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I completely understand not wanting to talk about your weight loss. I hate that too. I just try to smile, say tank you, and change the subject.

It is frustrating when you are doing everything right and that needle keeps creeping up. Try not to stress about it. I know myself and know how I would be driven by numbers, so I had someone else weigh me and not tell me. I just wanted someone checking. I went from 312 to 186 before I knew my numbers.

There are simply periods in this long process that seem to defy logic. Since I have begun knowing my numbers, I have experienced what you are going through so many times. Even with those 180s. I did everything right for ages. And I just kept houncing between 186 and 189 for months. And then the needle moved. I guess persistence is the answer, but it is hard to persevere when you get no results or feel depressed.

My advice is to carry on. Sooner or later, probably later in your case, the needle will begin to move again.

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To those you know well perhaps you can say something like I'm struggling right now (with or without specifying due to health issue/water retention) and really don't want to talk about success. To those you don't know, just say thanks and move on.

No wonder you are frustrated. It is a very frustrating situation. I hate those tiny gains and it truly seems very unfair when it is due to medication and health issue.

Hang in there. If you can keep living as healthy as you can, it will pay off eventually. Find other ways to reward yourself for eating right and doing what you should to take care of yourself, especially because the scale is being so unfair with you right now.


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Tirza,
loose the weight for your health. Don't worry about what other people think. If they compliment you on weight loss, just take the compliment. Why would you feel bad about those comments? Only you know the answer.

As for foods. I myself am a low carb person, I eat that way because I'm a type-2 diabetic.

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I find I have not been drinking my water every day when this happens to me



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Tirza, I, too, take a BP med that has an HCT in it. Talk to your doctor before you limit your salt intake. I know I weigh more b/c of water retention and salt, but my sodium is low b/c of the diuretic. So, check with him/her b/c we do need a certain amount of sodium. I weigh myself daily; to either cheer myself on or keep myself in check!

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I take two BP meds (calcium blocker and a diuretic) together to keep it manageable. The diuretic one alone usually has the fewest side effects. I hope to get to the point where I can just take that one but I'm trying to accept that may never happen.

I am not a food person. I probably eat the same 20 things in the rotation unless work provides lunch against my will. However, I'm okay with varying it if I find something I really want. I love baking but I don't need to eat it. I like the making of it.

I hope you lose the need for meds soon. It's always better if you can.
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I am so sorry to hear that you are going through such a frustrating time with all of this. I am currently on a diuretic for hypertension. My BP has fluctuated on the high side since my early 20s, and I finally gave in earlier this year (at age 47) to use the diuretic as a start. I had been resisting it for quite a while, telling my doctor that I keep hoping that I will lose enough weight to where I won't need any kind of BP meds, and she said, well, I had been using that reason for a while and still hadn't lost the weight, so I felt I no longer had a good enough argument.

I get so bored with food, I wouldn't be able to eat the same things all the time (probably one of the reasons my weight loss has been slow), especially since I have not had the time that I had before in order to exercise like I used to. I had a friend who would only eat chicken breasts or steaks, and broccoli, and cottage cheese. Every day. At least for two meals a day. Sure, he maintained his weight very well, but I would be bored to tears to eat like that forever.

It sound like you are doing everything you possibly can. Wishing you the best!



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6/19/17 10:01 P

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Thanks for listening! I guess I mostly just wanted someone to hear how frustrated I am.

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My step count is also lower on days when it's hotter than heck. I have fought it a couple of times, but ended up regretting it when I felt like blehhhh after a walk in blistering heat.

You could add to your gym time, but you don't want to burn yourself out either! Maybe you just see where you can add some small changes.. five minutes here, a couple hundred steps there. Because honestly, it sounds like you are doing everything right. You've had success, but now you are on a medication that makes you retain water, AND it's hot as %%## outside where you are. Maybe some tweaks wherever possible will make up for the at least the difference of the 3-6 ounce gains and result in maintenance, and eventually the edema will go down.

