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Thanks for the info, James.

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AVEHURLEY,
I've been eating Keto for years. So I'll give you my understanding of it.

When you eat carbs, your blood sugar goes up, then insulin comes in to lower blood sugar. Insulin helps get blood sugar out of the blood and into cells, both lean cells (like muscle) and fat cells. The biggest problem is that it gets excess carb stored into fat cells, and insulin pretty much locks up body fat (it is a storage hormone).

Before you start dipping into the fat reserves, you get hungry, ... what do you eat? Bread, chips, ice-cream ... i.e. more carbs ... so insulin comes in to rescue you from high blood sugar, and it can be hard to break this cycle, almost always in storage mode.

If you eat mostly fat and protein and very little carbs, then your blood sugar and hunger are far more even.

Great things to eat on Keto:
- eggs
- cheese
- colourful veggies
- meat (fatty meats are great, like salami ...)

Interesting that you get extra-lean hamburger ... Keto embraces fats, so lean cuts of meat, or lean hamburger are not sought out, but fatty meats are sought out.

Another guiding principle for Keto is to focus on getting the most nutrition at the least calorie cost. Sugar has no nutrients (no protein, no essential fats, no vitamins, no minerals) but it has calories, so it rates the very worst.

I'll give you and example ... vitamin C. Oranges have vitamin C, but so do green peppers. Green peppers have almost four times the vitamin C that oranges do, ... per calorie consumed that is.

I'm happy to chat about nutrition, and Keto ....

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7/14/19 1:12 P

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2 times on the waiting list for bypass surgery.

I was in the waiting & consult period for gastric bypass back in 2003 and after a few appts I began to cut down on food and walk more as I was able to walk back then.
Without the bypass and determined I was eating small portions to try to see what it would be like after the surgery, like pretending I already had it.
I lost 140 lbs in 10 months so didn't get the surgery thinking I finally conquered my eating problem.

Then I got hit by a car and became sedentary at home disabled and gradually went back to comfort foods and diet sodas and weight creeped back upwards over passed 8 years and I regained about 80 of those lost pounds and weight was still climbing.
I used to say I wouldn't let myself go over 300 again but in Oct I reached 306 lbs and by Mar 19th this year at the doctors I had reached 321~

I had already been told that I cant get needed hip replacement unless I lose over a 100 lbs and had gone in October for a consult and got on the list for a gastric sleeve and was accepted into their program but besides the 6 months wait and I have other medical issues that have to be addressed before they can schedule it. I also still have to do the surgery requiring 2 other corrective surgeries first -which has slowed the process + gained weight !.

I began trying supplements for my medical issues mostly for OA and joint problems but also tried 2 recommended supplements to help curb hunger pains as

I cant & wont take diet pills as I have a heart condition ~ but t~ hese two supplements aren't diet pills, just help curb hunger {Caralluma Fimbriota and Garcina Cambogia} so I added them into my daily vitamins and while they do help with hunger they didn't stop me from substituting a bag of potato chips for a meal or a bag of chocolate chips to pinch.So no net loss...

Also I was back up to at least 1 bottle of diet soda a day instead of water so I was basically not hungry but eating a lot of junk! Kind of self destructive I must admit . Was told if I get the other surgeries and tests done that I didn't have to worry about weight loss during this period as I qualified for the gastric sleeve but still had to pass the medical stuff.
I figured ok if I am getting the sleeve which is permanent then I will be losing the weight after I get it. But here is it is July and I was told in Oct I could get it but still haven't finished all the other medical stuff so still waiting.

I read that Organic Sulfur could solve or help with a lot of my med issues in particular joint pain so started searching out supplements and sources and Chicory Root Powder kept popping up in the search along with MSM so looked them up and found them on Amazon and got them.

What I missed about the Chicory Root was it had Inulin and was not just good for a bad gut it somehow helps in weight loss too!

My daughter is doing a Keto type diet in Texas and we talk by ipad daily and she suggested adding some more veggies each day as substitutes for other things I eat to fill up fast on.
I am on a fixed income so some of what she was suggesting seemed not to be as expensive to do so when I was shopping I picked up a dozen bags of 12 oz frozen veggies instead of the little frozen pizzas I used to buy.

I also let the bread run out and stopped buying it , initially used tortillas last month and made wraps til they ran out.

The change was gradual but after running out of tortillas I didn't replace them either so would take a leaf of lettuce and line it with some salami and cheese, roll it up and eat that.

I also started filling 3 liter water jugs with water and got that Great Value version of Crystal light to flavor it and cut down on diet soda and in weeks cut diet soda out and then drink 2 three liter bottles of water a day, one with the flavoring and 1 plain, til I got used to drinking water again instead of soda.

