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10/25/18 1:02 P

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MIAMIRN...great post! thank you for sharing part of your Life...and this Journey.

Like you, I've been around a long time, and sometimes making good progress, sometimes watching a bit of weight return, then reign it in again. One thing I KNOW for certain...is that without Spark being a constant presence, I would not be where I am healthwise. This was poignantly brought to my attention at a recent 3 day gathering of old friends I have known since childhood...!! They are the same age as I, but some are so different in their attitudes and health. Go for a walk? "Who me?" compared to the gal waiting for a knee replacement: "Of course!" Those same ones who have let themselves follow the no exercise path have recently moved into Senior Living because "they know they will need it soon." While we all face different health issues... I know for a fact that they don't have any major health issues...only self brought on obesity. Its attitude and orientation....

We each get to choose our path, but we reap the rewards also...
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10/23/18 8:34 A

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Weight loss is best done gradually if you want it to be permanent. It took me a very long time (almost 6 yrs ) to lose only a little over 50 lbs, but boy do I feel better, look better and am much, much healthier. I am just a few lbs from maintenance.what kept me going is I never gave up. I made a promise to myself and my Lord and I kept it through this and thin. It was quite demoralizing to see me not losing weight for several years. I finally figured out what kinds of food I could eat for the rest of my life and reduced the volume/calories for weight loss. I tried several differrent dietary lifestyles. I ended up with a low Klycemic, Mediterranean diet. I found the foods delicious and the the plan easy to follow. It’s also a diet highly recommended to reduce inflammation and good for your heart and vessels. The low klycemic part I found necessary not necessarily for weight loss (though it did help a lot) but to further reduce my body’s inflammation. I have chronic inflammatory diseases. What helped me a lot was joining the 5% weght loss challenges. They have one every season. Now I’m doing to Fall 5% Challenge. The object is to lose 5%of your own weight in 8 weeks. At first I didn’t lose 1 lb! It was demoralizing. I saw plenty other members more active than me, tracking more than me and participating in chat and the mini challenges more than me. I was in denial. Seeing all those members succeeding year in and year out gave me the opportunity to follow in their foot steps. They were good models. I can’t say it was easy. There were many more failures than I thought would happen to me. I was frustrated a lot and thought it would never happen. In the long run it all paid off. I just never gave up. My recommendation to you is don’t look at the small things, look at the big picture. You will find the right food plan for you, the right exercises you enjoy doing and the right way of perceiving your journey. I admit it’s hard to stay positive, but if you keep on trying, you’ll meet your health goal. Just set your eyes on the long term goal, enjoy the site, come to it daily, get involved I promise you, you will lose the weight, it will nor return and you will achieve a much healthier state of wellness.

Blessins, prayers and good luck to you

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10/19/18 3:42 P

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Nice that you got a inexpensive lifetime membership! It is now $4.99 every month. Would you say that it is worth $60 per year?

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10/19/18 5:00 A

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Just thought I would throw my two cents in here. I am in maintenance and have been for 2 years. I gained a few pounds back and am well on my way to being back where I should be. I don't know if you are a paid Spark member or not. I finally paid after years of using Spark for free. It was a one time $29.95 lifetime fee. Premium Coaching is available for members that pay. I have been doing coaching for 70 days now and it has been extremely helpful. I haven't actually learned a huge amount but the thing I have are invaluable. The great thing is that every day there is a well thought out lesson. I am amazed at all the resources available here on Spark if one only knows how to find them. By using Coaching I have figured out how to use many more of those resources. I would give it a shot because it may just help you to figure out a really successful strategy! Sounds like you already have a lot of will power, you may just need to do some fine tuning and Premium Coaching may just give you the edge you need! Here's to success!

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10/14/18 3:35 P

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It took me years to lose a little over 50 lbs. Take into account EVERYONE is different. I am 68. I started lurking on SparkPeople 2012. 2015 I got serious and made a commitment. I had a lot of frustrating failures. Wrong diet for me, wrong foods for me. Learning about myself and what made me tick was the hardest. I tried everything. For years nothing worked. I would lose a few lbs and stay there. I finally found out what healthy eating is, through SP and Medscape research article. I have an advantage. I'm a retired RN. I learned a lot about scientificallly proven medical diet practices that worked and tried on the type that typically worked for patients with my particular chronic diseases. I finally landed on the perfect one for me. It took me two years to lose approx 50 lbs, most by diet alone. I did exercise, but there were months on end where I was too sick to exercise. Now I am more active, I practice Tai Chi (combat style included). I will begin training in competitive swimming soon. Can't wait. I have severe pain, which limits my activity opportunities.

