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7/17/19 7:02 P

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Just weighing in (no pun)......in the past maintenance was difficult for me because I had gone on a diet and then when I hit my goal, I went off the diet....and regained the weight.

This time I didn't go on a diet and when I hit my first goal didn't do much different, and kept losing weight.....now I've been at or under my goal weight for over 6 years. Can't say it's hard although I do pay attention to what I eat and I exercise every day.

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6/3/19 10:15 P

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Thank you all so much for the info. I really appreciate all your help. I have not had any labs, but I would like to. I will check into that. Thanks again.

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6/3/19 1:27 P

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Yikes, Jeanne. You've made me grateful now that my doc immediately checked my serum ferritin levels (among other things) last year when I had some sudden hair loss. (Normal levels, btw). Thanks for the article!

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6/3/19 1:18 P

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Hi Simmon, I am going to echo Rose on the iron. Try getting iron from your food first. No need to answer this question, just something to think about if you don't already know, do you know for a fact that you are iron deficient? Has your blood been tested? Have your serum ferritin levels been tested? IMHO I would not be using an iron supplement without lab work that indicates a need for it. And, if the lab work does indicate a need for it, the form of the supplement matters. All iron supplementation is not the same.

Here's a link to an article regarding serum ferritin levels.

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Mine has NEVER been checked. It is part of the reason that I am going outside our health care provider for help.

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"Believe me, your body has the ability to restore itself to perfect health, once you eliminate the foods and other forces that prevent it from healing." ~ Steven R. Gundry, MD

"I'd like to dispel once and for all the myth that any single diet approach works for every individual." ~ Peter J. D'Adamo, ND


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5/31/19 5:58 A

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Hi Simmon. Try getting your iron from natural sources. Legumes, nuts & seeds, seafood, tofu, eggs, soybeans, vegetables.fruits, & whole grains. If you think you need a supplement, do it only under a doctor’s supervision. Taking iron without supervision can be dangerous.

Edited by: ROSEWCI at: 5/31/2019 (19:03)
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5/30/19 7:55 P

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PMEYHAUS: Thank you so much for the info. I like your workout plan and love your saying about goodbye bat wings, hello shapely shoulders! I try to get enough protein, sometimes I fall short. On that note, what I really struggle with is to get enough Iron. I do use cast iron skillets, but I do not like organ meat. Do you monitor iron or any of the nutrients in the nutritional reports? I try not to use supplements if I can help it, but when I do, I am very careful especially with iron. I really appreciate your responses.

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5/30/19 11:38 A

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SIMMONSCORNER - Yes, that muscle tone makes such a difference! I've been maintaining a 50 lb weight loss for a year, and started strength training soon after reaching goal. I do some varied vigorous exercise every day (walking, hiking, swimming laps, aerobics classes) and strength train 2 or 3 times per week. It has made a world of difference in the way I look and feel, even though my weight stays about the same. Goodbye "bat wings"! Hello shapely shoulders! I also found that eating more lean protein (about 100g a day, spread out thru the day) helped with muscle tone. We tend to lose muscle mass as we age, so strength work and protein are more important than ever.

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5/30/19 10:07 A

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I have been away from this group for a while, but thank you all for sharing your journey, struggles, and successes. I always get so much encouragement and reminders of what maintenance is. I have lost the weight several times and have done maintenance for about 6 years. What I find is crazy, is that it is not just about the weight. It is about muscle tone. I have been at 160 pounds, but depending on my muscle tone, I can be in a size 12 or size 8 in the same style clothes. I see it in the mirror. If I stick with my exercises, I do pretty well. Muscle seems to go away so quickly. I find maintenance is not harder, just different. I had to learn how and what maintenance is. I once thought the exercises weren't working anymore because I wasn't struggling to do it. So I quit exercising. The light bulb came on=that is what maintenance is. Another thing that is different, is you don't get that thrill of the scale going down. It just stays there. Sort of like cleaning a house. The house stays the same if you are maintaining. If it is a total mess, you see a big difference when you clean it up. Much more rewarding. I found, just like many of you have mentioned, that when I maintain, I feel so much better. It just becomes a habit of tracking, monitoring, and using food & weight scale. Again, thank you so much for all your inspiration. I welcome any tips on the muscle tone. Thanks.

Edited by: SIMMONSCORNER at: 5/30/2019 (10:13)
DJ--Team Leader of Hula Hooping for Fun & Fitness. We reinforce healthy habits like tracking, having fun, & learning to hoop. Waist hooping is amazing core workout & off body hooping really works those arms. Anyone can hoop on their hand. Come check us out. https://www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/
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5/27/19 2:29 P

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Good point, Rose. I need to mix up my routine a bit. I've only been at it seriously for a week though, but still...

Thank you Jean for the support!

Sleep is hit or miss with me. According to my FitBit, I didn't get any REM sleep last night. Not even 1 minute. That's crazy!



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Thank you Jean! Sleep has never been an issue for me but I am aware of its’ importance. Since I have incorporated daily exercise, I have slept very well. I also continue the healthy habits I developed while in losing mode. I am trying adding things like portion controlled pistachios, an occasional glass of wine, or a small bag of smart pop popcorn to my intake to see if I can maintain my weight. Otherwise, I am eating 3 meals a day without snacks in between.

Have a safe & healthy Memorial Day!

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5/26/19 12:30 P

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Congratulations Rose on reaching your WW lifetime!

And, congratulations to you Colleen for reaching your goal!

Maintenance is a balancing act. I have essentially continued doing what I was doing during the weight loss period: hydrating adequately, tracking nutrition, tracking exercise (when my body will tolerate it), managing stress, and getting enough sleep.

