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RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
12/18/13 8:05 A

So without any idea how food affects the OP, the advice is to switch to turkey bacon, and just eat the meal, because that is what YOU would likely eat?

EDNOS, is an unspecified eating disorder. I starved myself for an entire summer when I was 18, and lost 120 lbs, and regained it all because I binged. I was at both ends of the scale so could not be specified with one eating disorder. People that starve, and overeat, are more complex than solving one issue. Their behavior is inexplicable.

Giving advice based on how it affects you to someone like this, might have dire consequences, and might even result in them dying from complications if they follow it. That shouldn't be something you suggest as if " TURKEY BACON EGGS TOAST " is the answer to everything. What if having the toast with some jelly, sets off a binge, and the OP gains 80 lbs in the next 3 months, along with diabetes, or a heart attack. " My bad " won't be good enough then.

Saying that turkey bacon might be healthier choice than sausage is one thing, but the idea that saying it is healthy for someone with a serious issue that you know nothing about, is irresponsible. It might be okay for a healthy person, but the OP has explained that they have other issues to contend with.

I hope that this was just an oversight on your part, and intended to be helpful.

To the OP - Seek professional help.

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12/17/13 8:52 A


JUSTME9898 Posts: 2,946
12/16/13 2:28 P

I would just agree with everyone here. If there is any way you can talk to a doctor, or a nutritionist that would be the best thing because everyone is different is their individual lifestyle.
The meal sounds pretty normal to me. But I would also say one piece of whole grain or whole wheat toast, add a fruit or a veg and exchange the sausage for either a turkey or veg sausage patty or Canadian bacon if your goal is to loose weight.
there may be a clinic that you could visit.

MLEHTO Posts: 734
12/16/13 2:10 P

As others have said, what's normal for me may not be normal for you. With the exception of the sausage, it sounds like a fairly healthy meal particularly since you have an active occupation. As for comparing it to what the rest of your family eats, I understand that dilemma as my husband can put away way more food than I can and it can be difficult when they are still eating and you aren't.

As for the ED, Overeater's Anonymous or Food Addict's Anonymous are good free resources for support in that area.

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12/16/13 12:34 P

The important thing to know here is that there is no "one size fits all diet"
How do you FEEL after you eat? Do you feel energized? do you feel fueled? Or do you feel tired and sluggish? How is your brain function? Do you think clearly and sharply? or do you struggle to get a clear idea across? These are all indicators of whether or not the meal you just ate was good for you or harmful.
Food should make you feel clean, light and energized. It is the fuel for our bodies.
You can work through your eating disorder by working on changing your relationship with food.
Work towards eating food to feed your body, not your heart.
Also, work on improving the areas in your life that are making you unhappy. We often supplement a lack of happiness with food. Work on improving the other areas of your life and you will see an improvement in how you react to food.

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12/16/13 12:11 P


RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
12/16/13 10:50 A

I think that you should listen to Becky. While you may not be seeing someone for your ED, you should still remember some of the advice they gave you, and save up to see someone in the future as needed.

I keep seeing advice being suggested, but any advice given on here, should be at least discussed with your primary care physician, if you do not have a dietitian/therapist.

Personally, I eat a low carb diet to deal with MY issues.. diabetes, and binges. I am in a constant struggle between wanting to eat lower carb levels, and my doctor wanting me to eat more. For ME, this breakfast seems normal, or small in volume. I eat eggs, and real sausage wouldn't be a problem. I would probably skip the toast, and milk, but as long as they are not a problem for YOU, enjoy them. This does not mean that this is a good, OR bad breakfast. It is what I would do, and not anything YOU should follow. That is the problem with advice. It usually comes from the perspective of the person giving it.

I think SP can help you with your total calories, and if this breakfast isn't so high in calories that it is a bulk of your daily calories, then it will be fine in that regard. I eat about 1/3 rd of my calories for breakfast.

The individual plan that you need though, is going to have to be worked out with your doctor, dietitian etc. There will be people along who offer advice from their perspective. People following 20 different meal plans, which might be of zero help to you.

When you have mental/physical eating disorders, or diseases that affect diet, asking the average SP member to help you is just too much. The advice they give may be useful, and is intended to help you, but could actually be harmful.

KMHILLI Posts: 165
12/15/13 10:09 A

My only suggestion would be to replace the sausage with either turkey sausage or Morningstar sausage patties. (They are actually really good...and I'm someone who usually abhors "fake" meat!)

SUNSHINE6442 Posts: 2,320
12/15/13 9:36 A

Sounds fairly normal to me.....

To keep your brain powered up, the first meal of the day should be rich in protein and with good carbs......

Here are some other ideas

1-2 slices of whole-grain toast or whole-wheat English muffin or toasted whole-grain waffle topped with peanut butter and a glass of low fat milk.