I'm so sorry you feel like you're swimming upstream! But you've made it so far! Please keep us posted if we can do anything to support you!



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I try to keep an average of 10,000 steps a day. Sometimes more, sometimes slightly less. I have a fit tracker I wear daily to track my steps and heart rate. I was doing about 12,000 steps a day but the summer heat is boiling.

But it has been in the 90s+ here. I use to walk the dogs around 2 miles a day on top of the gym but the dog can't (and I) can't take the heat right now.

I feel like I'm swimming upstream.

Maybe that's what's making it worse. I really hate the thought of more gym time but maybe that's what I'll have to do.
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I feel like my clothes everything is too tight and it's very hot here.

I hate the attention to the weight by people. It makes me self-conscious. When I was 263 pounds, I really never thought about what people thought of my weight. I didn't feel ugly. I did what I wanted until the weight got in the way. When it started to bother my health, I decided to change it.

When people go on and on and on about ow much weight I've lost and how good I look now...it makes me feel horrible. It's like they always thought I was ugly and unattractive and only now that I'm losing weight am I interesting.

It also makes me feel like a failure as I've been stalled out half way so the last thing I want to do is spend and entire event with them asking me exercise, food and weight loss questions. Does no one have hobbies any more? I'm made to feel like unless I keep the weight off I'm not a worthwhile human being.

I actually feel worse about myself now than when I was heavier.

T


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This sounds insanely frustrating!

I know it feels like you are fighting an uphill battle. I mean, you have a lot of stuff going against you right now. My boyfriend is on BP meds; they make him soooo tired. I have been on antidepressants.. those made ME tired, and they increased my appetite, and they resulted in a lot of weight gain.

I'm not pointing these things out to discourage you, but if anything, I think it's impressive with all of this going against you have been able to stay strong as long as you have and only gain 3-6 ounces per week. Consider the fact that if you gave up, you'd be gaining a pound per week, if not more (depending how "hard" you give up!)

And furthermore, even though you are gaining weight -- which really seems to be water retention -- people think you look thinner. Have you been keeping track of measurements? You can gain "weight" but not actually change size. (Heck, I've seen my weight go down, but my pants get tighter! ) Why do you hate when people ask what you are doing? You don't have to tell me that, but I think it's worth exploring (and if you happen to have a therapist, that would be a great place for it). Do you feel shame, or like a fraud, or angry that you are treated differently than before? I mean, I don't think you deserve to feel like any of those things! But, it would be perfectly valid if you did. Again, you don't have to tell me/us, just something to think about.

I can completely understand why the scale going up to 200 makes you feel like a failure, but you are absolutely not a failure. I mean, next time someone says "You look great, what are you doing?" I'd just reply to them with obnoxious honesty. "Well, I've been working my BUTT off, and frankly I don't like talking about it, weight loss is boring, can we move on to other things?" There are plenty of ways to frame it, you don't have to talk about it.

As far as practical advice, the only thing I wonder is if the fact that the meds make you tired has decreased your overall activity levels. Do you have a pedometer? When I gained a lot of weight on aforementioned meds, I figured out later on it was because I'd probably reduced my daily activity calories burned by 100-200 calories per day, based on how much less I was moving. I know that unfortunately the answer isn't "Just move more!" because you are forcing yourself to do just what you are already doing. It's hard when you don't have energy to do ANYTHING, but maybe this is something that you can try to focus on -- moving more during the day, a little bit at a time. (Of course, feel free to ignore this if you are already moving plenty when you're not at the gym!)

Once again, let me just reiterate that you have a lot going on now, and I'm impressed that you are staying as strong with it as you are. I know you feel like a failure and I know you feel like giving up, but just remember.. giving up now will probably result in some massive backsliding. You have great goals ahead of you; fight through this the best you can. We're rooting for you.

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I already keep to a 1400 calorie a day lifestyle. I hate pasta. I never eat it. I don't each much bread unless I make biscuits. I like to make them from scratch once a month or so. I love baking.

