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N16351D Posts: 2,349
1/12/13 12:22 P

I watched a program on television where a petite, slight, woman lost 6 pounds in one week. She wanted to fit into a size 2-4 wedding dress! She fainted, ended up in the hospital, dehydrated and low in electrolytes and missed her wedding! It had to be rescheduled.

She learned an important lesson the hard way. Stick with 1-2 pounds per week and sound advice you receive here on SP pages!

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1/12/13 12:06 P

Thank you Gayle and Coral I think I am getting off / deleting this post too many people are being unnecessarily rude and negative..

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1/8/13 2:40 P

Not gonna happen, might as well eat healthy and make this goal a long-term goal. You have already gotten great advice from other people but you really need to be realistic about this.

1/8/13 12:01 P


First... the scale thing.. yes we are all obsessed with it in one way or another. But even more important is body image. Is it really that you want to hit that number? or that you want to look GOOD!?!?! Personally, I have been underweight in my life... and looked haggard... and I have been overweight (by nationally accepted standards) and looked FINE!!!

A few questions for you.. what do you drink? and how much? If it's not water, then stop. I can always drop a couple quick pounds by leaving off the wine and coffee for a week and drinking a lot of water. Every time I go to the bathroom, I drink a large cup.... that also adds to my fitness level because I end up getting up and running to the bathroom a lot.

How active are you? You gotta move to lose. And not just lose... you need muscle tone for your clothes to look better regardless of your frame. You don't want your skin just sagging on your bones do you?

And finally, you gotta eat. You must fuel your body. If you don't eat, your body will go into starvation mode and you won't lose a pound. You may actually gain a few. For instance, I have a friend that had weightloss surgery and she stopped losing weight... she didn't understand it.... she wasn't eating that much... she figured she should have been losing loads of pounds.... well... she wasn't getting enough calories and her body wasn't releasing anything she was putting into it.

The stuff you eat also matters... no refined flours or sugars is what works best for me. I am a crack(er) addict. I just love all sorts of crackers... But they are bad bad bad for me.

As an ending note... is it just that you are trying to fit into that 'Special Dress' on a 'Special Day'? Try a body wrap, it is temporary and there are Groupons almost always available for them.

If you are 'big boned' like I read somewhere earlier, you will never be a twiggy... but you can be hot and voluptuous.

URBANK9 Posts: 895
1/8/13 2:03 A

If you are in college, I would check if your school has a fitness program or gym. Sometimes thy offer things like fitness testing or training for students for free.. For example my school offers fitness assessments and a few sessions with a personal trainer for free, then if you want to continue with a trainer they have a low fee for students.

LTULLIS Posts: 27
1/6/13 10:46 P

Having realistic expectations

BUBBLEJ1 Posts: 2,981
1/6/13 10:13 P

What Heather said. She said it better (and more politely) than I could have.

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1/6/13 10:04 P

Why that particular date? Why so aggressive?

I will be brutally frank. You are likely not going to be able to make that deadline. With only 24 lbs to lose, 3 months is simply *not enough time*. To do that, you're going to have to lose more than 2 lbs per week, and you simply aren't fat enough to pull that off! If you weighed over 200 lbs? Yeah, you could drop 24 lbs in 11 weeks. But at a normal BMI? It's not going to happy. Not safely, not easily.

There are tons of quit-thin-quick schemes out there, but they don't work, and they don't make lasting changes in your body.

You have 24 lbs to go. That means you can safely aim to lose about .5-.72 lbs per week. Anything more than that is going to be very tough. As you get to 10 lbs, you can aim for .25-.30 pounds per week. The less you have to lose, the slower it will go.

There are no shortcuts. There's no quick fixes. You can try starvation schemes, but you'll find your body tries to protect you, and will sabotage your efforts, because they're dangerous!

It's time to re-evaluate your goals, because they are simply not attainable. You are not setting yourself up for healthy living for a lifetime, you're trying to force yourself into a body weight that may or may not even be healthy or reasonable for you.

