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12/16/08 8:27 P

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It sounds like you are one of the lucky few whose bodies respond by the book!

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12/2/08 3:45 P

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Well, I have never heard of this so called type 1.5. and neither has my doctor and it was never mentioned by my nurse at the health unit. I am not one to believes there is anything such as a "on the fence" or "borderline" diabetic. You are either one or not and as such, you are either a type 1 or a type 2. Type 2, yes, is due highly to a poor diet and lifestyle, but type 1 is hereditary. For the record and to address some of those stating otherwise, I was diagnosed type 2 and 4 days later with type 1. Doctors and the Health units (diabetic unit) believe I am one of the rare cases where my health fought of the decease for years. I was always healthy, I've never caught a cold, have always been active and very physical. I only gained weight a few years ago after a knee injury. I am now 220 and will be 185 again someday. My glucose levels were through the roof and have gained control of them finally this past 5 days, keeping my levels between 4.5 and 7. For those who think it can't be done, your wrong. I have chosen to eat a more healthy diet, more than before because I choose not to have this decease beat me. I've taken control. I have cheated but I know the consequence. I ate a Burger King and experimented by eating a Whopper and small fries. My glucose shot up to 12.8 and 2 1/2 hours later it returned to 6.3. Diet is everything. If you want to eat like your have always ate or the way most others do then you can, but you are opening yourself to complications of diabetes. Anyone that does not believe they have to change are still in denial or delusional.
I have no doubt there are many here that are extremely knowledgeable, but have also seen quite lot that contradict themselves, and I imagine you know who you are. I Have been Type 1 for a long time, but only treating it for 1 month. I've already gained control and will live to see my grandchildren, "see" them, and "walk and hold their hands." and I've not read everything, I don't claim to be an expert on diabetes, but by the sounds of it I've accomplished what a lot haven't.
I don't mean to sound like I'm venting on everyone, because I am not. I'm just truly tired of these certain people that appear to be walking encyclopedia's yet practice nothing that they preach.

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12/2/08 10:52 A

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Hubby did get sick very suddenly. Although, in retrospect, he has had symptoms of fluctuating blood sugar levels off and on for four years; random glucose tests have always been normal. A month ago a test came back at 28 (that's over 500 for the Americans out there) and he got the diagnosis of Type 2 then, but a week on pills did nothing to lower his numbers so he was re-diagnosed as Type 1.

...Pam

Edited by: PRAIRIEDAWNPAM at: 12/2/2008 (10:52)
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12/2/08 12:23 A

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One of the key differences though between 1 and 1.5 is the speed with which it happens. The end result is the same, both end up on insulin but the 1.5s get a longer slower period before their pancreases totally quit on them. Type 1 happens much more suddenly (like within weeks, not months or years) so its easier to figure out, but with the long slow decline of pancreas function in 1.5 its a lot easier to misdiagnose as type 2 because BG is high, but not as high as a type 1 and it can sometimes be treated (although poorly and not forever) with type 2 drugs. If you give some of the 2 drugs to a 1, nothing happens.
Hence the term 1.5, because it has (initially) symptoms and characteristics of 1 and 2.

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12/1/08 4:42 P

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From what I'm understanding, "1.5" and "LADA" are terms given to adults that are diagnosed as Type 1. Usually they are misdiagnosed as Type 2 because of their age. Fewer than 1% of adults over 30 are who are diagnosed as diabetics are diagnosed as Type 1. I think there is some benefit to calling these folks "1.5" or "LADA", if for no other reason than to identify themselves as NEWBIES who have Type 1.

...Pam

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- Complete a super-sprint triathlon
- Look good in a bikini

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"Do good, live healthy and become significant!"

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12/1/08 3:57 P

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I guess I have been one of those puzzles. My family doc said I was a type 2, my specialist said type 1.5 and dietician said 1.5, producing no insulin. Actually I have got it at age 38 and have had it for 20 years. Just now learning about carb counting and it has helped, still learning. Glad to see others with type 1.5. My grandson was just diagnosed with type 1 and I spoke to his doctor and she said she never heard of type 1.5. So I think this is relatively new, isn't it?

