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Wednesday, April 03, 2013

I went to a new bible study group this morning.

They are studying John and were to the crucifixion.

Two things have me confused. I have always believed Jesus was fully God and fully man. They kept says Jesus was 1/2 God and 1/2 man.

Is there a difference? Are they saying something different than I am? Or is this the same but using different words?

Also, as Jesus took on the sins of the world he cried out "My God, my God why have you abandon me." The leader of this group said at that moment God abandoned Jesus. How could that be? Jesus is the son of God and the trinity even though are separate and always one. I know that God is pure and without sin and can not look at sin, and God probably turned away, but Jesus is God and therefore without sin too.

I am confused?

Am I in over my head?
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    on the fully God, fully man, you were right on. 100% on both sides of the coin. It is something that we can't understand, just accept by faith.

    on the forsaken me point, God the Father did turn away from Christ. That was part of the price that Christ bore for us. He took on all of our sin and all of our judgement. Nothing can be harsher than to have our Father turn away from us.
    1863 days ago
    I agree with HappyJungle. Jesus was not half anything...He was the whole package so to speak. He was completely God (in essence & character)... God, the Son (this was his Deity)...all the while being completely Man (this was his humanity). Only God could accomplish such a thing. He was altogether without sin. Apart from Jesus Christ, no other man has ever lived a sinless life. That is why His (Christ's) sacrifice on the the cross was accepted by God, the Father (our Holy Judge) ... the Bible calls this "propitiation" = God's wrath satisfied by the shed blood of Christ at the cross when He willing gave Himself as a sacrifice for our (my) sin. Scripture says this plan was conceived by the Father and the Son before the foundation of the world...confirming the eternality of the Godhead.

    When Christ called out (while on the cross) we need to remember that the sin of the world had been laid on Him. He was actually in the process of paying the debt (price) for our (my) sin. God said there was a penalty for sin = death, spiritual death. If Christ had not paid that debt, we would all still be found owing. Because God is the Holy and Just Judge, He must require payment for the debt of sin. Therefore, when Christ in His agony called out, His humanity was at the forefront. Once the price had been paid in full by Christ...It was finished! The sacrifice for sin was accepted once and for all time. Now we can accept the sacrifice Jesus made or reject it (Him). Rejection = spiritual death...acceptance = spiritual life.

    Hope this helps. The link to John MacArthur would be most helpful and thrilling to listen to. He's a gifted teaching pastor and author. PTL for Christ's selfless act of love, mercy and grace upon the cross for you Nd for me! Blessings, Bev
    1902 days ago
    God sent his Son to be man so he could take away our sins. Jesus knew who he was but yet he was a man calling out to his father for help., but he also knew he could not answer and why, because he had a job to do. So now when children are born they are born without sin. When Jesus died and went to heaven before Easter he became God again and was resurrected. He gave the gift of the Holy Spirit to the apostles( Like confirmation) then . So they could carry on the church. The Father Son and Holy Spirit are three and became one. The Trinity. Hope this didn't confuse you more. Read more of the bible listen to to others less, it is open to intepertation.
    1903 days ago
    Hi. You are right, it is not the same, or correct, to say Jesus was 1/2 man and 1/2 God. Here is a link to what John Macarthur says about what Jesus said on the cross. The link gives you the option to listen to the audio or read the commentary. I hope that it encourages you. :)
    1903 days ago
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