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1/20/18 11:52 P

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Thank you so much for your time and thoughtful response. I feel you hit the nail on the head and are 100% correct, I need to shift my focus. Thank you again, I really appreciated reading this and I will save it to read again if I start feeling discouraged.

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1/20/18 1:59 P

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You have recently gained, then lost, then regained then relost a very substantial amount of weight. You have also may been starting some hormonal changes. You have little to no weight to lose (when I say little to no weight to lose I am talking under forty pounds or so). Your weight is the running average of what you have been doing for the past months and years, and for you that has been a very turbulent, up and down sort of time. You have to ease up and give your body a chance to normalize a little before you throw something else at it.

Your SMART goals would be great for you, if you weighed an additional 50-100 lbs. I'm not saying that your end goals aren't doable, but you have to give yourself time. You've heard that weight loss is kind of like taking a sheet off a roll of paper towels? You're at the last sheet or two that wrap around the tube three times. You just don't have much left. Your bodyweight can and will fluctuate by up to five pounds per day without you gaining or losing an ounce. This means that it can and will take six weeks of effort before you can really see a pound on the scale. Were you get a stomach bug, entirely empty your digestive tract you could lose ten pounds, but that will come right back on as your digestive tract fills back to normal levels and you rehydrate. You do not have masses of fat left to lose, so it's going to go slowly. People who lose more quickly have more weight to lose. You're down to the really fiddly part and there isn't a fast and quick option for what's going to work for you for the rest of your life.

Probably the best use of your time at the moment is going to be to carve out some time for physical activity that works for you and your budget and your schedule. If the hip and foot are bothering you that much, ask your doctor what you can do to help those joints. It may be that strengthening another area will help take some of the load off. There might be a brace or other support that helps you. Rolling your foot (you can use a water bottle, wine bottle, anything round that you can roll, not just those fancy things you can buy in the store) or learning a new footfall pattern could help. Your doc might suggest avoiding running on uneven brick roads and suggest swimming as a better option for you. Yoga might be something that helps. But focus on some of this physical stuff if you can rather than diet. Consider trying to put on a few pounds of muscle, which is going to be nearly impossible to do if you are trying to lose from a healthy weight at the same time. Having greater muscle mass will increase the calories that you burn and also how many you can consume. I'm not saying your end goal should be to maintain that higher weight forever, just that if you start there it makes the losing math easier on you. When you lose rapidly you lose less fat and more muscle, which means you burn fewer calories. Higher calorie burns come with higher muscle mass, and you have to fuel and use the muscle to keep the muscle. If cutting and cutting and cutting even more isn't getting you where you need to be, try a zag. Gain some muscle, maintain the muscle and then slowly work on some of the fat.

To some degree you will always be a little below average when it comes to calories burn. Females tend to burn fewer calories than men. Shorter people tend to burn fewer calories than taller people. As you age, your calories burned decline. People who have lost weight, particularly through aggressive dietary restriction, tend to burn fewer calories than people who have not had that experience (again, refer back to less muscle, less burned). People who don't work out regularly don't burn as many calories as the people that do. So as far as I can see, you're on the low side on every category there is at the moment. There are some things on this list that you can't control (being female, aging -it's better than the alternative, and your height) but there are some things on this list that you can control, which means you do have a direction that you can choose to try out. It's just a very different and roundabout way than how you are current doing things and it does not match up with your current goals in the least. But it also sounds like what you are doing right now is an unpleasant ride that's not hitting the goals you do have.

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1/19/18 11:42 A

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Have you thought to go to doctor? Maybe it is your thyroid or something causing weight gain.


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1/18/18 1:45 P

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Menopause totally sucks. Metabolism completely tanks after menopause. Your only hope is to build muscle mass. Every one wants to focus on cardio, especially walking. You need to strength train to increase metabolism. High weights with low reps will create more muscle than low weight with high reps which focuses on building muscle stamina.

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1/18/18 8:57 A

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The question I have is are you looking to be a certain weight, or to look a certain way? I am 5'1" and currently close to you in weight. Pounds are now very tough for me to lose, however, inches continue to come off. I run and strength train. You may be at a point that you can't lose any more "pounds", but can still lose plenty of inches by increasing your muscle mass. I eat 1300-1500 calories six days a week and probably 1800 calories on a weekend day.

My point is, you may see 121 on the scale for the rest of your life, but could possibly continue to lose inches and look the way you want to even though your weight is higher than you want. For me, the number on the scale is basically irrelevant. I want to be slim, fit in my clothes and look good, and to me that means inches off my belly, waist, thighs and hips. The key to that is weight training as mentioned by a PP. Good luck.

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1/18/18 8:45 A

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Of curse SP is a motivational and supportive place. I guess what I was trying to say is you need to rethink what you're doing. The definition of crazy is said to doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results.

You aren't losing eating between 1100 and 1300 calories and that honestly is the very least a woman should be eating if they are completely sedentary. You gained eating more? How much more were you eating? 600 calories more per day? 700? Than find a happy medium. You may lose eating 1400 or 1500.

I think Lulubelle hit the nail on the head regarding exercise. I am shorter, too, as I mentioned before. I am currently losing 0.5 to 1 pound a week eating around 1800 to 1900 calories per day on average and I am 45, so about the same age as you and am perimenopausal as well. I am busy too in that I work a full-time job and a part-time job. I exercise at least 1 hour a day. I strength train 2 to 3 times a week.

I guess what I am trying to politely say is are you truly looking to change your body a bit more? If so, you maybe need to find a way to mix things up. Also remember your body may be happy at your current 121.4 weight; it is a healthy weight for your size. Strength training may be a way to add lean muscle and maybe, just maybe those shorts will fit comfortably.