I do like crackers but I count them out and buy unsalted.
I like graham crackers as well but I stopped eating them as they weren't worth the calories.

I usually eat my meat grilled and unbreaded. Also normally unsalted. However, I do like the occasional breaded chicken patty from Omaha steaks. I can rarely afford these and have them maybe one or twice a year.

I was absolutely addicted to potato chips but I've cut them down drastically as my doctor wants me to reduce salt. I have them weekends only and 1 serving (15 to 17 chips) and do count them out in a baggie. And that is only if I can stay in my salt ratio for the day.

Since I love baking, I often experiment with biscuit recipes, cornbread or dough. If it turns out, I share the bulk at work or with the neighbors who watch my dogs. If it's bad, trashcan. I try to keep my baking (which I really enjoy) to once a month.

Biscuits are my favorite. Sometimes I will put them in a sealed tin and have them during the week. But I never bake more than 12 and I try to give away half. I also calculate the calories in them by ingredients and servings.

Other than that...I'll have to check carbs as I don't eat much-processed food anymore. Work has been providing lunches lately which has been hell on my salt intake but I'm dealing with it. As these are 'working' lunches and I don't get to pick the food and I don't have the option to bring my own food. Mostly Moes (ugh) and I eat black beans and grilled chicken alone since it is al-a-carte.




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You don't have to give up carbs to lose weight. I'm assuming when someone says carbs, you mean things like bread or pasta. I'm here to say that I lost all the weight eating bread and pasta. My problem was not that I was eating too many carbs when I was morbidly obese. My problem was that I was eating way too much of everything. I was eating way too much pasta and way too much junk.

In order to lose, I had to learn to practice portion control. I could never give up eating bread. I love it. But, I could reduce my portion size. which is what I did. I had to learn to be more mindful of how much I was eating. I ate less bread and less pasta. At one time, I could easily eat a half a box of pasta at a sitting. that's over 4 servings at 220 calories each. Today, I eat one serving instead of the four.

I also learned to increase the amount of fresh fruit and veggies I ate. There was a time, French fries and broccoli were my only veggies. these days, I can easily eat 6-9 servings.

You don't have to completely cut out foods you love. but if those foods are high calorie, then you must be careful of the portion size. Take muffins. when I was morbidly obese, I could eat 1-2 day. At 500-900 calories each, no wonder I was fat. Today, I rarely eat a muffin. if I do, it has to be a very small one. no more jumbo muffins for me. so I'm not deprived, but I do try to be careful.


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I averaged the list six days, 1433. 2234 on average.



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I just feel I'm having to change everything I like. I can cut carbs I guess. I just one more thing I have to give up that I like.

I feel like it's all me losing things I like and getting little in return.



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I would imagine that 1200 calories at your weight and with exercise involved would be too low. On average what daily calories to you consume. I know you mentioned a range but where in that range do you mostly eat?

Another thing that MIGHT be worth trying is slightly lowering carbs. I'm not suggesting going low carb but sometimes some people tend to eat quite high in carbs. This can (partly) cause some people to retain fluid, too.

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This is the fifth medicine I've tried. It is the one that has had the fewest side effects. If I switch again, I'll to take yet more days off work over and over as they mess with it.

They all have side effects. It is just finding one with side effects you can live with. It is why I really, really didn't want to be on BP meds. I already take an anti-depressant and allergy meds. I went through this my mood meds to find one I could live with (took years).

My insurance won't cover a dietician...and I also don't have the days/time to see one at least not this year. I've used a lot of my vacation days for doctor's visits. I don't want to waste more vacation days on this.

I have played some with calories. Twelve hundred calories a day makes me cranky, hungry and I get obsessed with food. I could try it again. I probably do need to lower my calories again but, right now, I don't feel deprived. Once I go under 1400, I feel deprived.

Doctor says lose a minimum of 25 more pounds. She gave me a sheet on porton sizes and a low salt diet. Blah. Stuff I already had. She tells me that it is water weight gain as I adjust to the meds and it'll even out...it is not.