I strongly suggest consulting with a doctor on your weight loss efforts. You've been given a great deal of advice here, based on solid, peer-reviewed medical evidence, but you've ignored it.

Sometimes, we can't give you the answer you want. Talk to your doctor, and I'll bet dollars to donuts he or she will agree with us on this.

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1/6/13 5:56 P

I am trying to get to my goal of 150 pounds anyway and deadline is 3/20 of this year.

DRAGONCHILDE SparkPoints: (61,458)
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1/5/13 9:28 P

Are you dead yet?

No? Then you are NOT running out of time! There is no deadline for being healthy. Aggressive self-imposed deadlines do not help you reach your goals, they only increase your chance of failure and frustration.

What are you really trying to accomplish, and why? Are you trying to reach an arbitrary number for a specific event?

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1/4/13 1:03 P

Hi Scarlet. Please don't take this the wrong way, but it sounds like you are expecting too much, which ultimately leads to failure. I can't promise that you'll lose 5 pounds a week, but I can promise that you will eventually lose the weight you want to lose if you are patient. If you want to be in the 140-150 range, just keep doing what you are doing, make it your permanent lifelong habit, not a short-spurt lunge, and you'll be in that weight range. The key is to do it without the stress of worrying that you'll gain it back. If you lose 5 a week, you'll be hurting your body and be exhausted, then you'll either lose hair, have deficiencies in nutrients, or crash and give up because you might feel too sick to go on. My cousin did the same thing, living off only 500 calories a day. She readjusted her views to just eating her calorie needs and being active 3-5 days a week, rather than focusing on a number of pounds to lose goal. Now she is thin and happy and has been the same weight for 5 years.

I am also a newlywed and a college student with little finances. I have a lot of weight to lose, but I've gone up and down too often too count, and have learned from trying to expect too much from myself. I'm not saying that what you want to lose is too much to expect, just don't expect to lose 5 a week if you don't want to fail in the end.

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1/4/13 12:56 P

I don't believe there is any healthy, sustainable way to lose 5 lbs. a week.

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1/4/13 11:40 A

I'm running out of time to complete my goal and as for the nutritionist I'm a 21 year old newly wed and college student so I'm pretty broke honestly. I appreciate suggestions you guys have given me though. My doctors always say its fine cause I'm tall but I don't like this weight and would prefer to be in the 140 to 150 range. Sorry if I haven't answered any questions but there are so many reply's I can't remember than all so I am not ignoring anyone just can't filter everything this early in the morning.

DMJAKES Posts: 1,635
1/4/13 8:33 A

Scarlet - once you gave us your height and weight, that changes the picture dramatically. As others have mentioned, you're within normal healthy range, so any changes are going to be slow to come and will require much patience and perseverance on your part.

I'd suggest focusing hard on the quality of your nutrition and getting within as many of your ranges every day as you can. Make sure your goals in spark are reasonable (set your goal date out far enough that it's only computing a half pound a week, or even less, and I'd set your goal weight at 160 and see if meeting that goal gives the results you want).

If you're not already doing so, do 2 or even 3 full body strength training workouts per week. If you're unsure of how to start, check out the videos here on Spark for ideas, or go to the library and check out The New Rules of Lifting for Life by Lou Schuler. There are others too, but that's my absolute favorite. It's got numerous options for routines so that you can build a workout based on your fitness level, and it focuses not only on strength but on balance and agility. There are pictures and descriptions of all the moves, and the rationale behind it all is very well-explained.

Throw in a few cardio workouts per week and at least one rest day, and you will see results----if you trust the process and give it time.

AMBERC15 Posts: 96
1/3/13 9:13 P

If your finances allow it, I suggest seeing a nutritionist. There are a number of reasons that you're not losing weight. The nutritionist can help you figure it out. I read recently that our bodies can have certain sensitivities to a specific food (even good ones) and if we continue to eat that food, we won't lose weight. Not sure if this is true or any of the facts behind it but it's worth a shot. Good luck!