IMHO, sleep is underrated. It is SO important. It's during sleep that the repair, recovery, and rejuvenation magic occurs.


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Initial Goal Weight, 144
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"Believe me, your body has the ability to restore itself to perfect health, once you eliminate the foods and other forces that prevent it from healing." ~ Steven R. Gundry, MD

"I'd like to dispel once and for all the myth that any single diet approach works for every individual." ~ Peter J. D'Adamo, ND


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5/26/19 5:44 A

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Thank you Colleen! I do use the WW app to track my intake daily. I am the same! I gain & lose easily. I do the gym too....I love the classes (spinning is my most fave!) & attend several days a week. I also run, walk, & bike. I try to mix it up so my body doesn’t get used to any one activity.

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Congratulations on making Lifetime, Rose! I track the new WW program, Freestyle, through iTrackBites. I've been using the app since May 17 of this year. I, too, have been playing around with how much I can eat and not gain. With me it's such a balancing act because I gain as easily as I lose. I'm with you about three meals a day plus a snack. I do the same. I also go to the gym 5 days a week and do walk/jog intervals for cardio. What type of exercise do you do?

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I just achieved lifetime status with WW’s last month. I track everything & started letting up a little with portion control & noticed my weight creeping up a few ounces each week. I guess I wanted to see how much I can actually eat & not gain. I’m still adhering to my three meals a day with one snack after dinner. I don’t eat any processed foods. Last week, I started eating lighter meals & I lost weight. I still maintain my daily exercise. I realize I will have to remain diligent to maintain my weight loss. It is, what it is. I can do it!

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I DO think maintenance takes work but I wouldn't call it 'grueling' LOL. I think maintaining weight lost takes just as much work as losing the weight to start with....which is why I didn't succeed a time or two. I likely thought once the weight was lost, the work was over. NOT!!! I'm a tracker and track everything I eat. My method is similar to Jeanne's...I measure at home, use a restaurants online nutrition info when I can and estimate the rest using something similar on Spark's Nutrition Tracker. It is VERY easy for me to have an 'out of sight, out of mind' attitude with food...if I don't stay conscious of the calories then I can easily overeat. So, I find tracking works for me....everything that goes into my mouth. I'm a little OCD about stuff so that works for me!
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I used to have this job. I wrote at uxmag.com/readers/hilary-moore how hard it is to be a maintaining guy. Thankfully, I got a good CV which helped me with finding a better job!

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For the up coming weeks, I'll be making sure that I have travel foods with me. Usually, if I eat a good breakfast I don't get hungry. His appoints seem to be after 1pm, so I won't be eating lunch. It takes an hour to get to his appts, which is stressful enough. On the way home, we'll either stop somewhere where I can get a salad or eat when I get home, (that's where menus will come in handy) whenever that will be. It will be quite the challenge to have "me" time and to eat according to my lifestyle.

Thanks for the encouragement!!

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Hi Nola, congrats to your weight loss and maintenance success.
I'm sorry about the stressful time,
I know how much harder it is to eat well under stress.
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-avoid overeating, instead of satisfaction you get stronger cravings


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NOLAHORSERIDER, Glad the ketogenic approach has supported your efforts. We each need to find what supports us best. Sorry to hear the past couple of weeks have been stressful.

Ramped up stress is my emoticon zone!

The fact that you're aware of the stress eating is a good sign. You're right. Back to basics.

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I used to eat like your sister Nelljones. I had always been thin. When I first married in my mid 20's that very first year I gained 20 pounds. I ate what I wanted, yet didn't exercise or do much of anything. At the encouragement of my co-workers at the time, I joined WW. ($0.50/week). I lost the 20 pounds, plus from basically eating right. I had no more problems until....Once I turned 44, then the weight just piled on and it has been an uphill battle ever since. I found SP in July 2014 and through proper diet and exercise lost 37 pounds. Then I went overboard and went back to the way it was. Over the next couple of years I gained all but 10 pounds back. So back to basics again, on Sept 25, 2016 I started Ketogenics and within the past 1 1/2 years have lost 51 pounds. I do not plan to gain it back. I have noticed that the past couple of weeks have been quite stressful and I have become a stress eater. That needs to stop! Going back to basics today and get back on track.

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By definition, intuitive eating would mean that you wouldn't give food a second thought. My sister, a year younger than I am, has never in her life asked herself whether or not she should eat something. She has never had to monitor her appetite or how she feels. She just eats what she wants, and has never had an overweight day in her life. Most people would think that means she has a fast metabolism, but she actually doesn't eat all that much; she doesn't think about it, just does it, always has. No misery, no angst. I have never been like that and I never will. In order to prevent agonizing over choices, I plan my eating in advance then stick to my plan. Every once in awhile I think it would be nice to be like my sister, but she doesn't eat Reeses either, just not for the same reason.

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That's interesting, you were still eating healthy right? And were you doing a lot of walking on the ship? Yes, I agree that going that route can be more taxing. With intuitive eating I spent a lot of mental energy on thinking about food, I was allowed to eat what my body craved, so I spent a lot of time thinking about the foods I wanted to eat, if I was truly craving them or not, and lots- most of the time thinking about my weight gain, And if it would eventually level out into it's "happy weight". Which it didn't, I literally just kept gaining, even after getting all the sweets cravings out of my system and listening to hunger and fullness cues.

This was how the plan worked: first you legalize all your trigger and bad foods, thereby lessening their appeal, which actually seemed to work after a few days. I was able to have Oreos in the house and not think about them. Then next you start listening to your hunger and fullness cues and only eat without distraction and very slowly. And then lastly, you start listening to what your body really craves or needs. Like if you are tired you realize that healthy foods make you feel better etc. They say that at the end of it all you will only crave healthy real foods, and your weight will go to it's natural weight.