The point I'm trying to make is, even with barriers and obstacles, you can still find your way to losing weight. Just keep on coming here every day. Explore and learn, don't be afraid of failure. Failure is a way of learning what not to do and what TO do! Little by little you will find your way. I promise. Just keep on coming here every day and participate in challenges, meet new people, make friends and have fun. Don't dwell on failure and beat yourself up. It just makes things slower and is depressing.

Easy for me to say, but I have experienced it to be true!

Blessing and good luck to you

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10/13/18 3:48 P

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It takes a long time to put weight on and a long time to get it off. Don't worry about the scale, pick a healthy eating program stick to it and the scales will eventually reflect your efforts.



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10/10/18 7:45 A

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The scale is irrelevant. Your initial so-called weight loss is *water*. Specifically, you first use up glycogen, which is energy stored in your muscles and liver. Glycogen is water soluble, so the weight you first lose is *not* fat, it's glycogen and water. When you hit the plateau, that may mean you're now finally losing fat. However, whenever you fall off the wagon, you typically first replenish your glycogen stores, which means you're also retaining more water. So, yeah, you're gaining weight, but no, it's *not* fat.

Find another way to measure progress. Clothes is a common example. Take a physical and review your blood tests with your doctor (eg. if you're on a diet because of a history of diabetes). Measuring yourself for body fat is another way. Also, not dying is good, too.


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10/8/18 11:48 P

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Good advice from KEELYME (and I'm going to have a look into volumetrics).

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10/8/18 2:48 P

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In my experience, calorie intake plays a much bigger role in weight management than exercise does. You can be active and fit, but also overweight.

As for "eating in excess" I would recommend checking out Volumetrics. It makes the point that too many people gauge food based on quantity/weight, as an absolute, without paying attention to calorie density. They don't feel that they "overeat" but are frustrated that they can't maintain a healthy weight. Per Volumetrics, weight loss is a matter of consuming higher volumes of low-calorie dense foods, and smaller volumes of foods with high density.

As for fitness, while it's great that you do 50 min on the treadmill 6 days a week, you likely need to change up the speed, intensity and/or type of exercise to keep making progress.

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Jill, I looked at your page, and have no idea how much you want to loose, and so no idea how long that will take.

But you probably put it on over a long time. If so, it will take a while to come off. But the main thing is to change your habits, and not think that it doesn't matter. Like you might as well have that lemon cheese cake because it doesn't matter. IT DOES MATTER.

I'm glad that you already are eating better, and you enjoy exercise!

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10/4/18 1:11 P

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thank you so much James ! that is wonderful advice. If I keep doing healthy things I will get healthier. I am enjoying the exercise and eating better. That is what matters right now. It might take a couple of years but I believe the weight numbers will change too.

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Jill,
the number on a scale is just that, a number. One number does not define your health.

The creator of the Ideal Protein diet (one that I no longer follow, but did for about 5 months) said that what you really want to do is:
- wear the clothes you want to wear, not ones just because they fit
- do the things you want to do
- not suffer

No numbers. Indeed if your clothes feel better (looser) then you are on the right path.

Do keep in mind that weight loss is not super fast, probably about 1/10 of a pound a day. Easily hidden by other fluctuations, like what you ate for supper yesterday still in mid-digestion.

Weight loss is not linear, it is zig-zag. So just stay on your path. I think you are going to be shocked (in a good way) when you get your official weigh-in.



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10/4/18 9:49 A

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Hi James- at first I weighed myself everyday. Didn't see much loss - down a 3-4 pounds - then a few days later - back at the same weight. Didn't get too frustrated knowing it takes time. Went on vacation the last week of August- exercised some - (not every day - but every other day) ate and drank - but not to what I'd consider great excess. Felt bloated and didn't get on the scale for a week or so after we got back - right back at same weight I started on 7-8.
I haven't weighed myself since early Sept. Don't plan on it either - I have my physical on Nov 1 and won't be able to avoid it then.
I do feel better in all my clothes. I do notice a change how things fit (better) and have had 2 people who only see me every few months comment that I look like I've lost weight.
The most important thing for me to avoid right now is being discouraged and I'm not. I know this is going to take time.
I have been measuring and logging the last few days and that helps too.
As well as the support here.

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So you started your exercise on July 8, and right now its getting close to three months from that start. How often have you weighed yourself? Do you have any idea of what is happening there?

What about your clothes? The waist on your pants?