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1/3/13 4:21 P


Have you ever had your body fat percentage ever done professionally ? Not with a body fat scale or those hand held devices. Both are notoriously inaccurate. One test you could have is a 9 point caliper test. A personal trainer can do this test for you. they'll take a set of calipers, pinch nine points on your body. they'll then take those measurements and plug them into equations. Those calculations will give you your current body fat percentage.

The reason you may find it so difficult to lose weight is because your body fat may be at a healthy percentage even if you don't think so. the closer a person is to a healthy weight for their height, the harder it is to lose any perceived excess.

The fact is, women tend to be very critical of their bodies. We think we're fat when we really aren't.

What's a healthy body fat percentage ? Depending on age and level of fitness, a woman can carry anywhere from 20-29% body fat. If a woman's body fat goes too low (top athletes, models), they are at risk for a number of medical issues. Example, women athletes with low low body fat are prone to osteoporosis. So, as women, we do have to carry a certain amount of fat to be healthy.

The problem is that the media and society tell us we should be THIN. Well, that's just not typical. Good health really does come in different shapes and sizes.

Consider having your body fat professionally tested. If you're willing to shell out for hydrostatic testing, that's really the way to go. for convenience, any good PT can do the 9 point caliper test. Your body fat may be lower than you think. if so, that's why you won't lose five pounds in a week.

MEGAPEEJ Posts: 732
1/3/13 4:19 P

Sure, bones only WEIGH a certain amount (I'm pretty sure we have more than 20 lbs worth of bones though), but they create a structure, a scaffolding, that you can't get smaller than. If you have a large build, your bones are built in to a certain structure, and you cannot make that structure smaller. You can not lose weight in your bones. If your hip bones are 15" apart, they will always be 15" apart. You can not then make your hips 14" wide.

Also, you're not taking in to account organs, skin, connective tissue, muscle, things that will always weigh a certain amount.

Please be realistic. Just because a certain BMI is considered "healthy", doesn't mean everyone of that height can and should achieve it. A BMI of 20 would suit someone with a very small frame (a small "scaffolding" in my previous example). I have a similar height to you, am a medium build, and I would be incredibly unhealthy at 150 lbs. I'm not saying that I am you, or that you should do the same things as me, but we do have similarities in regards to our ideal BMIs.

Again, what weight do your doctors feel you should aim for?

Edited by: MEGAPEEJ at: 1/3/2013 (16:21)
BUBBLEJ1 Posts: 2,981
1/3/13 4:14 P

It is in the healthy range, but it is low. That is all I am saying. If you want to lose weight then you need the following things

- A realistic goal of 1/2lb - 1lb per week
- Eat within your recommended spark range
- Exercise a couple of times a week, including strength training
- Patience

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1/3/13 4:02 P

Yeah well bones only weigh 20 pounds anyway and I know my bones aren't what is causing me to look this way. 150 is a perfectly healthy weight for someone who is 5 11 a bmi of 20 is also in the healthy weight range.

LUANN_IN_PA Posts: 26,705
1/3/13 3:49 P

"I have a large built and I dont like it "

Well, a large build means you have large bones, and bones are heavy.
No diet in the world will change that.

BUBBLEJ1 Posts: 2,981
1/3/13 3:47 P

That is a fairly low weight for someone of your height. It is a BMI of 20 (flawed scale, yes, but has its uses).

Since you don't have much to lose I would suggest a goal of 1/2lb a week.

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1/3/13 3:41 P

my goal weight is 150

MEGAPEEJ Posts: 732
1/3/13 3:32 P

What is your goal weight?

More specifically, since you say you've talked to doctors about your weight, what weight do your doctors think you should be?

We can't really fight our builds. If you have a large build you can't change that - it's your bone structure after all. But you can change how your weight looks on you. I'll second the recommendation for strength training - muscle definition looks good, after all. ;) It may be what you need to convert any "squishy" bits you don't like into something a little more firm.

