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4/15/16 4:18 P

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Hi everyone! I'm new to this forum and to SP! I'm not signed up for a HM. But I did sign up for a 10 miler that is in 2 weeks. - The Phila Broad Street Run!! And I'm SUPER NERVOUS!!! tomorrow I'm doing a practice run - 9.5 miles and my stomach is twisting in knots. I went out running with my friend last night and she said my stride was WAY too short that I was too tall to be running with such short strides and I need to open up my stride. So I'm going to be working on opening up my stride tomorrow as well as seeing how I do running for 9.5 miles. any advice would be appreciate and prayers too!!!

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3/14/16 6:11 P

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I suspect the core problem is that there wasn't a lot of "think" happening. I'm blaming daylight savings time and chalking this up to lesson learned (I hope...).

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3/13/16 9:59 P

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You ran 12.5 miles without drinking anything?! And didn't eat beforehand? How on earth did you think that could end well? :-P


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3/13/16 9:28 P

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Today was my last long training run, came out to 12.5 miles. After I got home and showered I threw up which was kind of scary, I know it's common for runners to puke but I never had that happen to me before (except once when I was a teenager playing tennis in 90+ degree heat), also seemed weird that I was fine during the run and even made it through a shower before getting sick. I'm sure I was just dehydrated, I didn't eat before the run and didn't drink during the run, had planned to guzzle several gallons of water after finishing but just had a little seltzer and went about my business, bad planning all around, plus due to sleeping really late and the time change, I went out a lot later than I had planned, anyway blah blah blah but it was kind of a bummer, although also maybe a good wakeup call that I have to take hydration seriously at these distances. Also I sprinted the last few blocks to beat traffic lights which probably didn't help either. Other than, you know, barfing my guts out, felt pretty good about the run, kept the chafing to a minimum and felt like it was all as close to "easy" as it could be, helped that it was coolish and overcast.

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1/31/16 11:08 P

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Uuuugh I wrote a big huge post which disappeared, then I wrote a condensed version which also disappeared. So short version: had a great 13 mile training run today so feeling super confident, hope I can bottle this for race day, chafing issues (mostly around waistband of pants and sportsbra band) under control at least today with help from tons of vaseline plus big (like 2"X3" square shaped type) bandaids anchored down with first aid tape. Thanks everyone!

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1/27/16 6:53 P

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I would add to all of the great advice here, is to consider run/walk intervals. It's known as the Jeff Galloway method.I've done all different types but find that 2:1 (run 2min, walk 1) is a good one for me. I've found that it doesn't make much difference in my time, and I'm very slow, too, but it does make a difference in how I feel and whether I get injured. I'm doing 3 halfs before April and am up to 9 miles for my long runs on Saturday.


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1/27/16 5:56 P

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It might be helpful to explain where you are chafing. I have experimented with different things for different places. There is no perfect solution. Weather and of course, clothing also play a role.

With all due respect to Moby, I've tried vaseline on my toes and not found it the best choice. It spreads too easily - just rubbing off my toes and getting absorbed by my socks which get gooey.

Now I carry a tiny tube of aquaphor with me but consider it a preparation failure if I have to resort to it. That said, I have found that in very hot weather (80-90F), the bodyglide between my thighs just doesn't last for 13M. Some people claim bodyglide has changed its formulation recently and I wonder about that too. So I've also been trying other things people have recommended. I've also tried:

Trail Toes (cream)
2Toms Sport Shield (roll-on)
Trislide (spray)
Aquaphor (ointment)
Band-aids
Bodyglide
and of course, the generics: moleskin, toe covers, and vaseline

I guess it's my pet project to avoid chafing. :-P

One other anecdote: Twice I have been out on a long run and had unexpected chafing under my foot. Maybe it was because I also like to try out new socks :-P Anyway, I kept running until I found a mylar candy bar wrapper and stuck that in the appropriate place inside my sock. It gave me a nice slippery surface and stopped further irritation.