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PRAIRIEDAWNPAM's Photo PRAIRIEDAWNPAM Posts: 8,631
12/1/08 3:54 P

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The belief is that my hubby, Type 1 at age 38, lost the insulin-producing cells in his pancreas slower than most Type 1s.

...Pam

Sparking and living a South Beach Diet lifestyle since October 15 2007!

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- Complete a super-sprint triathlon
- Look good in a bikini

MY MANTRA:
"Do good, live healthy and become significant!"

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12/1/08 3:40 P

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As I understand it Type 1's we produce no insulin after onset and dawn phenomoanon but type 2's produce some but not enough. there is a gene I believe we type 1's have it is called the GAD I believe type 2's don't have it.

"you CAN do ALL things through Christ which STRENGTHENS you"
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I don't believe in failure.

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11/29/08 8:11 P

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www.diabetesnet.com/diabetes_types/w
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Type 1 is sudden-onset, occurs most frequently in children and young adults, involves no insulin production and is always treated with insulin right from the start.
Type 2 usually comes on over time, is most commonly found in older or overweight adults and is marked by insulin-resistance even in the face of excess insulin production. Treatment usually involves diet and exercise and drugs that increase insulin sensitivity. Insulin is rarely ever a first line of treatment.
Type 1.5 is a combination of the two, usually occurring in adults and develops slowly over a long period of time. While insulin resistance may be a small part of what's going on, there is also reduced insulin production.

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PRAIRIEDAWNPAM's Photo PRAIRIEDAWNPAM Posts: 8,631
11/26/08 9:15 P

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I'm still learning, but I understand that adults who are newly diagnosed as Type 1 diabetics are sometimes called "Type 1.5". Adults are often misdiagnosed as Type 2. LADA stands for Latent Autoimmune Diabetes in Adults.

Hubby was diagnosed as Type 2 -- both his parents were diagnosed as Type 2 in their 50s and his grandmother was Type 1 -- but that diagnosis changed to Type 1 because he didn't respond to oral medications and his BGs are very high.

...Pam

Edited by: PRAIRIEDAWNPAM at: 11/26/2008 (23:33)
Sparking and living a South Beach Diet lifestyle since October 15 2007!

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-Return to my goal weight
- Complete a super-sprint triathlon
- Look good in a bikini

MY MANTRA:
"Do good, live healthy and become significant!"

CO-LEADER SOUTH BEACH DIET TEAM


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11/26/08 8:07 P

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Hi Pam-

I was diagnosed in sept of '07 at age 33. what do you mean by type 1.5.

I'm sorry to hear about your husband. This is a great team! Everyone here is so helpful.

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PRAIRIEDAWNPAM's Photo PRAIRIEDAWNPAM Posts: 8,631
11/26/08 4:47 P

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Hi all

My hubby, ITSCOREY, is newly diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes at age 38. He's overwhelmed, frustrated, depressed. I'm here to learn more about diabetes so that I can support him.

On the upside, I have been following the South Beach Diet here on Sparkpeople for over a year. I know how to count carbs and read food labels. I know which foods are high-fiber and low in sugar. He's picked up a bit, too, over time, so we have less of a learning curve on the diet. The coach and dietician that we saw last week gave the diet two thumbs up for Hubby. He's not happy that he has no choice but to eat "my way", though. He's missing sweets.

Anyhow, I thought I'd say "hi" and see if there are any other late-onset Type 1 adults out there. Maybe ITSCOREY will join later when he's ready.


...Pam

Edited by: PRAIRIEDAWNPAM at: 11/26/2008 (16:54)
Sparking and living a South Beach Diet lifestyle since October 15 2007!

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-Return to my goal weight
- Complete a super-sprint triathlon
- Look good in a bikini

MY MANTRA:
"Do good, live healthy and become significant!"

CO-LEADER SOUTH BEACH DIET TEAM


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