Sorry to always be depressing. I'm just in a blue mood. I just feel like I'm always working, always counting calories, always at the gym. I'm not just seeing an end game where the benefit is worth this amount of work. Maybe tomorrow it'll be a better day.



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Talk with your Dr about the medication/weight issues. It is possible there may be a different medication that will do what is being intended, but without the side effects. It would also be beneficial to talk with your Doctor about where your mood is going. An eye needs to be kept on it.

Also, asking for a referral to a Registered Dietitian would be helpful. This is what they spend years of studying for.

Have you played around within the range of calories that you have been given?

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Currently listed as 1400 to 1600 calories a day.
This has worked for me well at first.

Eating at 1200 calories leaves me hungry and cranky.

But I work out five days a week (elliptical/treadmill-5 and weights-3days).

The weight loss was slow and annoying but it moved. Now I'm going backwards.

My goal was to lose weight so I wouldn't need BP meds. I lost over 60 pounds---and my blood pressure got worse so I ended up on meds anyway.

My doctor wants me to lose more which is fine I guess. I'd be happy staying at this weight. I like this weight. The BP meds just make it all harder as I'm retaining water and it eggs on my anxiety. I've been thinner before and never really liked under 170. I'm at 200. This is the top range of the weight I like. I can shop regular stores and do anything I really want to do I'm having trouble finding the motivation to go forward on top of everything else.

I cut my caffeine down to 1 caffeinated beverage a day. I doubled my water. I do have one Body Armour Juice Lyte a day (usually) but I count the calories. No alcohol.

I'm not perfect. I eat things I probably shouldn't on some days but I COUNT the calories as it's a lifestyle, not a diet. I count everything including my reduced sodium ketchup.

I struggle with depression off and on. I think part of me is having trouble remaining interested in weight loss. No matter how much I do, it doesn't seem to be enough and it's so much work. I'm having to force myself to the gym the last few weeks. I'm so tired (med side effect).

Now I hate myself a little because I'm whining again. I have no one to talk to either about the struggle with my weight so I get stuck in my head. A loop.

And yeah, I don't particularly want to talk to people about how great my weight loss is as I don't feel any joy in it right now.


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TIRZAHLOU,
we are on at least one common spark team, but your spark page is private, so I can't figure out which team.

You wrote that you are staying in you calorie range. Do you have a digital scale with a zero-out feature, so put the plate on the scale, zero-out, put food item one on the scale, weight it, zero-out, on to food item 2 ...

Weigh your drinks, and use the nutrition labels, ... really count every calorie as accurately as you can.

Just what is your calorie range?

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Hi,

I started a medication that causes edema (water retention). I take this med and a diuretic, although the diuretic doesn't do much. Since I've started these meds...my weight has crawled up 3 to 6 ounces a week. If it was a flat gain due to the water weight--fine, it would suck but I'd get over it.

It was so hard, so hard to get under 200 pounds. I was down to the 197.3, now I've crawled back to 200. Every week, 3 to 6 ounces higher. Grr.

I'm staying in my calorie range. I've cut back on my salt. I exercise 5 days a week, a mix of cardio and weights.

I'm frustrated.

Then on top of it, I had to travel down to my niece's wedding shower. I'm seeing people I haven't seen in a while. They keep telling me how great I look, what am I doing.

I hate this.

I really wish they would ignore it. I already feel like a loser as I lost the first half pretty easily but this last half has been a slow march toward nowhere. And it makes me extremely uncomfortable. If it wouldn't give me a stroke (which it might), I'd rather be fat than have this 'you look great, how did you lose the weight' conversation.

I feel like I'm failing and talking about 'success' makes me feel like a liar. I find myself wanting to eat bad things they more they congratulate me.

I guess this is two interconnected issues.
I can't stand the tiny gains, the water retention and I really don't want to talk about 'success' with anyone. Sigh.
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