That sounds awesome and like a dream come true...but the reality was it didn't work like that for me. I just kept gaing and allowing lots of carbs like pasta and cookies. I was hoping and praying that my weight would take care of itself like they promised. But I was getting more depressed. Amd you aren't allowed to talk about weight or wanting to be thinner because those are "triggers" ,which would cause other people to want to take control of their health and lose weight. It was a sort of twisted mindset. And as a Christian something didn't sound right about giving into all the desires of the flesh. Because the bible talks about taking control of your body and thoughts and having self control and discipline.

I was trying so hard to be a "naturally thin" person because I was told we all can be. But Im not. I will always need to track and be on guard. My husband bought me some quinoa granola snack with chocolate drizzled on top, and after having a serving i found myself craving more. I told myself no and didn't give in, but even after over a month of being on track with no sweets i still end up craving more if I have a little. Im not "fixed".

I better get going, went walking this morning, now time for my jog :)

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I can't eat "intuitively", either. I'm almost 13 years into maintenance, and still need to track everything I eat in order to maintain. Over the years my eating has evolved to be much "cleaner," but we dine out on some of the healthier fast food options quite a bit.

We did try an experiment on our last cruise, when we had no internet or scale access. We ate our dinners in the main dining room (and a few breakfasts too). We chose the lighter options from the menu, and most nights didn't have every course. Also, on most nights we skipped dessert in the dining room, and had a tiny treat in the buffet after seeing the night's show and our walk around the deck. For DH, that was often a mini cake or pastry, and for me it was often a few crackers and some fancy cheese. We also tried to pay really close attention to our fullness signals. It turns out that we both lost a pound or 2 on that cruise, which I found fascinating. Frankly, though, I found the vigilance necessary to do that to be more taxing than tracking. Still, I suppose it shows that it's possible to lose or maintain without tracking, but I don't know that I'd call it intuitive.

One of the hardest things I find about paying attention to my body's signals is that the feeling of "satisfaction" is really a non-feeling. Neither empty nor full. So, it's very elusive and hard to notice.

Maintenance is as much work as losing, but it has the advantage of allowing us to do it in cuter clothes - BESSHAILE

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Brooklyn_born, I agree, I think it's best to be realistic with ourselves. I can look in the mirror and lie to myself and run from it, or I can accept reality and work towards changing it. I don't think it necessarily makes me vain to want to be slimmer and more feminine. It's really hard to look in the mirror and not feel like a petite woman. And this may sound shallow but I enjoy wearing fashionable clothes and looking nice.

I actually bought a couple of goal outfits the other day because all my skinny clothes are from my early twenties, and now my sense of style has changed to be more modest. It was fun shopping! It was also fun messing with the ladies working there. They asked for my size and I said "small please " and I can tell they were thinking some funny things because they were so quiet ha ha! I noticed that the sizes were a bit different now. I bought some size 27 jeans, and surprisingly they could get almost up my hips. Vanity sizing at its best.

Jeanne, how much weight have you lost? Something I learned this time around from reading the national weight loss registry articles and other blogs is that there are many different ways to lose the weight and keep it off. It's not one size fits all like i used to think. I think that if someone hates their weight loss journey and keeps pining for their old foods and hates the changes then they are more likely to hate maintenance as well, and more likely to fail.

Im glad you had a wonderful journey, that's a great sign that this is a life change for you. That's very inspiring! And it's also inspiring that you track your calories every day too. It just becomes habit huh? It's funny because the intuitive eating plan says that's a huge no no! That tracking of any kind is bad, and cannot possibly be sustained for the long haul. They try and say dieting of any kind will fail and that its an eating disorder. I think people just need to find the plan that works for them. Sometimes it's weight watchers, sometimes it's something of their own invention. For me, Im a big fan of The 17 Day Diet along with calorie counting. It's basically cutting out the flour, wheat, processed foods, and eating lots of veggies, lean meat, some fruit, and some dairy. I really enjoy it because it's simple, and teaches you healthy habits, and I believe I am carb sensitive. And I rarely even think about food anymore.

Jeanne, having a smaller appetite on some days is normal I think, because it balances out in the long run. That's just my belief. My husband is naturally thin and some days he eats like a horse and some days he eats one meal because of his work shift and just not being hungry. His weight fluctuates within the normal range. It's hard to imagine having that problem some day in the future (losing too much weight) because being in the midst of this journey feels like it will last forever.

Kriszta, Im curious, how do you pronounce your name? Is it like Krista? It's a beautiful name :) .
I like your trick; doing everything in your head! How long have you been maintaining for? 227 week, I guess I could just do the math lol! How much weight did you lose? You look great in your profile picture! All you ladies do! I would never guess that any of you had weight problems.

I better get going. I just did my run on the treadmill now it's time to shower.

I have a question for you all, the blog talked about a honeymoon phase, was that true for you? And how long did that last before the realities of life set in again?

Thanks! Sorry for switching topics in the thread. I don't want to start a new one for every question. Maybe I could just ask questions in the question thread already started. Thank you all for being patient with me :)


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I can't do intuitive eating either.
People may think I do, because I haven't tracked my food for years.
But I'm cheating!
All portions and food combinations are in my head, and I do measure most of my food.
Kitchen scale is my best friend! : )

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Maintenance Lessons Learned:
-go on with the healthy lifestyle learned in weight loss phase
-just add healthy foods gradually to stop losing
-work out every day - 30-60 minutes is enough to maintain weight and good mood
-do not try to balance overeating by extreme workouts, it is not going to work
-avoid overeating, instead of satisfaction you get stronger cravings


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At 19 months into maintenance things continue to evolve for me. At this stage of the journey, I cannot imagine intuitive eating working for me. However, it seems to work for some. We really do each need to find our way and accept that our way isn't necessarily going to work or support others. My journey has been an ever evolving exploration. It's been wonderful. And, wonderful does not mean it's been a bowl of cherries or bed of roses.

