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8/30/13 8:00 P

I did it! Today I ordered pizza and ate it in a sensible way. I did not overeat or exceed my daily calorie allowance. I am so happy. It was such a different experience from feeling very hungry and ambivalent to guilty about ordering it, then eating it all and feeling regret and disappointment over my perceived failure to reach my goal. It was good! I reached a goal!

8/26/13 1:10 P

Thanks, everyone! Now I am well equipped to resist the siren call of pizza.

8/13/13 9:13 P

Thank you, AugustReady. I couldn't possibly put an oven and a freezer in this rental unit. It's a good idea, though.

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8/13/13 3:35 P

When I lived in a similar situation, I bought a hot plate, a small oven that would sit on the counter and a small chest freezer. With these items (all relatively inexpensive) there really is no excuse not to do your own cooking. I really don't think it is possible to live a healthy and dietary lifestyle unless you are doing most of your own cooking.

If you want to try making slightly healthier pizza a home, it can also be cooked on an outdoor grill.

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8/13/13 12:02 A

That's great; good for you!

Just a gentle suggestion that if you only focus on total calories, you are missing the main point about moving towards a more healthy diet...

Some other things to keep an eye on - are you eating with the recommended ranges for fat, protein and carbs? Are you getting enough fibre? Do you eat enough fresh food to get all the vitamins and minerals your body needs to function well?

I don't want to sound harsh, but anyone who is struggling with daily pizza deliveries in my experience is struggling with food generally...hence my questions earlier...

All the best...

8/12/13 11:43 P

No, actually my Nutrition Tracker indicates that all is well calorie-wise except for pizza deliveries. I've focused on those to reap the greatest benefit from my efforts.

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8/12/13 6:28 P

Is pizza your only weakness?

Your tracker says you have 89kgs to lose, which indicates you have gained a very significant amount of weight.

How quickly is unknown, but given you are a student, you've probably been very overweight most of your life?

It seems to me that you'd be better off focussing on creating a healthy lifestyle for yourself, rather than getting fixated on eliminating one food that you enjoy eating all the time.

I suspect if you are honest with yourself, there will be many other foods you also eat regularly that have contributed to your current weight.

Perhaps your real question in all this is how do you start eating healthy when your living situation makes it hard to cook fresh food.

Where there is a will, there is always a way...there are plenty of meals you can cook using fresh ingredients that don't require a fridge or much in the way of cooking facilities...

If this is your real question, can I suggest you rephrase it and repost? You'll get some great suggestions if I'm on the right track here...

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8/12/13 4:32 P

"Most of us stick to the " everything in moderation " folly, and so we eat junk food part-time, when with a month of healthy eating, we would switch, and no longer crave pizza, or ice cream, which do nothing for us. You would start craving vegetables, fruits, grains, beans, and lean meats. Sadly, the prevailing idea that it is okay to eat food that is bad for us in moderation, keeps us eating just enough garbage to keep us from changing our habits. "

I'm so torn on how to respond to this. I do believe in "everything in moderation", very much. However, I think if you look from the outside at what I am doing, you probably wouldn't believe it -- you'd think you were looking at someone who'd cut a whole bunch of things out (essentially just junk food, but it's still a lot of stuff) and has occasional screw-ups. When actually that's what I'm trying to do, precisely: to keep many things that people tend to think are bad in my diet (not all of them, but many), but only to indulge in them rarely. Because I think that's their proper place in a healthy diet and as part of a healthy lifestyle (mental is important as well) -- as rare treats.

To me, pizza (good pizza) is delicious. Still is. But I've eaten it less than once a month since December. I've had ice cream exactly once in that time period. Cheeseburger once. Muffins never. Chocolate bars occasionally, one piece at a time. Home-baked deserts on special occasions. I don't crave any of those things, but I do still enjoy them (except the ice cream, which I could probably do without and never miss it) if they're well made.

I don't think it's necessarily beneficial to most people to tell themselves at least at the outset that they are cutting out certain things forever and ever. Even the scientific evidence shows that those types of diets usually fail -- they're not a significant advantage over traditional ways of losing weight for most people. And I think a large part of that is purely mental. You can't be resentful of what you're doing if you want to have long term success. Restricting more than is necessary to lose weight breeds resentment.