These changes weren't that hard or substantial, but at least I was off the potato chips and eating broccoli , spinach , cauliflower or lettuce instead.

My daughter said on Keto friendly foods are better to eat including sweet cream unsalted butter instead of margarine - so I got butter and stopped the margarine.

Something about good fats helping burn carbohydrates ,so ok it was worth a try so add a tablespoon of butter to the hot veggies before eating them ~

Also sometimes melt a few slices of cheese over them a she said cheese was a good fat and also protein so broccoli and cheese with a bit of butter helps melt the cheese on it and the same with cauliflower and spinach so I can switchup how I eat them but like them all both ways,

She told me I should eat an egg a day or at least 5x a week. So while I was never a breakfast person I began making an egg a day, also with butter and sometimes cheese. Even made an egg with cheese butter and spinach that tasted kind of like a quiche without the crust. I keep hard boiled eggs chopped up fine and in a container to add to salad when I skip breakfast I add the egg to lunch.

Tried adding seasonings like chili and taco seasonings to the cheese when melting over them too so the flavors can be altered enough.

I eat hamburger meat, extra lean and mix that up different ways either in with the veggies or on the side.

I buy more boneless chicken and bake or boil it and convert it in food prep cooked and in containers to add into salad or stir-steams[ same as stir fries but I skip the oil]
I still keep Oscar Mayer Salami in the fridge for those quick bite moments and usually will grab it with a piece of cheese with or without a leaf of lettuce.

Well these were simple modifications and I didn't really consider them 'diet' but certainly satisfying and healthier.

Switching out the foods for others that were easy to prepare or just take from the fridge instead of junk foods is becoming more of a lifestyle change for me.It also set me up for what happened next~!

I began taking 1 scoop of Chicory Root Powder a day, just mixed in water like Miracel or Metamucil. tasteless so no problem taking.

I had a doctors appts and my weights were:
3/19 #321
5/29 #306
6/18 #306
6/19 - started 1 scoop day Chicory Root Powder per day
7/03 #290
7/09 #284

This sudden boost to weight loss is very encouraging and the Chicory Root Powder is something worth considering if you have reached a plateau or just need a jump start to weight loss.

I cant say it does it all as maybe its the combo of what I did to cut out carbs or both but now I look forward to my next weigh in at the doctors next week and want to see how much more I have lost by then. If this becomes sustainable then maybe I wont get the sleeve but for now remain on their list and am attempting to comply with the prerequisites.

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6/29/19 1:32 A

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DH had gastric by-pass 15 to 20 years ago. He had tried everything possible to lose weight and was unsuccessful overall. His pre-op workups included psychological counseling. I don't know if they still do that. He followed directions to a T and was successful in losing the weight. He has more or less maintained since then. He will sometimes add a bit of weight and need to watch and take it off, but no more and no worse than one who hasn't had surgery.

He is very happy with the results. His only regret was that he didn't have it sooner. Consider carefully. You have to be ready to overcome overeating for whatever reason or it won't work.


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MTEREZA,

As part of the preparation for WLS, many doctors have their patients try to lose weight. this is to reduce the risk for any complications during the surgery.

Here's something I suggest. add member INDYGIRL as a spark friend. read her blogs. join her challenges. She was 460+ pounds when she started her journey. She lost half that weight in just over two years,she's working on losing the rest. Like you, she takes things one day at a time.


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Just remember - the surgery is not the be-all and end-all - you still have to do the work. A LOT of people discover that they regain all the weight because they aren't prepared to do the appropriate work. If this sounds like you perhaps having a fair bit of therapy to identify where your problems lie, and set about rectifying the emotional issues would be singly the best thing that you could do. Then you may find that you can lose the weight without surgery, or if you still need it, it may help you deal with the various issues that comes your way.

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6/8/19 6:34 A

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Thank you for these posts. I'm considering it also, but the surgeon I just met with told me it will be 6 months til I can have surgery. I'm very very iffy. I hope in these 6 months to get into the routine so I won't need the surgery. So why don't I follow the lifestyle I know I should? Good question. I'm taking it day by day.

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5/30/19 8:17 P

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My opinion is clouded by my experience as an RN. There are complications that come with this procedure. Educate yourself on what those complications are. I personally would not consider this type of surgery. I have practiced as an RN for almost 30 years. I would exhaust all other avenues before having this procedure. My humble opinion.

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I think no one here can tell you what choice you should make. Be aware that the posts here express just experiences and opinions.