I have tracked my calorie intake EVERY DAY since December 23, 2013. I weigh and measure everything that is prepared in my home. When I eat away from home (which I do frequently) I obtain nutritional information online when available; otherwise, I do the best I can to estimate what I've eaten and track it using similar items available in the Spark Nutrition Tracker.

I can be like BROOKLYN_BORN when it comes to food ... a bottomless pit. But, I also can flip into the opposite behavior on a dime which leaves me eating less than what my body needs. Honestly, there are times that I force myself to continue eating because I know that I need the calories. Is that a good thing? Likely not. But, I know I'm going to lose weight if I don't eat enough and I am underweight on my scale and getting close to underweight territory on the scale in my doctor's office.

So, I do the best that I can with the knowledge that I have. In an ideal situation we would eat when hungry, quit eating when we obtained a full signal and go about our business. But, our lives don't allow most of us to do that and for many of us the signaling systems in our bodies that tell us when to eat and quit eating are not functioning optimally. Will the signaling systems in our bodies improve as our eating returns to a healthy pattern and remains there for months to years? In my case, I am seeing indications of improved metabolism. But, not tracking, measuring and weighing food feels like far too risky a venture, for me, at this stage of the game.

I think I hear you saying that the intuitive eating did not work for you. Okay. It didn't work for you (at that time). Move on and find something that does. The experience was not time wasted. You learned something valuable about yourself. Take that experience and allow the wisdom gained from it to inform your decisions as you move forward.

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NMoriarity: It’s like you’re speaking directly to me. I’m 5’6” and DH calls me “bottomless pit” or “ravenous woman” since I can eat enormous amounts of food, even healthy food.

Intuitive eating, or just eat clean doesn’t work for me. I need my food scale and my daily weigh-in too,

I also can’t buy into the “love my body no matter what” idea either. I know the concept works for a lot of people. I understand what they’re trying to say, but I’m more than my body. I can love myself as a whole – (mind, personality etc. plus some physical characteristics), but I do not love those unneeded pounds, especially the effort it takes to drag them around.


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Good perspective Kriszta, you never can tell what someone is going through. Like if you see someone who is 300 pounds maybe she is on her way down in weight and has already lost a considerable amount already.

Weight loss is so psychological. For example; when I started regaining the weight in the summer it came on really fast, I was back to 140 in just 2 weeks from being 132. But just a few months before I would have been thrilled to be 140.

And also, when I realized that I was probably going to gain several pounds I suddenly had so much appreciation for my body at 132, and I had thoughts like "I wish I could stay this weight forever". For the first time in my life i actually loved my body and wanted it to stay that way. But the weight gain was inevitable because I joined the intuitive eating/HAES/ dieting is bad movement. I thought I would just gain a few and stop. But it kept coming on. In just 3 months I went from 132 to mid 150s. All the while trying to not think about losing weight and trying to love my body and accept it. I actually started to become depressed.

But I learned a lot. I learned just eating clean won't produce weight loss for me. I need to track calories as well. And I learned that maintenance takes work and sacrifice. And that i will never give up on myself again. Being fat is more crazy making than dieting. This time Im dieting the right way and not obsessed about it.

I didn't mean to get off subject here, just some thoughts that kind of relate to the original blog. I really don't think intuitive eating works for everyone. I know listening to hunger and fullness cues is wise, but that alone won't work for me. Maybe because Im so small at 5 ft, and have the appetite of someone much taller.

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I agree with the "compassion at any weight" sentiment. But most of all, I think we need to have compassion for ourselves. I was only able to lose the weight for good after I became able to love MYSELF at any weight.

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"people may need compassion and understanding at any weight" Absolutely!

After all, there but for fortune go you or I.
We don't know what challenges they are facing in their life.

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Struggling with weight and food issues is hard, and deserves compassion, be at goal or far far away from it. I found it is not the actual weight that determines quality of life, but motivation and effort.

Imaginary Person A is at normal body weight, but makes poor food choices, is physically inactive, feels helpless and guilty, struggles with cravings every night.

Imaginary Person B has lot of excess weight, but makes an effort: has a good food plan and sticks to it, goes out to walk 30 minutes every day no matter what, free of cravings, confident and determined - still people who don't know what she is doing may judge her for being lazy.

I remember when I changed my lifestyle and started to eat well and work out, I felt great immediately, before losing the first pounds.
Whenever I let myself overeat or eat junk for just a few days, I immediately feel miserable, even if I haven't gained any weight back (yet).

My point is, people may need compassion and understanding at any weight.
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Guss, I hear ya about the ego trip. Im already feeling judgy about people who aren't putting in the effort. It's frustrating listening to my walking buddy, I stopped giving real input. But I need to humble myself or else God will, it's not like I've "Arrived" yet! And even when I get to goal i need to Remember to be more compassionate about their struggles. Im not blunt or mean, I just secretly think things in my head like why can't they just do it and stop playing the victim?

Watermellen, I look forward to reading your blog :) . great job on the weight loss and keeping it off! I will look at that blog you linked as well.

Sorry this is so short, I wanted to write before jumping on the treadmill for my jog.

Thank you for the replies!

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What a coincidence that this week's vlog (January 26/16) by Susan Peirce Thompson is pretty much on this topic -- the alleged "hopelessness" of maintaining weight loss. The National Weight Loss Registry stuff about how only 5% of us succeed in keeping it off.

susanpeircethompson.com/blog/

Although she thinks that the NWLR stats are skewed (actually only about .01% of those who lose enough weight to reach a healthy BMI keep it off for 10 years . . . ) whe doesn't believe it it's that tough. And: having maintained an 80+ weight loss for over 15 years, I don't either.