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10/2/18 3:48 P

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thanks for the responses. I have been logging my food on spark people - I do need to get a battery for my kitchen scale though. I am not consistent in my logging though - and I do go over allotted calories sometimes - not every day - but weekends usually.
I can't lie and say I'm not disappointed about lack of weight loss but I know I am older now and it won't be as easy (hence the 50-60 pound weight gain over the last 16 years). I could also stand to eat less carbs - I do love my bread (homeade egg mcmuffin for breakfast - 230 calories - would be better off with south beach egg "muffin"and a sandwich for lunch- again not super high in calories - but, those useless carbs...)
thanks again for all the advice and encouragement.

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Jill,
I agree with the others on this discussion.

You certainly are on a great exercise routine, 6 days a week, and for many many weeks now.

What about food? You know you've eaten too many calories some times. How do you know, are you counting calories (grams of fat, protein, carbs ?), or weighing what you eat, or is it just a feeling?

I think what you eat is as important as exercise, actually I think it is more important.

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10/1/18 10:48 P



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I wasn't in my calorie range 100% of the time, but I still managed to reach my goal, and have since been maintaining for a few years. There has been the odd time that my calorie consumption for the day was well into the 2,000's but most of the time it is around 1500. If I stuck to that 1500 100% of the time, I would still be losing which I don't want to do.

By having my occasional 'over' days, it prevents me from feeling deprived which is a big factor for a lot of people chucking in the towel.

I very seldom weigh myself, and when I do it is only at my Medical Centre, immediately after visiting the loo, and prior to lunch. I also take the weight of my clothes into account.

There are many ways that you can use as a guide as to whether you are succeeding - here are a few:

How your clothes fit
Your energy levels
Your fitness level
The condition of your hair and skin
The quality of your sleep
Your BP and Blood Results if they were problematic
People commenting on how you look (often, initially they don't realize why, just that you look better)

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10/1/18 2:13 P

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Thank you everyone for the responses. I really appreciate you all taking the time and giving me great advice. I have to say I have not been 100% within my calorie range all the time. And I love the advice about using a pair of pants as a guide - and I do have a few things that are fitting better. I've also had a couple of people ask if I have lost weight. I know this is a lifestyle change and that gives me comfort - if I keep up with the healthy exercise it can only be a positive thing regardless of the scale. Thank you all again very much.

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Hi, Jill !

I agree with the others, you don't have to get on the scale. When I decided I needed to lose weight, I weighed myself once just so that I knew where I was starting.

How did I know I was losing weight ? I used a pair of pants that I couldn't hike up over my hips. I used those pants as my guide. I did what everyone does when they want to lose weight. I started watching what I ate. I learned to read labels. I cut out junk. I exercised regularly. etc.

Each week or every couple of weeks, I'd try on the pants to see how I was doing. It took me about 4 months before I was able to put the pants on and button them. When I got to that point, I weighed myself.

Do you have a pair of pants that don't fit ? Why not use those as your guide. If you're losing inches, you're losing fat.

The scale is only one way to measure your success and it isn't always the best. yes, losing weight is great. BUT losing inches is too. lowering your blood pressure is a huge health benefit. same with lowering your blood sugar or cholesterol.

There is more to good health than a number that stares at us from between our toes in the morning. if you tie your emotions to what the scale says, don't get on the scale.


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JILL1013,

You do not have to weigh yourself. It can be a useful tool to assess progress; but, there are other ways (like LuAnn mentioned) such as taking key measurements, checking how your clothes are fitting, etc. Having said that, I would recommend that you track your nutrition for the next few weeks especially to see if you are really staying within recommended nutrition ranges. If you maintain a good combination of eating within range and doing your fitness, you will see results!

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10/1/18 11:59 A

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Congratulations on your 3 month exercise routine... that is great.

That said, are you weighing and measuring all you eat, and are you staying WITHIN your Spark-generated calorie range?
You cannot out exercise an improper diet.

There is no rule that you have to weigh at all. You can track inches lost instead.

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On July 8th I began an exercise regimen - 50 minutes (3 miles) on the treadmill 6 days a week. I've been successful at keeping that regimen and have also found that because of the work I'm doing - I'm eating better so as not to sabotage any good weight results.
Hence my problem. The last time I got on the scale (about 10 days ago) - I'd lost nothing. I would like to lose 60 pounds - which would put me at still overweight by BMI standards - but not by much. I am 52 and a woman so I know it won't be like it was in my 20's when I could eat nearly anything I wanted as long as I exercised.

I'm afraid that getting on the scale may cause me to give up - as it's been 3 months since I started this exercise routine. Any thoughts on how to manage the weight frustration and do I have to weigh myself? (I do have a doctor's appt Nov 1 so I know I'll have to get weighed then)
Thanks in advance for any thoughts.

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