SCARLETANGEL3 SparkPoints: (82)
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1/3/13 2:49 P

I have a large built and I dont like it it may be perfectly "healthy" but it doesnt look good. ( I'm talking about myself some people can pull it off not me)

MEGAPEEJ Posts: 732
1/3/13 2:14 P

I'm 5' 10" and 170 is my goal weight. 174 for your height is a perfectly healthy weight to be and puts you in the "normal" range. Depending on your build, bone structure, muscle, etc, you may very well not have 5 pounds to lose, period.

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1/3/13 2:11 P

Good posts - - we have to somehow not be so obsessed with th scale!

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1/3/13 2:01 P

Here's what you need to do to get started.

Start weighing and measuring everything you eat. And I mean everything! It's important to track it all. Do so for a week. Create a SparkPage here, and share your trackers. Then, we can provide you more specific help based on what you are doing.

It's just as important to eat ENOUGH as it is to eat less than you need for maintenance. Skipping meals and not eating won't make you l ose weight faster, it will actually slow the process, and sabotage your efforts! Your body needs adequate fuel to function.

At 5'11 and 174? You're already in a normal body mass index. What is your current goal weight? You're going to struggle to lose because you don't have much TO lose! A healthy BMI is between 18.5 and 24.9 - you're at the upper end of that, 24.3.

You are DEFINITELY never going to be able to lose 5 lbs a week... not when you're already at a healthy weight. What weight you lose is going to be measured in quarter pounds and half pounds, if at all.

Why not focus less on the scale, and more on composition? Where you are, the scale won't be of much use to you, because you're already at a healthy weight. Start exercising and strength training, and improve the body you already have!

Edited by: DRAGONCHILDE at: 1/3/2013 (14:08)
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1/3/13 1:51 P

I'm 5 11 and 174 to answer the questions and my dr's havent been able to find a health issue of why my weight wont go away

DMJAKES Posts: 1,635
1/3/13 1:25 P

From your posts, it's hard to tell what kind of advice to would help to be able to see your food and exercise trackers. However, here's my .02, for what it's worth:

You stated you'd been to doctors....did they check for the usual "unable to lose weight" things like thyroid issues? If not, go back and make sure they do a thorough workup to eliminate or confirm a medical cause for your inability to lose weight. If you're taking anything for the depression, ask about any effect those meds may have on weight loss.

If neither of the above is applicable, then you need to look very closely at what you're eating and how much. As others have said, it's quite possible to gain weight eating the good stuff. If you haven't already done so, set up all your info in spark and let it compute a calorie range for you. Make sure your goal weight and time frame are reasonable---at 174 pounds you're probably not too far off from goal weight, unless you're super petite. Track everything you put in your mouth---don't just eyeball it, measure it out and be 100% honest about it. After the month is up, you should be able to see trends and patterns in your eating, and what you need to work on should be evident. Pick one thing you can change and work on it until you've got it mastered; then pick another, etc.

Once you've got somewhat of a handle on your diet, exercise should become more of a priority. If you've walked 8 miles a day in the past, you may need to bump up the intensity in order to get your body to respond. Try 30 minutes of intervals (walking for 1-2 minutes, then speed walking or jogging for 30 seconds, for example). Any activity that will force your heart rate up and then back down multiple times will work. Work up to doing that 2 or 3 days a week. Then, learn about strength training and incorporate 2 full body workouts per week, with at least 1 full day between for muscle recovery. Be sure to have at least 1 day per week with no (or very mild) cardio or strength training per week.

Lastly, I'd forget (or at least downplay) the number on the scale and focus on how you FEEL. If you are patient and give your new healthy habits time to sink in and work, results will come. Maybe not as fast as you'd like, but they WILL happen.

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1/3/13 1:18 P

This is what happens from watching shows like the Biggest Loser and Extreme Weight shows. You see them working out for 1 /2 hours and think, Hey I should be able to loose that much in a week, why not, they are....

It is really the deficit of 18,000 calories... So for people who are on the biggest loser and working out in extrememe conditions for up to 8 hours a day, (under close dr. supervision!) then it is really weight loss.

The first week of a diet is historically for me to best -- averaging about 4 -5 pounds, not because I have that be of a calorie deficit, but because I started drinking all of my water again...

