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1/17/18 5:20 P

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Oh and I agree with the idea about hot tea, I drink that almost every night. Also, I found my trigger times of day and I try to get through that time and I find I will be ok and get back with the right attitude.

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1/17/18 5:16 P

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I love beer.

I love microbrew beer.

If I want to lose weight, I can't drink beer. I can get away with one or two every couple of weeks and maybe lose, but no more than that. I am sorry to say it. I miss it a lot. One of my favorite things to do is have a nice hoppy pint and a slice of pizza. I can even go as far as to tell you that I stopped drinking all alcohol for four months and in that time I lost some weight, but not nearly as much as I expected from all the effort and denial. Good luck. Let me know if you figure out how to drink beer and lose weight.

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1/16/18 9:09 A

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You mention you are looking for something to de-stress at the end of the day. I like a hot cup of non-caffeine tea. Something similar may work for you, but make a ritual out of it. Maybe listen to the water coming to boil while doing some deep breathing. Using a really nice cup or using loose leaf tea so that there is more preparation involved for you to really concentrate on getting it ready. Do something you really enjoy while you are having your beverage--reading some pages of a great book for example. Or maybe a hot bath? Even if only for the amount of time it would have taken you to drink the beer. A 15 minute soak could be something nice to enjoy. I'm just throwing things out here but I'm sure there is something that you enjoy that you have not been doing very often that you could convert into a nightly treat for yourself.

I totally get needing to wind down at the end of a stressful day. You are in the habit of beer, but if you can replace that habit with another that you really enjoy and look forward to you will be able to cut back.

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1/15/18 10:06 A

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@ZRIE014 You have now posted 3 times on this thread. Are you aware that this thread isn't about YOUR beer and tea drinking habits? The OP is looking for help! emoticon

Edited by: MLAN613 at: 1/15/2018 (10:07)
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1/15/18 7:46 A

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i use to drink beer, but now i only have one every once in a while

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1/14/18 11:37 A

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Pack a snack supplement box to keep at your desk. Keep some sort of single serving fruit in there. They have applesauce, pear sauce along with cups containing oranges, pineapple and so forth. You have to read the labels when you buy them, but they last a decent amount of time and are cheaper and better than most of what is in the snack machine at work. You can also do dried fruit or nuts or a mix, but you really have to pay attention to serving size as well. Dried vegetables and popcorn (buy just the kernels and a microwave popper) are things that you can eat in higher volume. They make pouches of seafood and tiny cans, sometimes tat also come with crackers. If you have fridge space and will actually eat them you can keep fresh vegetables, dips like hummus, fresh fruit, cheese and/or hardboiled eggs to make up the bulk of your snack. You could also have servings of meat or seafood if that s more to your snacking preference.

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1/14/18 9:56 A

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Are there microwaves available at work? If you're home-cooking dinner every night, pack yourself a lunch made from dinner leftovers. I'm retired now, but when I was working, I'd pack my lunch for the next day when I was cleaning up the kitchen from dinner. There's only DH and me, but I never cook for just 2-- I always cook for 4 or more, so there's leftovers for lunches.

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1/14/18 8:46 A

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Thank you all so much for your reply. I do realize that drinking beer on a daily basis is not the best practice. And I really do seem to cut out my good calories to allow for the bad ones.

I would like to find a good habit to replace it, for both my mental and physical well being. I do tend to go through motivational spurts and then when I fail or have a set back I go right back to my nightly beer. For someone starting out I have yet to find that replacement to fall back to rather than beer, that gives me that aaahhhh at the end of a long day.

Food is a struggle for me most days. I feel like when I pack my lunch for work I eat it way too early and eat more, but if I deprive myself of food, from packing my lunch, I use the snack machine to fill my hunger. I guess I think in my head that I will be better with that bag of chips than a hamburger. I do not like the cafeteria at work, just being in a cafeteria gives me the creeps (maybe highschool flashbacks). I usually eat a good well rounded dinner most nights with home cooked food. But during the day it is a struggle trying to find cheap easy alternatives to eat.

I am open to all suggestions and am taking in all of your help to get motivated and stay motivated. Not just for my weight but my health all together.

