy is out of the question, as I am on the brink of bankruptcy, living barely from payday to payday.

I made a plan on the first, to address just a few problems for this month - so far, I have done nothing! Well, I HAVE made some lists - don't need any more lists, they are just escapism. Well, tomorrow is another day(off).

I've read through a few of the threads - I'd like to subscribe to one or two for support and ideas - any suggestions?

My computer runs so slow on a dial-up connection, that I can spend an entire day just managing my e-mail. That's a great avoidance behavior to escape facing the mess.

Most of my immediate issues are fairly simple tasks to deal with - basic housekeeping, dealing with clutter - the hoarding issues will come in time.

Living alone is a mixed blessing - no one complains about my mess, and the kitty enjoys exploring the junk piles - but there is no motive to clear the clutter - it will wait until it clears itself - LOL!

Tomorrow, I will use the timer on 15 minute intervals (and flog myself into action with a bullwhip), and hope that some progress will build some momentum.

Any hints and support would be most welcome.

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