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1/8/16 4:13 P

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Thanks Moby, I had tried vaseline and body glide which usually work great for me but after a certain amount of time (say 10k) they wore off. Went to the doctor today who scolded me for putting tape on myself and said to use Vaseline and I was like, but it wears off, and she was like, that's why you carry it with you. So... I'm feeling pretty stupid right about now, going to invest in a small tube of vaseline that I can carry in my flip belt. No idea why it never occurred to me to take it with me, especially when I am already toting around a phone, keys, credit card, cash, mp3 player (separate from phone), and sometimes MetroCard.

Have a 10k tomorrow which I think will be my "long run" for this week due to being a bit under the weather plus duct tape wounds are still healing, then maybe see if I can pull off 13.1 over MLK Jr. weekend, if I'm feeling up to it.

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1/3/16 7:12 P

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If you can do 12.78 miles by GPS, you can do a half marathon.

For chafing, many runners swear by BodyGlide. I've never tried it; generic petroleum jelly works for me. I use petroleum jelly on my feet and on my chest where the heart rate monitor goes; but you basically use it wherever you've been chafed, to let the skin move smoothly instead of rubbing.


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1/3/16 3:48 P

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Woot woot, did 12.78 (according to my phone GPS) today, last mile was kind of agonizing but not feeling too bad 2 hours later, not sure how I'll feel tomorrow. Biggest issue is chafing, tried duct tape today but it was prolly worse than nothing at all. Not really sure where to go from here, not the end of the world but really an annoyance when doing anything over about 6 miles. Pace was pretty good for me, super slow for most people but not much different from my 10k pace.

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12/18/15 4:00 P

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Thanks for the thoughtful advice! Luckily (?) I already run insanely slow (some people might even say it's not really running so much as loping, or slogging, or trotting, but any rate it's not walking - I think I can actually walk faster or almost as fast as I run, and I've been passed in races by non-racers walking their dogs/pushing their babies). My all time fastest pace, by a long shot, was about 10:30 in a one-mile "dash." (VIKINGSFAN - I would be overjoyed if I could do a 9 min mile! Last time I was anywhere close to that was probably junior high!)

Right now I think my BHAG would be to do the half without having to walk any of it, and my A Goal would be to make under 13:00/mi. pace, but we'll see what happens in the next couple of months.

I did 9.5 this morning and felt pretty good about it, the major drawback to how slow I run is time, cuz it takes me almost 2 hours to run that far which means that to run any further than that I will have to get up at 5 am... which is almost as tough as the actual "running," for me!

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12/17/15 5:45 P

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Thank you! Great advice I will definitely use!

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12/15/15 4:20 P

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@LYLAGARRITY - My best advice for injury avoidance is, run slow. Your major objective at this point is to build the distance you are capable of. If you can get a couple of good, slow 13 mile runs between now and the half, that will give you some confidence. Just don't get too cocky about how fast you can run that far. You can't run a half as fast as you can run a 15K.

@VIKINGSFAN42 - Think slow. You can't run a long race as fast as you run a short race. Your 10K pace should be a bit slower than your 5K pace, your 15K pace a bit slower than your 10K pace, and your half marathon pace a bit slower yet. If you have identified a 9 minute mile as a good pace for your 5K, trying to get to a 9 minute average in a half marathon is a recipe for getting injured. And that becomes even more striking when you start focusing on a full marathon.

The game changes between a 10K and a half marathon, and it changes again between a half marathon and a full marathon. Many people, including myself, could manage to get to the 10K distance just by running. Some can get to the half marathon distance that way; I couldn't. I got injured trying to do it that way, twice. The third time through I got some training, and was taught to slow down. Most. Important. Thing. Ever.

Seriously, learn to run slower than you can. Then run most of your non-race miles slow, and all of your long runs slow. It's important for avoiding injury. Yes, all the apps say "best pace" for the fastest you run. It's a lie. Fastest is not always best.

