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ELENAJAS1 Posts: 8
7/19/18 9:43 P

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@URBANREDNEK

Oh! I it’s saw your post with the math! That’s so smart!!! I was trying to figure out how much per size lol! I think you’re pretty spot on, I was such an apple so my bottom was smaller than my top, which makes me wonder if your higher 28 size guesstimate was right. Looking back it’s hard to believe I weighed that much and have lost that much but I do have photos and lol they are the truth. Thank you for the time and thought you put into your answer. It’s reallt helped!

ELENAJAS1 Posts: 8
7/19/18 9:38 P

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Thank you. So much. You are right, I have struggled and changed a lot. I don’t know my starting weight but I know I’m at least 100 pounds down, and very likely a good deal more than that—probably closer to 150. I am a bit over five seven and I have a large chest lol and you are totally right —where I used o be more apple shaped now I am more evenly spread out. I also do things like Soulcycle and so I have strong leg and arm muscles. I wear 12s from all brands but I also fit a few 10s and of course I still have some 14s that I haven’t parted with yet but manufacturers vary in cut and sizing.

Thank you for supporting me so much. I really appreciate it. It means a lot to me in this journey.

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7/19/18 9:33 P

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Yes I’m definitely a 12. I do fit in a few 10s lol but I’m sure that’s just size variations. When I was about 220-225 I was a 14. But I’m also a bit over 5’7” and while I used to be very apple shaped, I’m now more evenly shaped and I have large boobs and strong legs muscles especially. Muscle weighs more than fat. But you aren’t alone in your surprise. Even my doctors always assume I’m like 170 and try to move the scale down and are surprised. I guess it’s the strong muscle mass and the height and boobs lol.

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7/19/18 4:37 P

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Well, I guess I never really care what size I wear, just so I'm comfortable. And those weights corresponded with those sizes yesteryear and today. Anybody else ever keep track of weight and sizes? Most of my shorts are Gloria Vanderbilt or Lee.

I, too, want the OP to feel good about herself; sorry if it looked like I didn't. It was just an observation. We are all on the same journey here.

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URBANREDNEK Posts: 4,377
7/19/18 4:29 P

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Honestly, 194 lbs in a size 12 sounds perfectly reasonable to me --- for someone who is 5'7" or taller, and who has a very low body fat percentage, and who has the body-type that carries weight evenly over the body. Body type makes a HUGE difference in what size a person wears at a particular weight!

Back a few decades ago, when clothing sizes were different from now (I believe it is something like a 1980 size 12 would be a 2018 size 8 or so --- aaah, vanity sizing) I weighed about 195 lbs, was 5'9", and wore a size 12 THEN (which would be a size 8 or 10 now). I was very muscular, had very high bone density, very low body fat, and carried my weight very evenly. I had a 27" waist at the time.

Even after I lost a lot of my muscle and gained a lot of fat, I wore a size 18 comfortably up to 260 lbs (and that was a 2012 size 18) --- and that wasn't tight, or restricting, or elastic waist (my business formal clothing was all size 16 or 18, and definitely well fitted).

I currently vary between 147-155 lbs, have lost a bit of height, and wear a size 6 or size 8 in jeans (depending on the make --- and I have some size 4 dress pants and dresses that also fit beautifully).

Since the Original Poster has been working very hard at changing their body and their lifestyle for a long time, I have no doubt whatsoever that they now fit comfortably in a size 12 --- and have a corresponding high muscle amount and high bone density and a body type that carries the weight quite evenly.

Sir Terry Pratchett:

"Science is not about building a body of known 'facts'. It is a method for asking awkward questions and subjecting them to a reality-check, thus avoiding the human tendency to believe whatever makes us feel good."


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7/19/18 11:47 A

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Weighing 194 and a size 12? That can't be. I weigh 140 and wear a 12 comfortably.
I have found the following over the years (and I'm 5'4")

When I weighed 120-size 8
130-size 10
140-size 12
150-size 14
160-size 16
170-size 18
My highest weight several years ago, was 174. That's when I was uncomfortable in button pants/shorts, I went to elastic waist. After getting yelled at by my doctor, he put me on short term phentermine, lost an immediate 10 lbs. Coupled with low carb, I went down to 140 and hover around there now.


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7/17/18 11:21 A



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Hey, Elena !

At my highest weight, I weighed 234 pounds. Back then, I wore size 18 pants. that was the largest size I would admit to wearing. I didn't want to face the fact that those 18s were tight and I needed to go into a 20.

Long story short, like you, spent years losing the weight until where I am now. As I mentioned in my previous reply, pants do come in different sizes. Just as an example, I have pants in sizes 6, 8, 10 and 12. They are all the exact same waist/hips.

that's why I mentioned you can't rely on clothing "sizes". this is because you may be a size 16 in one brand and a size 14 in another. Clothing manufacturers have different size conventions. that's why I have to try on pants. I can't just grab a size whatever off the rack because it might not fit. This is true for most women and plenty of men too.

Now, just from my own experiences with weight loss, what I noticed is that in order to fit into the next size down, I needed to lose about 10-15 pounds per size.

Also, as you fit into smaller sizes, the amount of weight you might need to lose could be smaller. Going from say a size 18 to a size 16 might require you to lose 20 pounds. But going from a 12 to a 10 might be 10-15.

That's why I'm trying to emphasize that you shouldn't get hung up on size numbers. There really is too much variation.