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1/14/18 1:04 A

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i gave up beer years ago for ice tea

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1/13/18 8:27 P

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mines is icecream emoticon



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1/13/18 11:35 A

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1. Find non-alcoholic ways to de-stress at the end of each day. It would be one thing if you were using a glass of hard liquor every few months, but if you are relying on beer on a daily basis to this then something needs to change. Option one is to cut out the beer as a daily or option two is more along the lines of making sure you are running at least a 10k everyday. A single alcoholic beverage can be worked in as long as you are not in the shortest, oldest and lowest calorie burning demographic but normal, everyday activity is not enough to balance out multiple alcoholic beverages everyday.

2. Find out how many calories that you burn right now to maintain your weight. Find out how many calories you would burn a day at your goal weight. Your ticker is showing 180 to 150 lbs. If you are 5' tall, you can likely do that at about a pound a week. If you are 6' tall having your bodyfat percentage is going to be the best guide, but you are looking at a quarter pound a week, maybe half a pound a week in loss. Which means it can easily take six weeks for you to see a pound change to the scale. Dramatic cuts are not possible when you do not have a lot to lose.

3. Once you figure out where you are starting from, normal loss for someone with your stats and where you are going to end up you can start playing around. The first 1200 cals you eat should be devoted to covering your nutritional bases. The difference between 1200 and where you maintain is what you have to work with. If you would maintain at 1600 cals, that means you have 400 cals to play with. You could aim for 160 cals in alcoholic beverages, 125 cals in deficit (that's 1/4 lb loss per week) and you'd have 115 cals to play with otherwise. If you maintain at 2000 cals a day that means you have 800 cals to play with. You could do 200 for a deficit, 200 for extra food, 200 for alcohol and have another 200 that you could rotate between the other three categories (one day beer, the next day extra deficit, the next day extra food).

4. Track your food to get an idea of where your calories are going. If you burn 1800 cals a day and you're eating 2000, swapping 160 cals of beer for water is just going to mean that you're gaining more slowly than you were before. Once you know where you are you can start to make the easiest swaps and substitutions possible to get the maximum amount of results. It's a work smarter, not harder.

5. If you have bloating issues, make sure you are tracking your symptoms, foods and times to help address it. It's not always about what you cut out, sometimes it's about what you're adding in. Artificial sweeteners, which are an easy way to cut calories or flavor water, cause gastrointestinal distress in some people. Adding too much fiber without an adequate amount of fat and water can cause issues. Eating something that you have an allergy or sensitivity to can cause issues. Sodium can be part of the problem. Your gallbladder could be part of the problem. If you are female where you are in your cycle can contribute to bloating.

I'd like to point out here that you have three separate issues that need to be addressed: stress management, weight and bloating. At the same time that you are looking at them individually, you also have to look at them all together. Over time you will likely find a balance between these things, but there isn't a ready-made single option that works for everyone. You have to balance your preferences within your limits. Other people can happily cut out all alcohol and that works for them. It's perfectly okay to say it's something that you refuse to cut out, but know that when you do that it's going to dramatically slow the loss you are capable of because you can't cut food calories (that contribute the nutrients that your body needs) for alcohol calories (which are empty, if tasty). It's a trade off that you have to be happy to make. Again, why tracking is so important so that you can cut out other things that you don't like as much as the alcohol that are not contributing anything that you need towards your diet.

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1/13/18 7:30 A

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I have been thinking about this thread. You mentioned that you don't eat much food. What does that mean?

Did you know that not eating enough can be just as detrimental as eating too much? Food is not evil; your body needs calories to fuel breathing, heartbeats, brain function, etc. If you are drinking a lot of beer and not many vegetables like Lulubelle discovered, that could be part of why you aren't losing and feel sluggish when you drink more water and less beer.

Edited by: MLAN613 at: 1/13/2018 (07:32)
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1/12/18 2:22 P

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nothing better than a good beer

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1/12/18 11:24 A

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GERTMCD, you figured it out!
A little of anything every now and then is the path to a lifelong healthy lifestyle.
Small amounts can be worked into your calories.
Small amounts keep you from bingeing.

Keep doing what you are doing! And congratulations.

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1/12/18 10:40 A

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Why not try one of the challenges like the fit food challenge?

I can't say what exactly will work for you, but I can tell you what has worked for me in the past and what is working right now. I track everything I eat (even when I don't want to). I try to make sure I get enough protein (for me >100g a day). I drink a ton of water. I also have a protein shake every day- right now it's an easier way for me to supplement my intake since we are primarily eating vegetarian food every night.