ARMARTIN527 SparkPoints: (15,818)
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1/3/13 12:13 P

You CAN lost 5lbs in one week, but it's not going to be fat, it'll be mostly water. Cut out all refined carbs. Stick to a high protein, high fat diet.

But the bigger issue here is that weight loss just isn't "calories in less than calories out." There's hormonal factor as well. You could possibly be leptin resistant (google it, it's too much to explain here). Have you had blood work done? Are you insulin resistant, glucose intolerant, diabetic, etc.? How tall are you? Maybe 174 is a perfectly good weight for you. Have you had your body fat tested? Again, you could be at a perfectly healthy body fat percentage- the scale weight doesn't mean anything.

In order to really know what is going on in your body and figure out the best weight loss solution, you need to get tests done.

LUANN_IN_PA Posts: 26,705
1/2/13 8:34 P

" I can cut out all bad food and walk eight miles a day and my scale will never budge past 174"

Are you tracking your calories?
Cutting out bad food isn't enough. Eating the wrong amount of 'good food' can be just as detrimental.

Edited by: LUANN_IN_PA at: 1/2/2013 (20:35)
BUBBLEJ1 Posts: 2,981
1/2/13 8:34 P

ST is strength training.

You mentioned that your eating is sporadic. You may not being eating much, which could explain a halt in your weight loss.

I recommend talking to your doctor about how you are feeling. I can relate, I have depression myself. Mine in manged through exercise (my outlet), but your doctor may have different suggestions for you. I know that not being able to lose weight is hard, and when you have depression and feel hopeless it just seems harder.

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1/2/13 8:32 P

And I'm am guessing that ST is strength training

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1/2/13 8:31 P

Technically, what is needed to lose 5 lbs per week is a calorie deficit of 17,500 calories. That is not only unlikely, it is totally unrealistic and unhealthy.
Try for 1.5 to 2 lbs a week, that you can achieve.

MELISSAKAY78 Posts: 533
1/2/13 8:30 P

I am no expert but stress and depression can really effect your weight-so I've heard

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1/2/13 8:20 P

Sorry not familiar with fitness talk so not sure what ST is and I used to walk 8 miles a day now it depends on the day and I have been really depressed now so maybe thats partially why.

BUBBLEJ1 Posts: 2,981
1/2/13 8:05 P

I agree with Heather. You can eat healthy foods and still overeat; I know, I can do it daily. Are you tracking your food? Are you being as honest and accurate as possible by weighing your food?

You say you walk 8 miles a day. How long have you been doing this for? If it has been a while your body may be used to it, and it is no longer as much of a challenge, and therefore the calories burned will be less. I can walk until the cows come home and not feel like I have had a workout, unless I throw in some serious hills. Try changing up your exercise, maybe start jogging? Also, where is your ST? It is essential. I truly believe that I would still be fat if I had stuck to cardio alone. ST helps you to burn more calories while at rest, and help you to look and feel better.

Also, sharing your trackers will help us give you better, more specific advice :)

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1/2/13 8:00 P

Right this second I am not really able to eat because of stress and stuff I do eat but its sporadically. Whenever I restart my plan I don't really stray from it too much I mostly like hiking as well as cardio and stuff to tone such as yoga and pilates but still nothing. My doctor doesn't seem to know either and I have seen lots of them it just frustrates me that whenever I do work my butt off I still never see results.

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1/2/13 7:52 P

Have you talked to your doctor? If you are otherwise doing things right, but not losing weight, there may be an underlying medical issue at play.

What are you doing so far? Are you counting calories, weighing and measuring your food, or are you just "eating healthier" and working out a little? Cutting out bad food is a start, but isn't enough; you can still overeat on "good" food! You can't out-exercise a bad diet.

Specifics on your plan, and sharing your nutrition/fitness trackers can help us give you more specific advice.

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1/2/13 7:39 P

Iv'e tried diet and excerise and trust me when I say I don't lose weight no matter what I do. I can cut out all bad food and walk eight miles a day and my scale will never budge past 174 and I have wasted my whole life trying to lose this weight to no avail.