Later, after you develop the capability to run farther than a half marathon, you may be able to introduce some faster running (carefully structured for training) on long runs. But to get to your first half, and especially to get to your first full marathon, run the long runs slow. Time enough to run fast for distance on race day; there are no medals for training runs.


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12/15/15 11:12 A

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started training, but needing advice for for my path. I am starting with running 5K's every week and working to getting a 9 minute mile pace, then will bump up to 10K's until I get that to 9 minute mile pace. Then go to 15K, etc. etc.
Any thoughts? Any anything I should add? My goal is my first full marathon in October.
I joined a running group and that is helping me push for PR's each week. emoticon

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12/15/15 9:57 A

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Congrats on getting into the NYC Half!

My advice is just to do the best you can with the time you have before the race. So you can't lose 30-40 pounds. Maybe you can lose five or ten in that time. If you can do a 15 K you can do the half especially with 13 weeks left.

Be realistic with what you can do and fit into your schedule and pick a realistic goal. I've had good results from setting multiple goals. A BHAG: Big Hairy Audacious Goal that would be amazing if I hit (never have but come very close). An A Goal: Realistic but tough to hit (usually a PR or course PR). A B Goal: Usually something like Master's All American Status (finish in an OK but not really good time). A C Goal: Having a Bad day. A D Goal: Just finish the darn thing. And an F goal: Fail to finish. So far I've hit either A or B goals in every half. I set the BHAG about a month or so out and the rest kind of fall into place as I get near the race.

And then I publish them on social media a few days before the race so I can't fudge my results with others. This works for me.

I've never had a perfect half yet. I am either tired from something out of my control, or got sick right before a crucial long distance run or work stress goes through the roof. Or the wind is 20 MPH in my face the whole way. Or it snows. Or the course is long. Or no one is manning the last water stop. Or whatever.

Have fun and enjoy the experience. You'll do fine and have a blast and you're going to accomplish something that the majority of people don't bother to get up off the couch and do...

I'll be pulling for you!

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12/13/15 12:14 A

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Way to go on your 15k today. I'm trying to get motivated to start training again so your post was inspiring! Thanks

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12/12/15 1:39 P

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Started running 2010, ran a 15k in 2011 then put on a lot of weight in 2011-2013 (and I was pretty heavy to start with) and basically quit running in the course of events, started up again last year and ran my first 10 mile (longest distance to date) a couple months ago which I finished in a decent time (for me) but it really threw me for a loop, took me a very long time to recover (I had thought I was pretty well prepared).

A couple of weeks ago, on a total whim, I entered the drawing for the NYC Half thinking I'd never get in and also almost immediately regretting it since I just feel like I'm still too heavy for that kind of a distance, not to mention my first love is tennis which I do not want to give up or cut back on to make room for training, and lo and behold I got into the NYC Half. I'm pretty excited about it, it's 14 weeks away and I'm looking forward to the challenge.

Today I had a 15k race which I was anxious about since I really haven't done many long training runs since the 10 mile, but it went much better than I expected, my time was not quite as good as I hoped (but still pretty good, and 22 minutes better than the 15k I ran in 2011), but more importantly I felt pretty good, strong and confident throughout the run and made it home without much regret, might not be feeling so hot later on/tomorrow but not nearly as miserable as I felt after the 10 mile, prolly helped that it was familiar terrain and perfect weather.

So I am feeling a lot more optimistic about the half given that I was able to make it through the 15k today without too much misery. Just a bit concerned about balancing my training schedule with tennis, not to mention running at long distances at my current weight (I'm 5'4"/198/F). I had always had a goal of running a half but thought I would do it after dropping another 30-40 pounds, whenever that may come to pass, but now it's looking like that's probably not going to happen in the next 14 weeks.

Sooooo... any guidance/suggestions/whatnot would help, I'm really not concerned with my speed at all at this point, just want to train without injuring myself and be able to complete the half without feeling like I'm gonna die, or even worse chickening out. But I'm looking forward to the challenge and excited to run through Times Square!

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