I agree, too negative. For myself, I need to learn how to incorporate treats into my calorie budget. I am learning I can have some of what I want but not all that I want. I am learning about moderation too and what exactly that is!
I guess you could say yesterday was a cheat day for me. And it didnt turn out well. It was not satisfying to me in the least. After doing low carb all month, (no sugar, no starches, no bread) I finally had my doc appt and got on the scale. I have lost 14 lbs since I went to her in June. So, after a few hours of shopping, I hadnt had lunch, I went thru the drive thru at Wendys for a 4 for 4, nuggets, fries a small burger and a small sweet tea. I chose to add a small frosty. I ate the burger without the bun, and ate a few, maybe 7 or 8 fries, they were soggy and salty, so I tossed them back in the bag. I ate the 4 nuggets and drank most of the small sweet tea. By now I am full to bust. And, I removed the lid from the frosty, took about 3 spoonfuls, and it was so yummy, rich and sweet like I remember. But, already full from the food, I decide to let it set, I put the lid back on, and go onto my next store, groceries, last stop before home, a few last minute items. By the time I walked from the parking lot to the shopping carts, I was exhausted. I felt like I was carrying an extra 40 lbs on my shoulders. Sleepy and aching, I grabbed the one most important item and paid, walked back to the car, and I was totally give out. I felt like I had climbed a tall mountain. I bagged the rest of the frosty with the rest of the leftovers and garbage and tossed in the trash. I was sick all evening, I was too tired to cook dinner, I ached in my back, wanted nothing but a good long sleep. I guess cheating wasnt as satisfying as I thought it would be. No more!! If I ever decide to allow myself an indulgence, it will be ONE item only, not a whole meal and not at all a whole cheat day. I prefer to stick to healthier foods and water. No sugar.
I just had an enlightening, that I tend to put a lot of "extra rules" on myself. If I just stay withing my sparkpeople numbers, I find that I will not need a "cheat day" but that not being so hard on yourself during the week, you can feel satisfied to where you don't think of "good foods or bad foods or cheating"
I try to incorporate treats into my calories. These are foods that I might have once every two weeks. They are an occaisional splurge not an everyday food. I am learning to limit these foods and work them into my calorie budget. I do not deny myself. I can have some of what I want but not everything I want.
I really agree with your outlook. I don't like to think of something out of the ordinary that I eat as a "cheat". It's just something that might have, but the key is that it is only on occasion, not a daily thing.
I eat in a way now that I don't feel like I require a "treat" day (I used to call them "treat" days instead of "cheat" days.)
As someone else mentioned, sugar used to be my driving decision to have "treat" days - I'd eat really good all week and then eat something super sugary on my special day (which was usually a Friday), but then that would turn into a weekend-long junk-fest.
I finally accepted I have a sugar addiction so I cut highly-sugary foods out of my living menu. I still have fruit, and I can have dark chocolate since it doesn't trigger me - but high-sugar foods just aren't anything I eat any more.
I don't feel deprived and am happy with what I eat every day. I feel like I enjoy fruit, etc. more now.
I treat high-sugar foods as though they're a dangerous narcotic. Best to not have even a little bit because it'll trigger more and more cravings. Since such foods do nothing for me nutritionally, it's not a big deal staying away.
Many of those trigger foods contain dairy and eggs, as well, and since I'm vegan, it makes it an easy decision to say "no" to them for that reason, too.
The thing for me with Cheat days is....SUGAR IS ADDICTIVE. As with drugs you crave sugar and sugary things. If you use alternative sweetness (I prefer stevia) it is way better than all the sugar that is being consumed. Usually cheat days lead to increased sugar intake. Let's face it... a donut or a celery stick?? The old me would choose the box of donuts, but the new me doesn't really care about sweets. Read the labels on foods....carbs and sugar are very high, even on so called Healthy Foods. For me....NO CHEAT days. I am on the Ketogenics diet and I have no cravings nor do I have hunger pangs. Some days I have to remind myself to eat! Uncanny, since I used to be a junk food junkie!
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I have never had any success when I indulged in cheat days. Now that I'm on Weight Watchers I am seeing that I can have a daily indulgence but I have to plan the rest of my day around it very carefully!
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Cheat days become cheat weeks, months and years - so I don't do cheat days, I just make sure it works in my calorie intake - I am cutting down my added sugar intake and I have a sweet tooth - so usually I turn it down - not worth the headaches.
I don't find the concept of cheat day helpful, because I imagine it would make me think it is OK to eat whatever I like, it doesn't count... and that's a risk of overeating for me. All food counts, as it contains the same number of calories, whatever day it is, obviously, but a cheat day could make me forget this.
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I don't do a cheat day. My current goals are to increase my fruits and veggie intake and decrease my intake of "bad" carbs and fats. It's been going very well. Last night I spent awhile debating over having a brioche bun with my turkey burger. I decided to go for it. I have been very active this week, including swimming and spring cleaning almost daily. I really, really enjoyed it. One, because I have been avoiding breads so it was a nice treat and two, because I knew I had done well all week and it it wasn't going to hurt me in the overall. But I wouldn't consider it a "cheat". Just a choice. I think having a cheat day is counter productive.
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If you feel the need to "cheat"...especially when you are even planning to do it ahead of time...then the Rules of Your Game need to change!
For 99% of us, our Bodies and Life don't work on a fixed, one way only schedule. For example, you should be able to incorporate extra calories for when you have exercised a lot (think of hiking for a day)… you should be able to ENJOY celebrating someone's special event (birthday, anniversary, unusual get together...) whatever day that is... you should feel free to indulge in a food you wouldn't normally eat when its available (for example, Grandma's fudge when you drop by to visit her).
