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10/21/17 12:43 A

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the only time i use a heart rate monitor is when i'm on the treadmill to check my efficiency. i sometime check it out before going to sleep to check my resting rate.

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10/20/17 3:14 P

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DIROB57 - I'm just ballparking here, but I would guess they've done a minimum of fifteen different tests trying to assess mine. It's been going on for years and as I previously stated, I used to use a chest band HRM and hover over my BP monitor out of concern for this incessant periodic and unexplained shortness of breath. Well, the last attempts were about six or eight months ago. Chemically induced Asthma, Pulmonary Function Test, etc. They did stress and nuclear EKG's prior to this round. This time the pulmonary dude has me back for a follow-up and basically states that I'm "subject to periods of shortness of breath" with no particular explanation. No shirt Sherlock! Coulda' saved thousands of dollars and a lot of my time and effort on that diagnosis. I still personally think it's seasonal.

They're basically saying that I'm not imagining it, but there is no obvious organic cause and I'll just have to live with it. That's what I've been doing for twenty years and probably more. So.... I can go seek a third and fourth opinion or live with it. Since I hate even driving past a Doctor's office, I'm going to take their advice and live with it. Being seventy and having more medical issues that can't really be treated without knives, I've decided to wait around and see which one kills me first. I will, however, enjoy myself while I wait. That means I get to exclude worrying about things I can't control from my itinerary. That plan is working pretty well.

My whole point is this... if they've satisfied you that there's no significant problem, "Don't Worry, Be Happy".

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10/20/17 11:48 A

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I think you're right about the standard maximum heart rate formula. I'm in my 60's with a RHR in the low 50's. Using a chest strap monitor my heart rate would go into the the upper 160's quite easily a few years ago and I always felt fine.When I tried to keep it the training range I couldn't even get out of a walk and felt like I had done nothing. After working with a really good personal trainer for a few weeks I found I couldn't get it up into the training range unless I was going up hill or running. Maybe you have developed some exercise induced asthma causing the shortness of breath. That can just show up out of the blue at any age. A person should probably worry more about how they feel and less about heart rate, at least until they come up with more accurate formulas. ( I think it was the interval runs she had me doing once or twice a week that made the difference.)

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10/20/17 11:01 A

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@NITEMAN3D @MOTIVATED@LAST Thanks for going to such links to chime in on the heart rate monitor question and I also looked at the linked thread on the subject. My fitbit does track my heart rate and likely does a fair job...better when tighter and on my left arm, but still if the holter monitor was right, it couldn't be completely accurate. And yes, it 'loses the plot' during intervals...love that expression! lol

My shortness of breath turned out to be respiratory because the heart doc says my heart is fine and not to worry a bit about it As a general rule, he said he doesn't like to see anyone's heart rate over 160, but yet he didn't freak out when my highest recorded rates during the 48 hrs were 160, 166 (Kettlebell swings) and 182...NO explanation for that one as I was walking sloooowly trying NOT to sweat since I couldn't shower! LOL

I did some pretty vigorous housework yesterday and according to my FB my heart rate got up to 153 but I felt absolutely fine...I"m not sure I totally agree with the 220-age thing because I'm about to be 60. Resting heart rate is below 60...usually around 57. For me to stay only in the 70-90% zone would put me at a HR of 112-144 which seems okay but there are times I know I will be higher than that like vigorous housework or kettlebell swings. Takes the fun out of it if I have to watch the numbers ALL the time!

The reason this whole question came up for me is because I want to start running a little and was trying to figure out if cleaning the bathroom as fast as I can causes my HR to get to 153 how am I going to control it when running? As I don't have any heart issues, I almost feel like I shouldn't be watching my HR monitor and should just listen to how I feel....sort of like intuitive eating....intuitive exercise.

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ZRIE014 Posts: 93,825
10/20/17 12:44 A

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i measure my heart rate when i take my blood pressure.

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10/15/17 12:32 A

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i have monitored my heart rate when i worked out on the treadmill.

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10/15/17 12:25 A

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M@L, Did you check out my link and see who authored that last post I pointed out?

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10/14/17 11:02 P

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While early generations of wrist-based Optical Heart Rate (OHR) sensors were little better than random number generators, more recent (ie. the last 12 months) versions tend to be more accurate.

The most common source of OHR problems is poor positioning and placement. OHR measures the color of light reflected back from the skin to detect the underlying flow of blood with each heartbeat. But if external light enters the sensor, this messes with the reading. To ensure a good "seal" the band should be snug, and the device postioned on the fleshy part of the wrist away from the wrist bone (this is a bit higher on the arm than most people traditionally wear a watch).

Excessive movement of the device on your wrist when running can cause the device to lock on to your cadence rather than your heart rate. Personally, I find I need to tighten the band on my Garmin by an extra notch to get accurate measurement when running, than I do to get accurate 24/7 monitoring. If you feel your Fitbit is inaccurate, try fixing the positioning and tightness.

The real problem with OHR monitoring is they are slow to respond to changes in heart rate. This is fine for steady state exercise, but it you are doing interval training with rapid changes between high and moderate heart rates, they can really lose the plot trying to keep up.

Chest strap HR monitors detect the electrical signals that fire the heart muscle to contract with each beat, and are accurate over a wider range of conditions. I use a chest strap whenever I am cycling, and sometimes on a more challenging run.

Chest straps are not without their problems though - in cold, dry conditions, and at the start of a workout, the poor electrical contact between skin and sensors can cause problems. Once you start sweating, they are normally pretty good. Moistening the sensor pads before starting can help here.

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10/14/17 7:32 P

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The wrist devices I treat as a day over day guide to how I'm doing, but they certainly aren't precision. I used to wear a Timex with a chest band that seemed pretty accurate, but now just use perceived rate of exertion as my guide. If you are looking to become competitive in athletics you may want to be more exact in that area, but just for general fitness and weight loss, the wrist devices may be sufficient. I guess it's a matter of personal choice. Here's a thread from a while ago on the subject, but I like the last post in the thread the best:


www.sparkpeople.com/ma/Heart-rate-monitors
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Good luck with your choice!

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10/14/17 12:10 P

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I love my fitbit, but after wearing a holter monitor for 2 days and seeing the results, I'm not convinced the fitbit tracks my heart rate as accurately as it could lol. Anybody use a heart rate monitor during exercise that you feel is accurate?

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