Susan Peirce Thompson is of course the Bright Line Eating guru: and her theory is "leptin" based: namely, eliminating flour and sugar is the key . . . sticking to the rules until they're automatic.

Tomorrow I'd planned to blog on this topic -- if I can find the time!!



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NellJones has been maintaining longer than I have, she's like my Maintaining Earth Mother Guru Type, and before I'm done I will have on a megaphone shouting to the masses.

But a horrible truth that made me chuckle: I've been told many times that I'm not supposed to exist, or that I come from a storybook. Cut me and I bleed, trust me! :-)

Being even more honest: when I get on an ego trip and/or my feathers get ruffled, I totally take a LOT of pride at being "the impossible guy who did what you complain about" The further from my twenties I get, the more I'm growing out of that, because I have less I feel I need to prove.

That's why post-weight life still fascinates me: all the discoveries I might have made on my own through spirituality/self-help/transformational work etc. etc., but they're a result of my weight loss, or things I HAD to understand to keep my weight off and learn to enjoy life. They're as much as diet tool as any calorie counter for me.

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-- Went from pizza-guzzling wallflower in rock clubs to (very) aspiring boxer and artist in his spare time
-- Hit goal and felt a little thrown to the wolves. Dedicated his life to increasing support for those at or nearing goal and eeking every possible amazing thing out of it.

Limits? Pah.

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Jeanne, when you mentioned the man who was surprised by how trim you are at your age that made me laugh! It's sort of sad in a way that we just expect older people to be fat. I myself am surprised when I see a fit older man. And I admit a little weakness for a trim older man in a business suite, I dig the salt and pepper look ;) .

My husband still somewhat believes the myth that being older than I was before kids (Im 32 now vs. Mid 20s) and having 3 kids means I will always be a little heavier than I was. But I've known women who after several kids have gotten just as trim again. But who knows how my body will adjust, that's why my goal is 115 and not 105 like I used to be.

When I was younger I had a lot of assumptions about "naturally slim" people, but now I know they are mostly false. 3 women that I know who are slim and always have been told me this Halloween that they had a very hard time around the candy. My sister was sneaking it in her closet. They were all laughing about it. They struggle too! In fact 2 of them have recently put on a little bit of weight due to medication and the other due to a sedentary job.
So that's one irritating thing about a lot of fat people, their envy and distain for thinner people. I mean, no one likes being judged by their looks.

I have visited the weigh in thread, it's good for us losing weight to see what maintenance is really like. Weight naturally goes up and down. I decided when I started this journey that when I get to goal i will weigh myself daily, just to see the fluctuations. And I will probable give myself a 3 pound range. That's something I didn't do the first time I got to goal. For me, by the time my clothes get tighter Im already up about 10 pounds! It's too easy to deceive myself.

Russ, thank you for your perspective and great job losing so much weight! Does it feel like it went by fast? 10 years in maintenance? ! That's amazing! But of course that's impossible right? You are probably some lonely person who created a fake identity to push the healthy lifestyle agenda lol! You aren't supposed to exist! Im only kidding!

Seriously, more people need to know you guys are here! I keep telling my walking buddy about you guys, but she is struggling through weight loss too. We actually got into an argument yesterday....but I digress...

Russ, you are so right. If one wants maintenance bad enough they must be willing to fight. A lot of us overweight people aren't ready to put in the work to keep it off, or we are inlove with the idea of maintenance without sacrifice.

POINDEXTRA, Im sorry I must have misunderstood you. Im sure it's not easy. I hope your back feels better, that would be a bit of incentive to keep going. Extra weight makes things harder and hurt more. I can't wait to be able to run long distances again without my knees hurting so much.

Thank you for your responses. I can't wait until Im on the other side and able to help others too! My "goal date" is July 22nd. If anything I would at least like to be in the 120s by then. I will continue to put in the work. .. We will see where my weight lands by then.

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Hey there, I've been lurking around working on SttS and realized I haven't been very chatty.

I'm with Jean. One pound could make anyone go nuts in the longterm, or dominate their life such that they're able to do little more than watch their weight.

On the OP, the JustMaintaining blog. I can be just as cynical as that blog, but the difference is I don't want to write about my resignation; I fight back by making a great life despite my own hangups so they hangups in question go away. I might not like the current climate, but I know we can all change it for everybody.

So I don't disagree with her, in the abstract. So many social, existential, emotional problems intertwine with regular monitoring, tweaking existing regimens and eating that they're almost indistinguishable and can be exhausting -- as much emotionally as physically.

Beyond my personal goals, one of my biggest life goals: post-weight life doesn't -- shouldn't -- be that way, just reruns of fat suffering all in a smaller frame.

If my choices of struggle are:
A) maintain and be resigned about it (a la Justmaintaining)
B) regain all my weight and be resigned about it (a la societal expectation based of statistics)
C) keep pushing myself not only to maintain the body I want and a life that's worth the struggle, or "fight for the good stuff."

... I'll always choose C.


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-- Went from pizza-guzzling wallflower in rock clubs to (very) aspiring boxer and artist in his spare time
-- Hit goal and felt a little thrown to the wolves. Dedicated his life to increasing support for those at or nearing goal and eeking every possible amazing thing out of it.

Limits? Pah.

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All well said, Jeanne!

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I knew there was another thing shared by the writer upon which I wanted to comment. It's this ... "but it’s a little less stressful than if I have to reverse a one-pound (or more) regain, a process that may require weeks of “tweaking” my regimen."

