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11/12/17 3:38 P

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Anyone with good muscle definition has quite low body fat. Depending on your age and gender you may find it a very difficult goal to achieve. As far as muscle development generally speaking lower weight and high reps build muscle endurance. Higher weight and fewer reps is used for stronger muscles. Very high weight to failure within 4 to 6 reps is better for developing muscle size. You might find the book "Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle" by Tom Venuto useful.

Edited by: NJMSTAR at: 11/12/2017 (15:40)
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11/12/17 2:52 P

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On a side note my total weight lost since i started is around 130lbs

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11/12/17 2:51 P

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All my workouts are strictly bodyweight...pretty much every exercise i do incolces multiple muscles i rarely do isolation exercises i dont see much point in them other then evening out definition that already exists according to my scale im around 20% bodyfat and skip rope 3 hours daily i love working out, its one of my favorite things to do in my free time i can feel the abs if i push through the fat left on my stomach lol i had hoped someone also had some kind of benchmark that i could aim at in the process that could help me check my progress towards them

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11/12/17 1:38 P

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When you have 100 lbs to lose, losing weight brings you in line with the shape you want. When you are already at a healthy weight losing weight does not equal a certain shape. For people with higher bodyfat percentages losing weight can help. For people with already low bodyfat percentages gaining weight ( in the form of increased workouts) is what gets them the smaller shape they are aiming for. There is not a magical number that when you fall under you get abs. You have to build up the muscles, which is kind of the opposite of weightloss. Once you have the muscles built up and working then the remaining fat starts to come off.

You mostly have to decide if you want a shape, in which case put the scale away, or if you want a certain number, in which case ditch the abs idea.

-google first. ask questions later.

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11/12/17 12:36 P

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I had this same problem - and I'm having it again now that I'm trying to lose my pregnancy weight and get back to my "goal" weight (my profile pic shows me at goal) and perhaps push a little further this time to work on the couple of areas I still wasn't happy about (lower belly and legs) - I don't actually care about what the scale says, but now that I know I can maintain my goal weight (and I've been through several IVF cycles and had my two kids!), why not do some fine-tuning as well once I get back there?

But now that I've lost most of the weight again, people are being the opposite of helpful - saying I've lost "enough" (whatever that means), and that I don't need to get "so skinny" again. (I'm an 8 now - I was a 4 at goal - sometimes a 2, but they were usually snug. The profile pic dress is a 2, though.) Never mind what *I* want, not just for my own sake but because I'm 45 with a two and a half year old and a six month old baby, and I need to be at my fighting weight so that they have the fit and active mommy they deserve! OK, the "extra" fine tuning is cosmetic and pretty much just for me - but I'm worth it! ;)

Anyway, to get back to your issue, I think people just have a difficult time adjusting their minds around a dramatic weight loss - and your 60 pounds definitely qualifies! They are used to you being at a certain size, and that has now changed, and their image of you has not caught up yet. I'm sure they think you look great - and they are probably right! Doesn't mean you have to settle for "good enough" if you aren't happy. They will, in time, get used to the thinner you - and perhaps will eventually be ready to be more supportive. But in the meantime, don't let them discourage you from your goals. While your weight now is reasonable for your height -- it does not sound to me like you're at all heading into eating disorder/obsessive exercise territory -- if you're not happy with where you are yet, just keep pushing through. They will catch up to you eventually! :)

The previous poster has some good advice on the "how" so I won't try to add to it! Do keep in mind that not everyone is physically capable of having true "six-pack" abs (even when they are perfectly flat), and you probably already know that spot reduction is not possible, and that your body might frustrate you by taking the weight from somewhere you'd rather keep it, rather than from your ab area. But that's no reason to give up now, certainly not before you find out what your body can/will do.

Not sure what size you'd need to be for "flat" abs - I think ultimately it depends on your frame/bone structure. I'm significantly shorter than you (5'7"), but for comparison, at a size 4, I still had some belly fat - even though I typically had to have a tailor take in the waist on size 4s to make them really fit well. My waist was relatively small, but I still had a bit of a "pooch" below the waist that didn't want to go away. In my case, I might need surgery to get rid of it -- I had lots of loose skin on my belly, even before two "advanced age" pregnancies made it worse - but I suspect if I did that, I'd be a "true" 2, or a even zero (though my hip bones might not allow me to go there).

Good luck!

Edited by: CSROBERTSON621 at: 11/12/2017 (12:37)
Starting Weight: 268 lbs. (November 2010)
Quasi-Maintenance: 165 lbs. (June 2011)
Goal Weight: 150 lbs. (reached December 8, 2011)

Size 22W to Size 4

Currently maintaining within 5 lbs. (+ or -) of goal. I weigh daily, but also use a tape measure and the fit of my clothes to guage how well I'm doing.
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11/12/17 12:06 P

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When it comes to reducing excess belly fat in skinny guys, there’s really no magic to it. It only requires smart training, a LEAN, clean diet, and minimal equipment…not ab workouts 7 days per week, ridiculous ab machines, or crunch, after crunch, after crunches. You MUST have a base of muscle before you start Abs Workout Routine. To gain muscle, you must get stronger by doing heavy ass weight compound exercises. This is the simplest, most powerful way to build muscle. You don’t need to train a muscle directly for it to grow. When you do a heavy compound exercise like a Bench Press, your arms are holding the bar. It’s not just your chest working, your triceps have to push the weight as well… and a much heavier weight than on isolation exercises like triceps kickbacks.

So If you want to build muscle, stop doing isolation exercises and start doing heavy compound exercises. This means:

If you want bigger biceps, stop doing curls. Do Barbell Rows
If you want bigger triceps, stop doing kickbacks. Do Weighted Dips
If you want bigger chest, stop doing dumbbell flies. Bench Press
If you want bigger shoulders, stop doing front raises. Overhead Press
if you want bigger back, stop doing lat pulldowns. Deadlift
If you want bigger legs, stop doing leg extensions. Squat
When it comes to ab training, people often spend all of their time doing crunches and sit-ups. These exercises can be effective, but they focus on your upper abs. Whenever you train, you must include exercises that target your lower abs and obliques to prevent muscle imbalances.

4 Weeks Six Pack Abs Workout Routine For Skinny

Since you are skinny, doing following Abs Workout Routine twice a week is more than enough. Surely you will get thick, dense abs – the ones that ‘pop’ out.

1-minute plank followed by 30-second side plank for each side
3 Sets of 15-20 Reps of Crunch/ Sit up/ Elevated Leg Crunches
3 Sets of 15-20 Reps of Reverse Crunch/ Hanging Leg Raise/ Captain's Chair Leg Raise
3 Sets of 15-20 Reps of Bicycle Crunch/ Russian Twist
Finish with Mountain Climber

And when people tell you you're too skinny, please have in mind Bruce Lee: he was skinny and no body would ever believed how lean and strong his body was. If you have a model in mind, you'll see it'll be easier for you to not mind negative comments.



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ALUCARD33592 Posts: 4
11/12/17 11:06 A

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The trouble im having isnt to do with not reaching goals i am 5'11 and 170 lbs right now over the course of last year i lost 60 lbs right now my goal is a nice set of abs lol the problem i have is everyone telling me im getting too skinny ( though i know very well i cant have visible abs with a gut ) ive already told them about my goals none of them listen any ideas on how to deal with constantly being told i dont need to lose weight ? I know its a weird problem to have but everyone being on me about it is killing the motivation to reach my end goal..aside from that....anyone have any idea of what size i would have to shrink down too in order to get them visible ?

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