Edited by: MLAN613 at: 1/20/2018 (14:24)
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1/18/18 2:25 A

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If you do strength training, you will increase your metabolism which will allow you to eat more and not gain weight. Yes, weight loss is 80% diet and 20% exercise, but if you are a little person eating at the low end of your suggested calorie range, that 20% counts a lot! You don't need a gym membership, you don't need fancy equipment--you can get a set of resistance bands, or focus on body-weight exercises. There are plenty of videos right here on Spark. One of the super fun things about aging and menopause is the loss of bone density. Weight bearing exercise will slow that process.

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1/17/18 10:25 P

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Thank you. I am glad to know other people are going through the same thing. Throes of menopause?? You mean it's going to get worse?

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1/17/18 8:20 P

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I understand all of this! I was once 5'5" and now at 5'3" -- it makes a difference in BMI. I had lost 93 lbs and have now gained back 11 of those. I know that I am going to log my food and exercise as much consistently FOREVER if I want to keep my loss and maintain a healthy weight. And that is not fair -- my husband can wear the clothes he wore in high school....he eats junk and whenever he wants. However, the only kind of fair in life is that one that comes once a year and has a ferris wheel. Did I mention I like to eat???? But one of the quotes from SP that I love is Losing weight is hard. Maintaining weight loss is hard. Being fat is hard. Choose your hard. I am choosing maintaining weight loss. I will do better some days than others.



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1/17/18 6:45 P

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You said that you are maintaining a healthy weight at 1100-1300 calories.
That is what maintenance is... staying at your healthy weight.
So, yes, if that is the amount you stay steady at, then that is the amount you will be on until you are in the throes of menopause and your metabolism slows.

Unless you increase your activity and more importantly, weight train.

A petite, small boned friend of mine exists on no more than 900 calories a day. She is healthy and she is active. But more calories than that... she gains. She slowed her metabolism in her youth with fad diets and gimmicks, and it slowed even further upon menopause.

Edited by: LUANN_IN_PA at: 1/17/2018 (18:47)
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1/17/18 5:05 P

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Couple things: I did eat more over the holidays. I still tracked everything and was at 1500-1700 with a couple days getting to 1900. That took me out of maintenance mode. I didn't weigh myself again until after new years and I had gone up on the scale. Since then, I went back to the weight I achieved from october.

I joined spark people to have supportive connection with others. I have a very small frame and I would like to be the weight I feel comfortable. Other people may carry their weight differently, that doesn't make me wrong for looking for solutions and understanding and commiseration in achieving my goals ;-)

also, luanne, you say that I am going to have to accept at eating 1200 calories a day for the rest of my life? Or less if my metabolism continues to slow down? That seems very low. I do not want to spend my life like that. I'm asking for some helpful guidance. I feel sad that sometimes this is returned by comments that are less than helpful and questioning why I can't just give up on my goals. If I go over a certain weight, I start having hip and foot pain. Is that enough reasoning for wanting to achieve my weight loss goal? Is it not ok that I just want to fit into my summer shorts comfortably?

Anyway, I want to figure out what is going on and if this is a normal thing for some people. I wish I could be the same as other people who seem to eat 1500 a day and lose weight. Maybe they are taller and have average bone structure. I don't.

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1/17/18 3:43 P

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You currently weigh 121.4? That is a healthy weight for a 5' 1" female. I am 5' 2" and will be happy once I hit the 135 to 140 range which is the top end for me; if I was at the low end I would look sickly, to be honest. I also know that BMI isn't the single guide to a healthy weight. '

I wonder why you think you need to lose these last 10 pounds? Honestly, I would be miserable eating so little; if anything maybe you're eating too little.

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1/17/18 1:59 P

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What does SP say about your calorie recommendation? Sometimes you need to shake things up by changing what you eat and increasing calories. Can’t hurt to try.



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1/17/18 1:39 P

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" wondering if I am going to have to be eating 1200 calories or less the rest of my life just to maintain."
Probably, since eating 1100-1300 calories is keeping you at a healthy BMI.


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1/17/18 9:47 A

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I have posted before about my concerns and I think I really need some encouragement today. I've been on my weight loss journey since july of 2017 and I have lost 20 pounds (Yay!). My frustrations arise because I track all my food on MFP and I am consistent at 1100-1300 calories a day. I don't have a lot of time to exercise, but I am a teacher and I am on my feet and walking campus everyday.

I am almost 47 years old 5'1" (used to be 5'2" shrinking?). I gained 30 pounds in one year during a difficult transition and I guess now perimenopause was also happening.

So it's been 3 weeks since a tiny reprieve from dieting over the holidays on 1200 calories a day. I eat very simple, non processed foods and only drink water or coffee (no cream or sweetener). A sample day for me would include a yogurt and fruit smoothie with chia seeds for breakfast, a salad with 4 oz of protein for lunch and measured portion of salad dressing, and a measured portion of protein and vegetables for dinner. I don't cook with a lot of salt and sugar.

I have not lost any weight in three weeks. I admit, I am no longer overweight and I have a healthy bmi (it's like 121.4), but I want to get the last ten pounds off of me so I can achieve my goal. My son will be graduating from high school this year and I would like to be at my goal by then. I clearly can not cut more calories! I also can not afford gym membership and as a single mother I have not found a regular fitness routine that fits my schedule. I also know that weight loss happens by diet and exercise while it has other benefits, is not the key to weight loss.

So, I know this is a long post, but I really feel frustrated at this endless restricting and measuring and not seeing the shift I have been working so hard for. A side note, I do think I have started menopause now, ugh, but I don't know for sure yet it's only been 3 months. Just really frustrated at this and wondering if I am going to have to be eating 1200 calories or less the rest of my life just to maintain. Thank you for reading all this.

Edited by: KIMOKIKO at: 1/17/2018 (09:48)
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