Reverse a one-pound regain? Are you kidding me! I know we are not all the same. But, my weight routinely fluctuates. A pound is nothing! And, I do mean NOTHING!

That being said, I do not react to numbers on scales like I suspect many do. It's merely a number to me. I also weigh daily and do not find it to be stressful.

Natalie, If you are not already watching the Daily Weigh-In thread or the maintenance challenge threads (World Water Day Maintenance Challenge is the current one), take a look. You will see that our weight fluctuates. MOBYCARP, BAPEARMAN and myself will often list the range of our weigh-ins when we post each week for the maintenance challenges. There are others CYNDERELLI44, POINDEXTRA, GABY1948, NELLJONES and myself that routinely post daily weigh-ins (some of us also post trend weight) in the challenge threads.

Seriously, no need to stress over 1 pound. Does it bear monitoring? Maybe. But, it's our experience monitoring such things that tells us whether or not an adjustment is needed. And, I have found it to take monitoring and practice to develop this skill.

In case you're curious ... my daily weigh-ins for the month of January have ranged from 120.0 lbs to 122.8 lbs. Trust me, I'm not going to sweat a 1 lb pop on the scale.

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The individual sounds frustrated about the time, energy, and effort associated with maintenance and a sense of deprivation also appears to be present. Sounds like the person may be questioning whether the results are worth the effort.

Each of us need to answer that question for our selves and make some choices. Our thinking about the time, energy, effort and changes now required of us impact our maintenance experience. State of mind matters. Maintenance was likened to an unforgiving boss by the writer. Envy and some apparent assumptions are evident in the mention of "naturally trim" gym rats that return to the gym following an absence and are free of weight gain.

As someone that was referred to as naturally trim prior to gaining weight, the assumptions are I could eat whatever I wanted and not gain weight. Well, obviously, those assumptions were untrue because I continued a way of eating while simultaneously reducing activity and gained weight. Folks assumed to be naturally trim are simply eating and moving in a manner that their metabolism can manage. As metabolism changes, changes are required or weight gain will follow.

The person is also taking thyroid medication. Why? Who knows ... thyroid condition, thyroid damage following radiation treatment, taken as a diet aid (people do this)? As a post-menopausal woman with a 19-year clinical hypothyroid condtion, I could have chosen to do nothing because we all know that menopausal women and people with thyroid conditions cannot lose weight. And ... For crying out loud! Who do I think I am? Have I not forgotten how old I am? A neighbor kindly reminded me of this when he commented, "Don't you know women your age are supposed to be fat? Take a look at my wife." I mention these things facetiously.

Based on what my experience has taught me, the words appear to be those of one suffering with, at the very least, both insulin and leptin resistance. A focus on what's happening between the ears (ones thinking) and making supportive changes can alter ones experience dramatically for the better.

Lastly, I wanted to comment on the writers words ..."Like any job, it need not be joyless, but one may need to force joy into it," For me, it's not about "forcing." I choose whether or not to have joy.



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Wow - some people commented that I find maintenance effortless. I didn't mean to give that impression!

I find that maintenance actually takes quite a bit of effort, but it's an effort I do willingly, and so do not find it "grueling," For instance, I probably spend one to two hours each weekend preparing foods for my weekday breakfasts, lunches, and snacks. That doesn't include time spent grocery shopping or preparing items for healthy weekday dinners (I'll be honest here), we're still working on cooking more at home, and most of the things we make are pretty simple. Still it requires cutting chicken, defrosting whatever has been chosen, etc. Then, there are my early morning trips to the gym. Part of me hates needing to be in bed by 10 to get enough sleep before the 5:30 alarm, but I like the results, and always feel better when I do. I have the added incentive that my back pain returns when I don't work out - being mostly pain-free is a great motivator!

So, it's quite a large effort, but one (mostly) undertaken cheerfully.

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The exercise helped me lose weight and, yes, it continues to make me feel well. I did transition away from processed food along the way, but it was tracking food in SP that really made the final difference in getting to the weight that is recommended for me. So I was at goal weight and continued to change my way of eating. I think being fit and eating this way definitely helped my recovery. Rethinking my "I don't get hungry" statement, I suppose it's not so much that I don't start to feel hungry, but I just think about what I still need for protein, vitamins, etc. for the day to decide what I want to eat. I don't have a problem staying within the calorie range suggested by SP. Thanks everyone for sharing!

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SKIRNIR, that is an excellent observation about the thyroid medication. I know that thyroid problems affect weight, but I don't know how the medication affects it. Does it make it even harder to lose and maintain? I kind of think that since it's a foreign substance it might affect the body in different ways. I understand what you mean about being slightly hungry most of the time. Right now I eat 3 small meals a day, I have loads of energy, and I like not thinking about food, and Im usually hovering between satisfied and slightly hungry. I eat my last meal between 5 and 6, so I go to bed empty and growling. Im fond of going to bed hungry, I wake up feeling really light.

LGIOWA, Im sorry about your sickness, I can't imagine. You are very strong going through all of this and not falling back into old habits. Does the exercise help you feel better? While you were losing weight did you eat more processed foods and then fine tune things when you got to maintenance?

Donna, thank you! I know I joined early.... But I couldn't resist the temptation to pick your guy's brains lol! Also, I need to understand maintenance in order to succeed. I was blown away to find this group because you know the statistics.... No one keeps it off, and if they do it's because they are loathing life and will gain it all back lol! You ladies inspire me! I really mean that. I was still brainwashed by the HAES movement that said be happy being fat because maintenance is impossible. So thank you ladies for allowing me to join you! I don't post a lot, but I do read the posts and blogs every day! You ladies are like a mysterious minority in our society...but you already knew that ;).