Does that mean that EVERY DAY you eat extra, celebrate with food, or indulge? No... it just means you control your portions when you do those things and enjoy having the flexibility to LIVE instead of constantly "feeling deprived". A Negative Journey leads to failure fairly quickly for most of us. patti
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Since nothing is really off limits there is no such thing as cheating in my "diet." Diet simply being the way that I eat. Sure there are days or meals when I'm not as careful and that's OK because it all balances out. Actually after 6 + years of modifying how I eat, even when I choose to eat less healthy, it is still healthier than it used to be.
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Having a "cheat day" would be too much of a slippery slope for me. I've tried that before, but that one day would always set me back a good 2 or 3 days.
For me the word, "cheat" doesn't have any sort of weird connotation. It means cheating on yourself and your own commitment to yourself. Some people can have a "day off" and have no problems going back "on". I'm not one of those people!
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I have what I call "splurges" or "treats" every once in a while. These are times when I treat myself to something outside of my financial budget. For example, I love shrimp but can't afford to eat it frequently, but every once in a while I treat myself to it.
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Before, I lost my weight for good many moons ago! I followed a fairly strict diet with what I called a "freedom day". I didn't have a set day but, I did do it one day per week. With sensible eating and an exercise plan I lost 100lbs..Life was great I was on my way or so I thought! Eventually, 1 day slipped into every day and I gained back the 100 plus an additional 32 for good measure! What ended up working for me and does to this day is a food log I track everything. I lost all of the weight over a 2 year period and the extra 32 I had put on. When we deny ourselves, then bargain with ourselves, and then reward ourselves, it's a form of self sabotage in my mind. Just be sensible, and make healthy choices with extras added in always move more. The weight will come off!
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What I DO do, is give myself permission to eat whatever I want. Initially it was one day every 2 weeks (more frequently *can* stall weight-loss). I never felt I was being deprived because I wasn't, whereas if you *forbid* yourself from eating whatever BECAUSE YOU ARE ON A DIET, then you WILL fail - either by falling off the wagon, or getting to your goal and then going back to what you were doing before.
I have been maintaining for a number of years now, and I still practice my 'permission' method, however now it might be once every week, but there are times it might even extend to once in three or four weeks. I also still weigh all of my food and enter it into the Nutrition Tracker, warts and all.
I am not doing something so restrictive that I have to cheat on it one day every week.
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I'm another one who is aggravated by the terminology of "cheat" (just what or whom is being cheated?), but I actually agree with the action / choice as being a useful approach for some people.
I'm more comfortable with using the analogy of calorie intake / expenditure being the same as a financial budget. Since bodies aren't calculators, it makes a lot of sense to me to look at the weekly (or even monthly) budget of intake and expenditure, and focus on maintaining the trend (whether it be losing or maintaining) over time. With this approach, the idea of "spending" (eating) a little bit less each day in order to allow for a higher priced (higher calorie) choice once per week or per month, which will still stay within the overall budget for that week / month --- well, that makes perfect sense! In my mind, it is no different than choosing to skip purchasing your "usual" morning coffee every weekday and putting those funds aside to pay for an extra activity every weekend, or for something more extravagant once per month.
The approach itself can be a great one for many people so that they can avoid feeling deprived and can enjoy some indulgences that are a bit too "expensive" to fit in to a daily budget. It is really good for allowing someone to maintain overall control, while avoiding the stress of assessing every choice during the week (the single decision of "if I want it on "treat day" then I'll have it then, but NO for now" is a lot less stressful than having to do choice-by-choice decisions).
For myself, I'm not as structured with following my "budget", so I determine on a choice-by-choice basis whether something is a worthwhile "investment". I plan each day with all of the essentials covered, but with some room for extras if I should want / need them. This lets me add in "treats" daily if I should want to, but I do make sure that they fit in to the overall budget! I find that, for me, the trend works out just fine.
Just like everything else diet related, the choice of how to approach the "budget" is a very individual thing. The only "common" theme that I have really seen is that there does still need to be some control / moderation in any approach (the "free for all cheat day" doesn't appear to work for anybody), and that it has to make the overall diet / lifestyle easy and enjoyable for the person, or there is no chance of it becoming a longterm lifestyle suitable for maintaining a healthy weight.
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1SUZIQ11 brings up a good point. The term "cheat" has highly negative connotations for some people, so I don't like to think of it as cheating either. I try to work it into my calories for the day, and once in a while if I go over I don't beat myself up about it! In my opinion, overall health is more about a person's habits (good or bad!) rather than what they do once in a while.
I don't like cheat days for myself, it's too easy to make myself feel sick if I indulge all in one day. So I just work my treats into my daily calories. Most days I have enough for a frozen yogurt or some chocolate, and I still eat out pretty often, too.
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I'm a calorie/portion control counter. :) As long as I can fit it in my calorie count, I can have it. I eat 12-1500 calories per day and most days I can fit in an ice cream bar. No need for a "cheat" day. I'm not cheating! :D
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I think this idea works for some people and not for others, especially depending on their goals. It's usually important to have some sort of limitations, such as one regular size Snickers is ok, 3 is not.
Does any one give themselves a cheat day? I remember when Richard Simmons came out with this and I am so glad he did! I have picked Saturday as my cheat day. If I craved a snickers bar all week, well Saturday is my day to have that Snickers bar.