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SNUZYQ2,

I'd like to take a moment to tell you what a marvelous reply that was ! Those are some really wonderful insights about WLS. I hope the OP is still reading this read because you provided a lot of really good information.

I remember when Al Roker, Star Jones and others had admitted that they had WLS. Like you, I noticed that they appeared looked pale and wan. that's a good description. It was terrific that they lost the weight, but personally I do believe the weight came off too fast for their bodies to adapt.

Penn from Penn and Teller, the large one, recently lost a significant amount of weight in a short period of time. He said he was able to go off his meds. but like Al Roker, he looked like a shell of his former self. Not sure if Penn has been able to maintain his loss. I hope so.

I've read that Al Roker is now doing Keto.

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I got very close to getting the gastric sleeve, but was disqualified on account of being too high-risk. It was a huge disappointment to me. One of the "facts" stated by my future surgeon was that only 5% of patients who take off their weight by non-surgical means succeed in keeping their excess weight off over a 5-year period. Among the medical community, weight loss surgery is considered to be the only medically-indicated treatment for obesity that can permanently take off the weight and keep it off.

There was one thing that really bothered me. I noticed on the WLS help boards that many post-surgery patients wrote in asking what diet they should follow to maintain their new healthy weight. They wrote that they seemed to gain weight every time they consumed over 800 calories a day! This made me wonder whether their surgery and sudden weight loss had impaired their metabolism somehow...permanently. Consuming 800 calories or less per day just isn't healthy in any context! Some of the bloggers were years out from their surgery.

All of the post-surgical patients I met in our local support group reported difficulties maintaining their weight loss and most of this was because of emotional eating. It appears that the surgery only addressed their stomachs...they didn't get brain surgery!

None of the members of our local WLS support group regretted their choice to opt for the surgery. I polled them. None of them regretted their choice at any time since their surgery. All of them had very positively-changed lives. But they looked pale and wan. Their skin was sagging everywhere. Many of them were sparsely covered where hair once was and their "dos" looked all scraggly. Many of them were belchy. Some were cranky (I guess we all are sometimes) and had bad breath and bad teeth. And they all reported difficulties getting in their quota of protein per day.

The other thing that bothered me was wondering what happens to these patients when they get old and senile and can't remember what they need to be doing life-long post surgery (there's a lot to remember!). Do these people just die quicker? Would I want this?

Lastly, the surgery is permanent. It can't be undone. A change is made permanently to your anatomy...the anatomy you were born with.

The more I thought about these things, the gladder I became that I wasn't allowed to go through with my surgery. I had been told that the surgery would only take away 60% of my excess weight in one year. For the rest of it, I would be on my own...here on SparkPeople...along with the gang, working it all out.

Since early September last year, I've lost 37% of my excess weight. To lose 60% of my excess weight, I would have to lose a total of 66 pounds. I've lost 40 of those pounds so far. So, I have 16 pounds to go to reach the weight my surgeon promised me I would weigh in a year post surgery. Losing those 16 pounds would make me weigh-in at 199 pounds...still obese for my height of 5'7 inches.

I actually have 70 pounds now that I need to lose to reach a healthy weight. This will take much longer than a year, but I don't mind. It's healthier to lose the weight slowly...no more than a pound or two per week. I'm at a plateau now, but that's OK, too. I'll just outlast it by doing what I know I must do...one day at a time.

Goodness...such a long post. I hope all this helps you somehow. Whatever you decide, we're all here to support you!





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Wishing you all the best as you make this important decision.

Just in case you think you cannot do it with diet and exercise, let me say it can be done. I failed over and over, but finally just decided to keep trying no matter what, and I found that after 5 decades of obesity I could achieve and maintain a normal weight.

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"I'm actually a little scared about how my body will be if I do the surgery"
In what way?


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"Also, have you discussed your possible options with your doctor ?

What ARCH said.

Your Dr/Surgeon is the best source if info for you as it pertains to YOUR health, altho' you are quite rightly seeking comments from those who have had this procedure. Perhaps your Surgeon would be able to put you in contact with some others who have had this surgery, to discuss your fears etc. in person. Some patients agree to speak with potential patients.

Is there a support group close to you that you could attend?

Whatever you chose, I hope that it has a wonderful outcome.

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You may want to join this Spark Team. it's made up of members who have done the gastric sleeve.

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Also, have you discussed your possible options with your doctor ? If not, your doctor can direct you to resources you can use to make an informed decision. Since they know your medical history, they can tell you what your best options are if you choose to go this route.

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any one here done it? I'm thinking about doing it ( I thought about it before but didn't really get very far, I'm actually a little scared about how my body will be if I do the surgery)



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