Looking at your nutrition tracker I would recommend trying to make some small substitutions. If you like crunchy things like chips (don't we all!), try adding carrots and a healthy dip instead, or make a crunchy vinegar or greek yogurt-based slaw. I also really like to munch on jicama sticks with lemon juice on top. Consider swapping in some more whole grain foods (like whole wheat bread instead of white bread) and adding things like oatmeal to your diet. If you want specific guidance about nutrition, speaking with your doctor or a nutritionist would of course be most beneficial.

I echo others in suggesting you cut down your beer intake, but slowly. Try to take more time to savor the flavor and really enjoy it. Start with cutting it to two, then consider cutting it to one a day or a few times a week. Maybe set aside one day of the week where you'll have one or two. You'll figure out what works best for you. Though beer isn't my specific vice, I don't keep things like thin mints in the house because I don't control myself well around them. Other things like coconut ice cream bars I do keep in the house because I can choose when to incorporate them into my plan without going off the deep end.

I wish you the very best! We are all in this together.

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1/12/18 9:03 A

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My vice is wine and hard cider. Normally I would open a bottle of wine on Friday night and finish it by Sunday afternoon (a bottle is 5 glasses). I made the decision to cut way back while I'm working on my weight. I did not give it up totally, but now just have two ciders or glasses of wine when we are out to dinner every other week.

I had to take the tack that everything in moderation is a little less than what I am used to. I'm feeling great and making progress so it was the right decision for me. Good luck with what you decide.

Edited by: GERTMCD at: 1/12/2018 (09:05)
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1/12/18 6:24 A

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I live in Minnesota and we have a lot of them. My town has 2 microbreweries and a favorite local restaurant has 20 to 25 different ones on tap daily.

I love these microbrews too but rarely drink. Why? I want to enjoy and appreciate the taste when I do. I prefer IPAs. The average calories for a 12 ounce bottle of a typical IPA is 170. If I drank 3 of those daily it would be 510 calories.

Right now, my calorie range is 1720 to 2010 and if I used up calories with 3 beers, it would drop my range to 1220 to 1510. That doesn't leave a lot of room to get in the healthy nutrients (macro and micro) my body needs on a daily basis. Plus, I enjoy exercising and so much booze would leave me feeling too sluggish to exercise.

I have, however, learned how to enjoy one or MAYBE two on occasion. I am meeting a friend for an early dinner on Sunday. I will enjoy one beer and probably order a burger with no bun so I can have fries, which I also love and rarely get. If I run a longer race (10k, 10 mile, or half marathon), I will allow myself to enjoy a delicious brew. I allow it on holidays and special events as long as you aren't calling every day a special event.

I also think it's a bit concerning you need to have 3 to relax? Are you sure you maybe don't have a problem? Alcohol shouldn't be a relaxation tool, in my humble opinion and as someone whose marriage died due to her ex-husband's dependency.

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1/12/18 3:08 A

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I took a look at your tracker and you don't seem to have a lot of fresh food on it. Where are your veggies? Where is the fruit? I would be bloated and sluggish if I didn't eat at least 20 grams of fiber a day. You also have a fair amount of restaurant food; if you look at the restaurant website you can find the nutritional breakdown for each menu item--many of them contain a whole day's sodium in one item. A day or two with less processed food will probably help you drop at least a couple pounds of water weight.

Most days you're drinking three bottles of beer. Dropping that down to two and adding a piece of fruit or some salad to your day would be a good starting point. I'm not sure what your calorie range is, but you have days where you consume 1000 calories, and days where you are over 2,300; what is your target? It might help to start thinking about what you need to eat to get the nutrients your body needs and then work from there to cut down on the beer.



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If you have formed the habit of checking on every new diet that comes along, you will find that, mercifully, they all blur together, leaving you with only one definite piece of information: french-fried potatoes are out. ~~Jean Kerr

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1/11/18 7:04 P

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I enjoy beer. It is my relaxation after a long day of work and stress and maintaining my family and home. It is my escape. I am kind of a beer snob, says my fiance, I like the microbrewery beers and drink for the actual taste of the beer, not so much the tipsy factor. How do I break the habit? I eat my very minimum in calories from food, and though I am not extremely active, I do not really sit still very long. I do not feel that I am lazy. I can't seem to budge my weight, no matter how much water I drink or if I skip beer. In fact I seem to bloat terribly when I do all water for days and no beer. How do I start to move forward? I am not moving at all.

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