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3/1/10 1:15 P

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Hello all- I'm new to this team and have really enjoyed reading this post. I became a Christian about ten years ago and shortly after I decided that I wanted to be a vegetarians. I was surprised at how attacked I was!! Just like you JHello, people told me that I was disobeying God's word, it's silly to be a vegetarian, God told Peter to rise- kill and eat, Jesus feed the masses with fish... blah blah blah. At the time, I let all the talk weigh me down and I caved and didn't make the change.

Over the last ten years I secretly wanted to be a vegetarian but I remembered what I went through ten years ago and just didn't have the courage to do it again. During the past two years I fasted meat (not eggs and cheese)for 40 day and felt AMAZING after the fast. In all fairness, that could be because I was fasting and drawing closer to Him, or it could be the absence of meat, or both. Either way, I'm willing to try again.

Now, I'm 31 years old and don't care as much what people think of me and I'm ready to make the change. I don't know that I believe it's wrong or an un-Christian thing to do if you're a meat eater. Currently, I am a meat eater and I'm completely in love with God and He with me. However, I'm a softy and can't stand to see a hurting animal. I can't even watch those undercover shows that go into the slaughter houses. Even doing research on becoming a vegan has been difficult... weeding through the awful pictures is tough. And, my choice isn't just based on cruelty, it's based on health. All the crud they pump into animals (which is cruel but if you didn't care about animals the stuff they are given wouldn't bother you) has a terrible effect on our bodies. America has the most cancers, most heart problems, most diabetics, most obesity than any other country and it's America that has the worst food system.

Anyway... all that babbling to say, I don't know that being a vegetarian is the "right" thing to do but it is the right thing for me. :)

Ahhh, I think this rambling was all about helping me sort through my own thoughts. :)

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Hello all- I'm new to this team and have really enjoyed reading this post. I became a Christian about ten years ago and shortly after I decided that I wanted to be a vegetarians. I was surprised at how attacked I was!! Just like you JHello, people told me that I was disobeying God's word, it's silly to be a vegetarian, God told Peter to rise- kill and eat, Jesus feed the masses with fish... blah blah blah. At the time, I let all the talk weigh me down and I caved and didn't make the change.

Over the last ten years I secretly wanted to be a vegetarian but I remembered what I went through ten years ago and just didn't have the courage to do it again. During the past two years I fasted meat (not eggs and cheese)for 40 day and felt AMAZING after the fast. In all fairness, that could be because I was fasting and drawing closer to Him, or it could be the absence of meat, or both. Either way, I'm willing to try again.

Now, I'm 31 years old and don't care as much what people think of me and I'm ready to make the change. I don't know that I believe it's wrong or an un-Christian thing to do if you're a meat eater. Currently, I am a meat eater and I'm completely in love with God and He with me. However, I'm a softy and can't stand to see a hurting animal. I can't even watch those undercover shows that go into the slaughter houses. Even doing research on becoming a vegan has been difficult... weeding through the awful pictures is tough. And, my choice isn't just based on cruelty, it's based on health. All the crud they pump into animals (which is cruel but if you didn't care about animals the stuff they are given wouldn't bother you) has a terrible effect on our bodies. America has the most cancers, most heart problems, most diabetics, most obesity than any other country and it's America that has the worst food system.

Anyway... all that babbling to say, I don't know that being a vegetarian is the "right" thing to do but it is the right thing for me. :)

Ahhh, I think this rambling was all about helping me sort through my own thoughts. :)

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2/23/10 5:33 P

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Hi JHello,

I'm new to this site, and have been a vegetarian in the South for about a year now. It's been...interesting to say the least. One of the things I've learned through the process of becoming vegetarian is that for many, many people food can be the center of their culture. Sometimes, family members can feel like you're rejecting your upbringing/them when you no longer eat meat even though this isn't the case.

Thankfully, my parents ate a lot of vegetarian dishes but I've gotten a lot of comments from my boyfriend's family on the issue. I tried to maintain a sense of humor along the lines of "Well, that just means you don't have to share with me! :)" when we visited for Thanksgiving and it worked pretty well.

But, I agree with many of the posters here. I feel that we were given dominion over creation not to use it to our own advantage, but to be stewards.

Good luck at your next family gathering! :)

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1/8/10 12:10 P

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I was telling my husband about our conversation last night at dinner (he eats meat). He thought the whole thing was completely ridiculous. He couldn't understand how people would be mad about another person' choices towards compassionate living unless they had some sort of guilt they were carrying on their own. There are so many worse things we could be doing--and this is what people focus on? He gets really upset by it (one of the reasons why he left the church was because of people like this and how they interfere with his ability to be closer to God).