What you do is try on different pairs of pants or dresses. You pick what suits your current figure. then you cut off the size tag. what really matters is not the size, but the fit of the clothing.

You've already lost a lot of weight. You've probably noticed that you fit some brands better than others. that's perfectly normal.

As far as how much you need to continue to lose, that really should be dependent on what you need to weight to be healthy. If you have a large bone structure (large frame), you can weigh more than someone who is a lighter build.

I would describe my frame as good peasant stock. LOL. I will never have the body of a ballet dancer. it's just not how I was built. Some people when they lose weight they choose a number that's too low for their frame.

See what your body does as you continue to lose. Don't force your body into a certain size. Let you body do what it wants to do naturally. Our bodies are really smart about these things.





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7/17/18 8:32 A

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From the info that you put here (size 24 for 308lbs down to size 12 for 194lbs), it looks like you drop 1 size on average for each 20lb change.

Since most sizing isn't linear in changes, it is likely that you dropped 1 size for 30lb changes towards the higher weight, and then 1 size for closer to 10lb changes as you got smaller.

With this in mind, you could guesstimate that from 308lbs / size 24, you would have worn size 26 at around 338-345 lbs, and a size 28 at around 375-380lbs.

If you think back to how you felt in your clothes back then, and can remember if you wore them really baggy and loose --- or if they felt tight and constricting and uncomfortable because you didn't want to look for another size --- then you can better guess whereabouts you were in the weight range. If the clothing was very tight, then you could have been up closer to 400 lbs --- if very loose, then down closer to 350 lbs.

Kudos on making the changes you have for a healthier and happier YOU, and for having the good sense to analyze your own personal motivations and stresses to change your approach as needed.

Edit to Add: I just realized that this guesstimate shows that you have already lost HALF of your original size! You obviously have made some tremendous changes towards living a healthy lifestyle, and are committed to enjoying those changes for a very, very long time. You should be incredibly proud of not just what you have done (which is amazing) but even more so on recognizing that you have reached a point in your emotional and mental health that you can look at the reality of where you came from and then see where you are now and where you want to be. What an incredible journey you are on!

Edited by: URBANREDNEK at: 7/17/2018 (12:15)
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ELENAJAS1 Posts: 8
7/17/18 7:45 A

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Can* make an approximation. (Darn autocorrect! Lol)

ELENAJAS1 Posts: 8
7/17/18 7:42 A

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MLAN & ARCH—thank you so much for your replies. I think maybe I was unclear. Let me clarify.

I weight 194. I’m a size 12. I have lost a lot of weight. But I have no point of reference of what my weight was when I started this journey bc at a size 28 I didn’t get on the scale. I struggle with an eating disorder and the scale wasn’t my friend. However, at this point of continuing to try to lose and encourage myself, I need to remind myself of how far I have come. For my journey that means having an approximate starting weight.

So I know that many women will be different weights in a size 28 and at five foot seven height—there’s lots of factors like you mentions such as muscle tone etc. I’m an apple shape so I was heavier on top than bottom. I was wearing 3x and some 2x on top and a size 28. But if I can get a lot of answers from different women who are my height and wear or wore a size 28, then I can take the average and get an idea or approximation of what I may have weighed back then. It isn’t perfect but it would at least give me an idea.

For more info, as I mentioned I’m an apple shape, and when I was 276-308 pounds I was wearing a size 24 or so. So I know I was about two sizes heavier but no idea what my weight was.

I appreciate all the help and advice. I just hope to get some answers so I can’t make an approximation of what I may have weighed (or around what) back then.

Thank you!!!!

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7/17/18 6:45 A

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This is the response I made on your exact same thread in the SparkCafe:

"I am not sure this is possible. You may be able to find others of the same height with that size but even at the same height, body structures (bone structure, short versus long waisted, muscle amount, etc) so their weight for a size 28 may be different than yours."

Per usual, Arch has given great information as well.

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7/17/18 5:56 A



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Hello, Elena !

Welcome to Spark People !

Okay, you're 5 ft 7" tall, but how much do you weigh ?

I can wear a size 28 waist pants. I'm about 5ft 4 inches tall, 125 pounds. Does this mean that every woman who wants to wear a size 28 pants should weigh 125 pounds ? OF COURSE NOT.

Women come in different sizes and shapes. Pants come in different sizes too. I have a pair of 29 and 28 size pants. Which size do you think is bigger on me ? Guess what, the 29 is a tad tight. the 28s are loose.

There are variation in pants sizes. In order to get the right fit, you have to try on different sizes. Plus, there is lean muscle. Because I strength train, I carry more lean muscle than the average American woman. Muscle is dense and takes up less space than fat. That means that someone the exact same weight and height as me might not fit a size 28 pants. Why ? If they carry more body fat, fat takes up more space than muscle. It's all about volume.

anyway... the point... we need more information to help you.

What are you trying to do ? Do you want to fit back into size 28 pants ? If so, what have you been eating ? If you've been eating poorly, then you need to learn to start eating more healthfully.

How old are you ? How much do you weigh ? How much are you trying to lose ?
what are you eating ? what are you doing for exercise/strength training ?


ELENAJAS1 Posts: 8
7/16/18 11:41 P

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Help! I don’t know my highest weight as I didn’t get on a scale back then. I was five seven or slightly over, and a size in pants 28.

Can you help? If you were ever my height and a size 28 pants please share your weight so I can figure this out. Thank youuuuu ❤️❤️❤️ (Wasn’t sure where to post this thread)

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