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1/2/13 7:20 P

I would change your expectations. It's better to do it healthy than quick. That's the difference between yo-yo dieting and a lifestyle change. If you want to lose that much weight do something outrageous and unsustainable such as the special k diet or the old school grapefruit diet. If you want to live a healthier lifestyle and keep the weight off I would log all your food and exercise on here.

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1/2/13 7:05 P

I just want to know what I can do even if it isn't a consistent thing because at this point and am never reaching my goal weight and no one seems to know why :(

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1/1/13 3:37 P

Such good and expert advice here .......... Once you get going, the weight will come off .......... be patient ......... And try not to focus too much on those scales .........

1/1/13 11:37 A

Early stages of weight loss it is possible to lose that much. BUT don't expect or plan on it. Be happy with a couple pounds a week, until you get down close to your target, at which point be happy with half a pound a week. Actually, you want to lose gradually. If you lose 5 lbs the first week, please don't expect that same amount the second.

I think that gradual weight loss means weight will stay off, more certainly than if you do the plummetting thang down the scales. In the latter case, the body feels deprived and starved, and decides to adjust your metabolism accordingly...

BUBBLEJ1 Posts: 2,981
1/1/13 2:42 A

You can't lose that much a week safely or consistently. You could possibly lose that for 1-2 weeks when you start, depending on how much you weigh, but that will mainly be water weight, and your rate of weight loss will slow as you start losing mainly fat. Losing your weight slowly is NOT a bad thing! It took me a year to lose 40lb and I wouldn't change a thing. It allowed me to learn about how to lose weight, and to have meals out, and to eat junk food in moderation (due to a higher calorie range)

So, how can you lose weight in a safe and healthy way?

1. Track what you eat. Everything. Be honest. Stick to your spark ranges, and get in a good amount of fruits and veggies to fill you up.
2. Start an exercise program. Find something you like to do, that you will stick to. Or find 2-3 somethings, to give you variety. Do a mixture of cardio and strength training. ST will allow you to maintain lean muscle mass, ensuring that the majority of your weight loss is coming from fat.
3. Stick with it, but don't beat yourself up if you get off track. It happens to everyone. A cookie/cupcake/pizza won't ruin your weight loss efforts unless you let it.

Best of luck!

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12/31/12 11:18 P

To lose 5 lbs a week, you would need to weigh over 500 lbs.

You can safely attempt to lose approximately 1% of your total body weight, or 3% of your total weight loss goal, each week. This doesn't mean you always will. A good average is 1-2 lbs, but if you're under 200 lbs, 2 lbs per week will become increasingly difficult.

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12/31/12 6:45 P


SparkPeople and most experts do not recommend losing more than 1-2 pounds per week--in doing so, you are not eating enough calories to sustain normal biological functioning. Depending on how much weight you need to lose the rate at which one loses will vary-- for those who are quite overweight, it is not unusual to lose more in the beginning and then slow down. If you are close to a healthy weight, even losing 1-2 pounds a week may be difficult to do.

If you go to your Start Page in the My Goals and Progress Section you should be able to set up your program that will allow for a healthy weight loss goal per week. Just remember though, what looks good on paper does not always transcribe to the real world.

I hope this helps!

Coach Nancy

12/31/12 6:43 P

It is not healthy to attempt to lose 5 lbs. a week. In fact it is best to aim to lose about 2-3 lbs. on average a week. The best way to lose weight is going to sound really strange, but it is important to eat. However I mean it is important to eat enough calories to sustain your body. Eating things like lean proteins (chicken and fish) and green leafy plants (romaine lettuce, kale, and other plants), as well as all different types of other vegetables and fruit. It is also extremely important to not forget the working out portion of losing weight. The two most important forms of working out are weight lifting and cardio. Both will not only help you lose weight but also maintain weight after you reach your goal weight. Another thing to remember it is important to take at least one day off from working out. This might sound weird but your body needs time to repair after a workout.

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12/31/12 6:36 P

input and output this whole process is confusing just trying to figure things out ?

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