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KKELMAR25 Posts: 9
6/21/13 2:00 P

dont worry about upsetting me over the nutritionist, she was someone my dr recommended and i only saw her once. i question her knowledge myself.

as far as how i figure calories burned zorbs13, i set my self on sedentary, because really other than my workout im not able to do a whole lot out of the water. i have one ruined knee that im not supposed to walk on much and the other is following fast from not listening to the drs and walking anyways and using it to bear most of the weight. i only add in my actual time at the gym which is all treading water or water aerobics. you would be surprised at the amount of calories treading water will burn, usually atleast double of the same time on a treadmill or eliptical.. the resistance of the water adds to the work out and i dont hurt because of the lack of stress on my knees so i go to town once i hit the water. accourding to the spark fitness im burning around 1450 every hour i spend in the water, as i dont stop for atleast 2 hrs.

i dont bother to put in any housework , shopping or walking unless i specifically go on a the 7000 - 9000 i burn is just the gym thats not including the bmr - calorie intake differential which was averaging around another 3000 - 3500 daily. so my weekly calorie burned average was around 26000 calories.

Edited by: KKELMAR25 at: 6/21/2013 (14:05)
ADARKARA Posts: 2,273
6/20/13 4:14 P

I'm going to sound like a jerk probably, but your "nutritionist" is an idiot. I don't know your age or your height, but I'm 32 and 5'10" tall. By calculation, in order to lose weight, I should eat 3000 calories at your weight! You're barely eating half that. While the calculations vary by person, I don't think they vary by 1400 calories. I'm pretty sure you're starving yourself. Try bumping it up 500 calories or so until you start losing.

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6/20/13 1:55 P

how are you measuring calories burned? are you tracking a lot of lifestyle activities such as housework, etc?

KKELMAR25 Posts: 9
6/20/13 1:49 P

thanks so much. i updated my fitness/ calories last night . now spark has me at 1900 - 2200 calories so im going to give that a try and see if that helps as im frustrated that i have not seen a single pound lost in 3 weeks. the last summer when i did this i dropped an average of 8 lbs a week the first 2 months and i wasnt even excersizing ! so its been a rough few weigh ins as far as motivations goes. so ill try this and see if it helps.

SP_COACH_DENISE Posts: 42,369
6/20/13 9:17 A

I would question your nutritionists qualifications by giving that type of advice. If you are working out and burning as much as you said (7000-9000), then 1300 calories isn't enough fuel or nutrients for that level of activity and it would cause your body to go into perceived starvation mode. If you haven't already, I would recommend you update your calories burned goal to be what you burn in an average week so that your nutrition goals are accurate for your activity level. This page has info on how to update that:

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6/19/13 11:49 P

You know, just by making healthy choices with your food and getting in the exercise, REGARDLESS of whether the scales are moving (at this stage) or not, doesn't mean that you aren't doing good for your body. There are many other ways of checking and that are more reliable than the scales! Think:
Increased energy levels
Improved BP
Improved bloods (sugars and cholesterol)
Improved quality of sleep
Improved hair and skin condition
How your clothes fit (they WILL be getting looser very soon)

It is probable that you are losing fat but gaining muscle - another reason why best not to focus too much on scales!!


KKELMAR25 Posts: 9
6/19/13 11:30 P

im so worried about upping the calories, even though spark is saying its what i need. at my weight all you hear is if you quit putting food in your mouth you wouldnt be fat. but i think i may try. spark wouldnt be telling me i need it if i dont right? i just know im burning 7000 - 9000 calories a week according to spark. im working my butt off so its frustrating to not see anything change . im 22000 calories in the hole each week. in my mind the weight should be falling off. but not if ive managed to put myself in starvation mode.

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6/19/13 11:14 P

I'm not qualified to comment about what you should or shouldn't eat - I also wonder at your 'nutritionist's' qualifications! With your current weight, I would be inclined to think that 1300 calories is far too little!

3 Weeks isn't enough time to determine whether you are on a plateau - it is unlikely at this stage. I would be inclined to UP your calories. The fact is, an average weight woman who is sedentary NEEDS around 1200 calories - factor in exercise you need MORE calories. You are a lot heavier (need more calories) and you are exercising (need more calories.) I would be inclined to go with SP's suggested range, and ask if your Nutritionist is a Registered Dietitian. If not, seek out someone who is!


LINDSAYB2013 Posts: 1,143
6/19/13 11:13 P

Hi! I am not a nutritionist or anything but I've been in your shoes before!! I bumped my calories way down when I first started my journey this year and my body went into starvation mode. I would suggest looking at what your old "normal" range of calories was and take off 500 or so from that. Im really not sure what my old normal was but I would guess it was around 4000 calories a day. When I bumped it down to 1200 my body just didnt know what to do. It was recommended to me to try aiming for around 2500-2800 calories so I tried that for awhile (I had also added cardio in a few times a week like you but only for about a half hour 4 days a week) and the pounds started coming off!! Every few weeks I would reevaluate. I kicked it down to 2200-2500 cals a day for quit awhile and doing 30 min of cardio 5-6 days a week. When that started to make me plateau I went to 2000-2200 cals a day with 45 min of cardio 6 days a week. Now I am using the spark solution meal plans which with my substitutions puts me between 1500-1900 cals a day and I have added in strength training so I do about an hour of workout 6 days a week and at least 20 minutes of activity on the "off" day. It sounds like you are really committed which is fantastic, you just need to try a few things and see what works for you. Good luck!!!

Edited by: LINDSAYB2013 at: 6/19/2013 (23:14)
KKELMAR25 Posts: 9
6/19/13 10:46 P

i have been eating between 1300 - 1600 calories a day per my plan. i went to a nutritionist who told me i shouldnt eat more than 1300 calories a day to lose weight ( im 480 lbs) so i feel guilty even eating the 1600 calories. ive started working out and spend 2 hrs a day 3 days a week treading water moderatly high to vigorous. according to sparks numbers of calories burned and weekly work out totals i should be eating 500 - 1000 more calories a day to compensate for the calories burned. to lose 5 lbs a week.

i havent lost anything in 3 weeks. now i know going from doing nothing to this work out will build some muscle, but not enough this fast to cover the amount of weight i should be losing. i also know the last time i did spark if i under ate my calories i didnt lose anything at all because my metabolism is so bad i kicked in the starvation reflex ( i was only eating about 900 - 1000 a day then instead of 1200 - 1500).

so my question is do i really need to up my calories to 2100 - 2600 calories to lose this weight or am i on a normal plateau and then i can keep my calories at 1300 - 1600 and not feel like a pig who is pretending to diet?

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