Where I do agree with you, and vehemently so, is that cold-turkey on many types of junk food *does* work. It does change your tastes. It does destroy cravings. It will wind up -- provided mental factors don't get in the way -- with you wanting more of the good things for you and less of the bad. And I do agree that trying to wedge in "moderate" amounts of junk foods into a restricted-calorie diet on a daily basis could well wind up causing more problems than it solves, in terms of being hungrier than you need to be, and in terms of failing to ever remove the habit of or the taste for the problematic foods in the first place. But if you cut things down low enough, you may well be able to solve those problems without adding in the mental burden of trying to remove them completely up front.

Maybe 'all things in moderation', but for stuff that's objectively unhealthy, 'moderation' is a lot less often than most people think of it -- that's what I believe.

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8/12/13 2:19 P

No specific recipes, but the trick to pizza is the spice. Usually when someone says they're craving pizza, they're really craving the particular combination of tomato and spice. It's basil, garlic, oregano, a tiny bit of crushed dried red pepper flake, and sometime thyme or marjoram, etc. If you can find a store that sells spices in bulk jars, smell the jars and buy a tablespoon or so of anything that smells like it belongs on pizza. Try different combinations on english muffin or pita pizza, or on pasta marinara, until you get one that really tastes right.

KNUCKLES145 Posts: 16,178
8/12/13 1:58 P

another trick that might help.....anytime you think about ordering pizza and dont, transfer the money you would have spent into a savings account. :)

8/12/13 1:57 P

Any good pizza recipes?

KARA623 Posts: 727
8/12/13 10:21 A

Pizza was a big challenge for me because it was my number one comfort food and the main contributor to my weight gain. I had to come to terms that while i COULD have pizza, I could NEVER order a whole pizza to be delivered to my house. The way I broke myself of the habit was by planning to have pizza - real pizza, not home-made, not a slimmed down version - on occasion and in moderation. When I first started, I would only eat fast food or restaurant meals on the weekends. So I would plan to go workout and plan my whole day around getting a personal pan pizza (or a slice or two). I was able to get it off my mind by realizing that I would have it soon, so I didn't need to have it that day.

If you're craving it, acknowledge it, and plan to have it on an upcoming day when you can fit it in in a moderate amount. The craving for it has waned, but I still love it, and I sometimes still salivate when I drive by or see a commercial. But I'm in control of it now, and I took the power back not by denying myself the pleasure of having it, but by having on MY terms, under MY control. That's what worked for me.

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8/12/13 9:00 A

Make a good healthy version yourself! You might enjoy the experience as well as the pizza!

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8/12/13 6:44 A

Russell's actually right- your tastes and cravings will change. Much as I consider pizza a lovely food (sorry) - I hardly ever have it now because I want other foods more most of the time. But when I want pizza, it's there in the freezer, lovingly packaged up by the slice long ago... For me, I found that having it available anytime was all I needed to relax about having to eat it all right now (my brother was a fast eater and traumatized me, I never got seconds of anything good and once he stole a piece of precious pizza right off my plate!). I need to wait a couple of hours between slices to keep my innards completely happy, but I hardly ever actually go for that second slice. That's probably how the "all things in moderation" mantra got started. By not forbidding any food, we are free to decide not to eat it as well, no "last meal" mentality. But yes, you will start craving carrots eventually.

8/12/13 3:19 A

Thanks. Filling the fridge with good things sounds helpful.

RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
8/12/13 2:53 A

Any food that you eat, or quit eating, will become normal for you in 3-4 weeks. That food that you can't do without, will no longer be the food you desire. The new food you eat, as long as it is edible will replace it.

Most of us stick to the " everything in moderation " folly, and so we eat junk food part-time, when with a month of healthy eating, we would switch, and no longer crave pizza, or ice cream, which do nothing for us. You would start craving vegetables, fruits, grains, beans, and lean meats. Sadly, the prevailing idea that it is okay to eat food that is bad for us in moderation, keeps us eating just enough garbage to keep us from changing our habits. We can't taste the salt in plain chicken, or the sweetness of an orange pepper. The good food doesn't taste as good, and the bad food is so easy to get.