Susie, I love your response. You really enjoy your new lifestyle, you knew what you had to do to keep it off and you made peace with it, and you have someone close to you that you can share the journey with. Support is definitely key! I have noticed too that a lot of maintainers exercise for about an hour most days, even if it's just a brisk walk. There are other things in common too. Like tracking food. Im glad you are enjoying life and enjoying maintenance!

Kriszta, words of wisdom! I couldn't agree more! When I was thin I was still miserable. The only thing that changed was the way I looked. I almost feel like I wasted those years of my life making bad choices and being a terrible person when I should have been working on the inside more.
I love your signature line, I had to share it with hubby because Im always preaching that! He has never had a weight problem, except keeping it on, I told him that I will always need to monitor my eating and exercise most days. I think he finally understands that I can't become a naturally thin person, this is just how my body is and I've made peace with it (he loves me the way I am now). God doesn't make junk!

Brooklyn_ born, yes I found her outlook very depressing. Reminds me of the propaganda the HAES (health at every size) and fat acceptance people promote. They have some good points like being active now at a bigger weight, and not hating yourself. I agree, that blogger seems to have some deeper issues. She might need some help. Her other articles are much of the same. Im kind of interested to see where she's at now with her weight because that article was from 6 years ago! I like your signature as well, so when they say Marilyn Monroe was a size 12, that would really be like a 6 today?

POINDEXTRA, Im glad that you are maintaining with little effort, I hope that's how I will be too. It will become habit, it already is. I love your tactic for fighting that temptation! We have ice cream and cheesecake in the house from a get together we had the other day, for the most part I've forgotten about it. But it's still tempting sometimes. Willpower/self control is a muscle that gets stronger the more we work it.

Nell, im so glad you commented. Isn't it funny that one person's deprivation is another person's lifestyle change? I think perspective has a lot to do with it. You can either suffer as an obese person or "suffer" to lose the weight and make permanent changes, you have to choose your suffering! I would rather sacrifice with a bit of time exercising and tracking my food than suffer being fat and miserable. I am enjoying this process though because I know each healthy meal is adding up in an account towards a healthy body. And the more I resist temptation the more that obsession goes away. I really enjoyed your blog about cravings, I really identify with that! Some people can allow for cheats and treats, for me it only feeds the monster.

Smilingeys2 and swim4slim, I know what you mean. Sometimes it's frustrating not getting to do the old things, but it's not worth it to give in. And over time it does get "easier" , requires less mental energy. But man, being fat takes up tons of mental energy! It would take too long to post all of my daily thoughts and frustrations of not being able to fit into most of my clothes and all the other baggage that goes along with being fat. Ugh.


Thank you ladies for your thoughts and responses to this. I've been thinking about these things lately, the 2 different mentalities of fat acceptance vs. the maintenance mindset. It's very interesting. One seems like a victim mentality and the other seems like an adult perspective of taking full responsibility for your health and changing.

Have a great night yall!


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I recognize the frustration she expresses in her blog. Since reaching goal weight half a year ago, I'm still learning to accept that keeping the weight off requires constant monitoring of my behaviors. I'm frustrated, like the blogger, that it will continue to take considerable mental real estate to do so. I grieve for the times when I had carefree, unchecked eating habits But I also know that it was those habits that got me in to trouble. I'm hoping that, over time, the amount of mental real estate I need to devote to monitoring my behaviors can become less; that good behaviors will become second nature. However, I am certainly not there yet. Knowing I'm not alone in that helps me feel normal. All you folks that seem to be enjoying maintenance effortlessly are a source of admiration and inspiration for me.

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GW: 143 (06/2015)
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My focus is more on eating healthy and staying active rather than the number on the scale. This is a life journey and I prefer to enjoy the process not the destination only. Occasionally I will reminisce how I could eat the entire meal and then go for the dessert. Now I often not order all the sides or will take half my entree home for another meal. This past Saturday I had the sesame crusted Ahi tuna--absolutely one of my favorite meals. I did eat half a cup of the chowder that was part of the meal, about 1/4 of the green beans as well as only 1/2 the tuna. I was afraid it would not be good re-heated but was excellent the next day being zapped 30 seconds only.

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1/20/16 9:35 A

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I don't find maintaining to be depressing at all. If I did, I certainly wouldn't do it. My old WW leader told me way back in 1970 that the more you can learn to love the process of losing, the more you'll be able to comfortably sustain that loss. The writer of that blog sounds like she is still trying to overlay a positive thought on what she still sees as deprivation. I no longer even SEE deprivation. I see a wonderful life of wonderful food, just like that WW leader told me so long ago.

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1/20/16 9:21 A

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I haven't read the blog or referenced articles yet, but will report that I don't find maintenance grueling. Doing what I need to do to maintain (tracking my food and making sure I get enough exercise) have become habit, and teams like this one actually make it fun. In addition, all of your sharings provide me with valuable information on what works for you, so I can try those things if I choose. For instance, yesterday I told myself that the donuts in the kitchen were "not my food," and stepped away from the counter. I decided that if the double chocolate one was still there at the end of the day, I would take it home and quarter it for my bedtime treats. Someone ate the donut, and all was well.

Of course there are frustrating times like earlier this year when I had gained a few pounds which wouldn't budge, but perseverance has paid off. Even if my aging body had decided that those pounds were here to stay, I would still consider myself a maintenance success story.

So let's press onward team-mates, maintaining with good humor, and joy when possible:).

Maintenance is as much work as losing, but it has the advantage of allowing us to do it in cuter clothes - BESSHAILE

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Reading that blog was really depressing. I definitely don’t identify with that maintenance lifestyle at all.

Perhaps she has deeper problems in her life that have nothing to do with weight?
Her thyroid problem could be an issue.
Maybe her problem is isolation? She’s doing this alone.