This is why we are here--to support each other. Everything we do helps the earth and animals just a little bit more...
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Every bit of organic you do will help!
Why do Christians forget that we are supposed to LOVE each other? Will people know we are Christians by our love if we are being mean about someone's compassionate choices!
Again - so happy for this team!

~Beth~

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1/7/10 7:46 P

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I have to say, vegetarian boards like this are the only place that I can turn. I am getting so discouraged by people that I thought were my friends.... and about organics, too. they were like, "well, you can't pick and choose when you want to be organic. if you go to a restaurant you can't get organic so that means you're not really committed."

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1/7/10 6:20 P

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Yes - thank you!
As always, it is good to know I am not alone!

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1/7/10 4:29 P

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There's just nothing funny about it. If someone was a diabetic, would they crack jokes about the diabetic avoiding sugar? Or would that be considered tasteless?

I know there are a lot of us out there who believe in God and don't eat meat; I think there are a lot of us though who have shied away from the traditional church and focus on celebrating God in our own way just because of the false Christians.

Well, Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us, right?

So, on a positive note, let's choose to forgive them in their ignorance and know we are following God's heart. emoticon

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I think they thought they were being funny. It has actually happened twice - once by the associate pastor and once by the pastor. Who is also my boss, I am the church secretary.
I was becoming so discouraged - thinking we were the only Christian Vegetarians in the world. SO HAPPY TO HAVE THIS SPARK TEAM!!!!!

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1/7/10 3:23 P

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Thanks for the welcome!! Yeah, people are crazyy!

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Oh my goodness...I cannot believe the amount of abuse you two have endured. It is completely ridiculous that someone would YELL at you for NOT killing something or that a pastor would single you out during a sermon--HOW DO THEY JUSTIFY THAT? What part of that is acting like a good Christian? What part of humiliating a person or being mean is following Jesus' footsteps?

GAH! This is what drives me crazy. When people pull stunts like this, it just reaffirms my love for animals. What animal would do this? Animals are better able to act compassionately than some people.

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Welcome JHElloKitty! And congrats on the Vegetarian Lifestyle!

I have also had many Christians accuse me of "being in a cult" or not obeying God by not eating animals! Oddly, recently my pastor even made fun of me DURING A SERMON while I was sitting right there. I think it odd, that Christians would find it strange that someone shows compassion.
On another note, I don't think I am a very good witness for the vegetarian lifestyle being obese. o I am hoping to change that!

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1/7/10 1:50 P

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Thank you. That was very helpful and made me feel a lot better. Ever since the few days that I've been a vegetarian, people have practically slaughtered ME for it. I can't believe someone would YELL at someone for eating vegetables?!

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I cannot tell you how many times I have heard that stupid argument from alleged Christians. I find it really despicable that they use God's Name to justify their actions.

God gave us stewardship over all the animal kingdom--He didn't say go ahead and maim and kill them in whatever fashion you see fit. He asked us to look after them. Additionally, you can hardly compare Christ's environment to our environment today. Am I really supposed to believe that Jesus would condone factory farming and all of its atrocities? Would He really condone the cruelty perpetrated onto defenseless creatures? Or would He expect us to respond with compassion and protect those weaker than us like He always did?

Here's a helpful website that you might like, it's the Christian Vegetarian Association: www.all-creatures.org/cva/default.ht
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I think you will particularly find this page useful: www.all-creatures.org/cva/honoring.h
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Particularly this passage, "ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE, God granted humanity ďdominionĒ over Godís Creation. More and more, faithful Christians are coming to see ďdominionĒ as a sacred responsibility, rather than as a license to do whatever we want with the earth or Godís animals. Our dominion over Godís Creation should be patterned on Godís loving, compassionate dominion over us. If we fail to show love for Godís Creation or mercy for Godís creatures, should we expect God to protect us from the consequences of our own heartlessness and self-indulgence?"

Excellent point, yes? I think this will help you to rebuttal the lame arguments your sister comes up with. They also site particular scriptures.

personally, I have never felt that I was going against God by NOT murdering one of His creations. Plus, there's a really good argument that before the fall of Adam and Eve, there was no death of any kind. And isn't that the state of mind that God wanted us to pursue for eternity? It was only after the fall that the consumption of dead things began...so I just think of it as returning to the state that God had always intended for us.

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1/7/10 12:01 P

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Hi, I'm new to this team and vegetarianism, and I am a follower of Christ.

Recently my sister (who I think has not been following God lately) and thinks I am stupid for becoming a vegetarian said to me, doesn't it say in the /Bible/ to eat meat? And then my mother said that God declared all animals clean. Then I do remember the verses about Jesus feeding the 500 with fish and whatnot. What does everyone think about all of this? I don't think I'm going against the Bible to not eat the animals that God created. Thoughts and discussion would be nice. Thanks :)

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