Breakfast burrito..... pita pocket stuffed with scrambled egg mixed with salsa

1-2 slices of Rye Bread toasted with melted low-fat cheese and tomato

Whole grain cereals, hot or cold, with low fat milk or yogurt and 1-2 tablespoons of slivered nuts on top and a few blueberries. If the cereal box label says there are 3 grams of fiber or more a serving, that means there is significant fiber and should help keep you full.
A bowl of whole grain cereal (cold or oatmeal), preferably with nuts, milk, fresh fruit.
yogurt and an apple

Old fashioned oatmeal with walnuts/blueberries
Multi Grain Cheerios with skim and berries
1 Packet of buttered grits with 1 soft boiled egg mixed in
1 Apple sliced with a smidgen of peanut butter on each slice

And of course consult your medical professional for guidance.

Edited by: SUNSHINE6442 at: 12/15/2013 (09:37)
NIRERIN Posts: 14,325
12/15/13 7:09 A

one meal doesn't make or break a diet. and yes, i use the primary definition of the word, which is what one eats. and you also can't judge a diet based on one meal. you've got protein, grain and dairy servings, but not vegetables or fruit. now if all the rest of your meals and snacks have a fruit or a veggie or both, you're likely getting enough servings in. so it's not just that one meal, it's how all your meals work together.
i would say the change to make would be to add a serving or two of vegetables to your eggs in the morning as an easy way to get them in and out of the way. if you need to cut calories or fat have half a sausage patty instead of a full one.

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12/14/13 7:26 P


LOUNMOUN Posts: 1,334
12/14/13 7:22 P

Use the nutrition tracker to see if it fits your healthy eating plan.

I would find that amount of food at a meal normal and adequate.
It is entirely lacking in fruits or vegetables though so you might look at making some changes.

12/14/13 7:16 P

This site, our members and our experts are unable to answer your question.
As you stated in your post, you are recovering from an ED. Therefore your specific nutrition and calorie needs may be greatly different. Please follow the recommendations from your therapist our health care provider.

Your SP Registered Dietitian Nutritionist

MICHELLEXXXX SparkPoints: (12,338)
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12/14/13 4:50 P

I would ask your Church if they offer any sort of counseling and/or support groups. OA and TOPS are two other free programs that you may benefit from.

I would encourage you to track your nutrition on spark and stay within their guidelines for now.

Edited by: MICHELLEXXXX at: 12/14/2013 (16:59)
SLIMMERKIWI SparkPoints: (256,762)
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12/14/13 4:22 P

Hi - as you are someone trying to recover from an eating disorder, I strongly suggest that you talk with your Dr and ask for a referral to a Registered Dietitian to ensure that you do this safely as it pertains to YOU and YOUR needs. Also, if you haven't got a Therapist to help you with the issues surrounding the ED, I also strongly suggest that you ask your Dr for a referral to a Therapist who deals with these issues, because unless THAT is dealt with, you will find yourself more prone to slip back to old habits.

As far as Sausage meat is concerned, check the nutrition labels - some are better than others ..... OR make your own leaving out the additives, sodium and fat, etc. It is very easy to do.

Good luck,

WHOLENEWME79 Posts: 951
12/14/13 1:59 P

As far as volume, it sounds fine. Did you track it as far as calories?

I may suggest skipping one of the pieces of toast and swap it for some fruit or sliced tomato. Maybe try something like this:

1 egg, 1 sausage patty, 1 piece of toast, 1 milk, 1 orange, 2 thick slices of tomato. Make a breakfast sandwich or something.

Only a suggestion!


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12/14/13 1:59 P

I'm sort of scared to give dietary advice to someone with an unspecified eating disorder. What kind of disorder is it? Do you have someone to talk to about it in order to get nutritional advice that's tailored to your needs?

On a more practical note, in terms of evaluating just how "big" or not big that meal might be, can you say your sex and overall activity level? I'll assume you're trying to keep your weight the same at the moment.

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12/14/13 1:57 P

I have been told and read that eating too little for breakfast is a mistake. Eggs and milk are good for you.
Sausage has a lot of calories and fat,though. A couple of slices of bacon would be better,I think. Canadian bacon is even better,calorie-wise. If you are like me,it is hard not to have some type of meat with breakfast.
I would say lose the sausage or replace it and you are good to go. I am far from an expert,though

SDAWNW Posts: 28
12/14/13 1:33 P

Hello. I'm trying to recover from an eating disorder and my family's eating habits are... large. So please excuse my lack of knowledge here... haha. I'm wondering if this is a normal breakfast. This is what satisfies and fills me up, but it also makes me feel super guilty all say
I usually have (cuz this is all that's in the house) 2 eggs, with a sausage patty, 2 pieces of toast and milk. Sorry if this is a lot its actually small than what my family eats... but thoughts?

I am 20 years old and work a pretty active job as a housekeeper. I didn't specify my eating disorder because its EDNOS. I do everything from binging to fasting. And no, I'm not seeing anyone anymore because I can't afford it. I'm almost overweight so I'm actually trying to lose weight

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