We are not alone. We have SP and this group.

I was interested in her highlighted “critical research.” I didn’t get the same impression as she did from the statistics. Yes, if you regain 5% of the weight you lost, only 4.7% will successfully lose it again, but they will have kept off 95% of the weight. I think that’s great.

There are links to other articles there whose titles seem worthwhile.
When time allows I’ll investigate them.


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If someone expects maintaining a certain weight a constant source of joy, they will be disappointed. A number on the scale makes nobody happy.
Also, there are different ways to maintain a certain weight,
you can do it with gritted teeth and suffering,
or you can keep learning until you find your happy way,

Eating well and being active has always made me feel good.
However, I did struggle to maintain a 63 kg / 138 pound goal weight.
Loved my food and loved my exercise, the struggle was with emotional eating in the evenings.

Then a year ago I worked through 6 weeks of cognitive therapy, with a great self help book* that taught me how to do it - weight dropped down spontaneously to 59 kg / 130 pounds, and I have maintained it effortlessly and happily ever since.

*The Beck Diet Solution

Kriszta

Goal weight:
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Maintenance Lessons Learned:
-go on with the healthy lifestyle learned in weight loss phase
-just add healthy foods gradually to stop losing
-work out every day - 30-60 minutes is enough to maintain weight and good mood
-do not try to balance overeating by extreme workouts, it is not going to work
-avoid overeating, instead of satisfaction you get stronger cravings


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1/19/16 9:36 P

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I just read the blog and must say she sure has a negativity problem. However, I would need to know more about the person herself before I start going off on her.
For myself, on average I would say I exercise at least 60-80 minutes a day at least 5 days a week. I enjoy all the foods that I eat on a daily basis. I love my meals! My sister Thoms1 and I often say we have the best meals. Of course we eat a lot of the same foods on a daily basis. We try to plan for special events that might come up but honestly we are not perfect! Who is!

We do try to eat foods that give us the feeling of fullness and keep us full. We do eat some processed food but try to keep our nutrients in line with spark people's recommendations. If this is maintenance I say I can handle this with no problem.


Susie South Central WI

"There's a difference between interest and commitment. When you're interested in doing something, you do it only when it's convenient. When you're committed to something, you accept no excuses; only results"
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When you break down goals into smaller steps, it isn't even that hard. All you have to do is say "yes" to the right thing!


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For me grueling is an overstatement, but I do find it difficult. There are days where I am hungry all the time, that time of the month especially, that I can get down about how I can't eat when I want to and how hubby and son can eat anytime and anything they want. But most of the time, I see it as difficult but doable. I do agree with her though that if I gain some, I don't loose it easily. I have gained about 7 pounds out of the 80 pounds I lost and it refuses to move. Now, I am not trying horribly hard to loose those 7 pounds, but did raise my exercise some.

3/31/12 Trailbreaker half marathon 13.1 miles in 3 hours 13 minutes
4/20/13 Neighborhood Watch 5K 39:17.6
10/5/13 5K Grace Pet Fest 38:47.6
12/1/13 Secret City Half Marathon around 3 hours and 4 minutes
4/19/14 Butterflies for Hope 5K for Lupus 39:23.8
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welcome to the team. We are so glad you joined us.

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In the process of losing weight I now eat whole food plant based no oil. I have been in maintenance for over two years and have not found it to be difficult. I don't get hungry. I do exercise once or twice a day doing various things that I enjoy. Last fall I started on a cancer prescription that many online said it was really hard to take without having weight gain, but it has not been a problem for me either. So I don't find maintenance grueling.

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Just now reading it over and my first comment is notice the thyroid pill. Weight loss is much harder for those with thyroid issues, I am told. So this may be harder for her. (assume her.)

Okay her exercise regimen is much harder than mine. I would say I am a bit preoccupied with food and tend to be on the edge of hunger a lot. If I get too hungry before I eat, I have issues. Currently I am working delivering groceries and I take a lot of smaller food items and space the eating of them out over the day, so as to try and not get too hungry.

She sounds like she is a bit more unprocessed foods, avoiding hormones in milk, etc. I do not worry too much about that, but tend to avoid them by nature, at least some. So I think she probably spends more time than is absolutely necessary, but those of us who have lost weight, do seem to get hungry more often and have to fight it, including in maintenance. Living with two naturally thin people who can eat what they want, when they want and not gain weight, is a bit annoying to me, but maintenance can be done, especially if one is going for a healthy weight, but not too low for themselves.

3/31/12 Trailbreaker half marathon 13.1 miles in 3 hours 13 minutes
4/20/13 Neighborhood Watch 5K 39:17.6
10/5/13 5K Grace Pet Fest 38:47.6
12/1/13 Secret City Half Marathon around 3 hours and 4 minutes
4/19/14 Butterflies for Hope 5K for Lupus 39:23.8
2/7/15 Hearts & Soles 5K, San Jose 34:50
3/12/16 Hearts &Soles 5K, San Jose 34:16


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I found this blog written by a woman who reached her goal weight, but is quite cynical about maintenance.

From my past experience I don't remember maintenance being that grueling to do. I think maybe this lady has a bad attitude about it, or could possibly be a bit under her body's ideal weight.

Let me know what you ladies think. Do you personally feel like you are struggling to maintain? Or is it a moderate effort? I believe it takes diligence and effort to keep it off, but it gets a little easier and more habitual over time.

I dabbled in the health at every size and fat acceptance movement for a bit before starting this journey again because I believed the lie that weight loss maintenance is impossible. So it's easier to stay fat. It was misery.

http://justmaintaining.com/2010/09/30/we
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Natalie

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The start of my last weight loss journey: November 22nd 2015 @158



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