I would buy the a 2 burner hot plate, and cook my own meals. In a month, pizza won't even sound that good.

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8/12/13 12:20 A

Would it be possible to order a slice of pizza with a side salad?

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8/11/13 11:34 P

The problem isn't the pizza but how much you eat of it at a time. If you have a way to reheat slices, just package the slices in aluminum foil or plastic and keep in the refrigerator for your daily pizza fix. If you have a tiny freezer, you could stash a few slices in there for longer storage so it doesn't have to be a daily fix. Really good pizza is great cold, though. Highly recommended for breakfast...:)

If the slices are too many calories for you even one at a time, just cut them into smaller slices. You might even ask the pizzaria to cut more slices per pie for you.

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8/11/13 7:40 P

why not buy a little bench-top oven with a hot plate on top? That way you could make your own healthy pizza, and a variety of other food too. It doesn't take up much space. Gradually build up a good supply of shelf (as opposed to refrigerator) food - things like lentils, brown rice, wholemeal pasta, beans, canned fish, etc. In time you will find that you are saving heaps of money and getting far better nutrition in the process.


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8/11/13 7:21 P

When my family goes on vacation we always need to cook for ourselves, since my husband and son are vegetarian, my husband has a tomato allergy, and my son has a dairy allergy. We couldn't really make it on restaurant food for any length of time. We've made it for extended periods of time on a smuggled hot plate and a hotel-room-size refrigerator (never mind dorm size, never mind toaster oven or microwave or any other such "luxuries"). The one thing you do need, which you sort of touched on, is easy access to the vegetables and meat you're going to be cooking with, because you can't really store much of anything perishable. So if you have a store nearby, you're fine, because you just go shopping for new stuff whenever you need it, which could be every other day on average. But given that, it's totally doable to eat pretty well without relying on takeout at all.

And restaurant food is almost never going to be as healthy or as reliably low calorie as you can make yourself, no matter where you get it. That's not what restaurant food is for. It's not intended to be eaten every single day.

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8/11/13 2:09 P

I sympathize. I got into a terrible pizza habit during my undergraduate education and it really was a hard habit to break!

I'm actually going to go against the grain and suggest that instead of trying to cook more, find different places to deliver, and ALWAYS order a salad with your other food. Or, order different things from the pizza place. Do they have pasta dishes? Can you get spaghetti & salad? If they won't deliver a salad, don't order from there. Also, make each order last for at least two or three meals, four even if you can stretch it that far.

Or, walk somewhere to eat out. I know some areas don't have many places nearby enough to walk, but if you're walking at least you're expending energy.

Those small dorm fridges are basically good for leftovers and canned beverages. They don't keep the food you need to cook with cold enough to stay fresh, and if you are living in a very small space, washing up from cooking can also be inconvenient. Also, the convenience food that is made for this situation is also full of sodium and fat, so it's really not much better than the pizza. I think it is more of a pain than it's worth, unless you are completely broke and needing to eat cans of beans and tuna to survive. But that doesn't sound like your situation from what you have said so far.

ANARIE Posts: 13,200
8/11/13 1:58 P

Do some Googling on small appliances. I know that someone makes a combination toaster over/hot plate/ coffee maker for around $50. That's less than the difference between delivery pizza versus simple home cooking for a week, and it would give you the ability to make your own single-serving pizzas, bake a few healthy muffins or sweet potato, cook pasta or eggs, steam veggies, and so on. They also make tiny microwaves for under $50. Now is a good time to shop for things like that because they're in the back-to-school sales. And if money is a concern, those things actually hold value surprisingly well. You can sell it on Craig's List or at a yard sale or consignment shop for at least half what you paid for it.

8/11/13 12:29 P

That is true. I keep reminding myself that there was life before pizza deliveries and there will be life after them, too.

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8/11/13 12:27 P

It's possible to do great things with an electric skillet, so I'd definitely support that suggestion. The number one way to decrease a dependency on delivery or take-out of any kind is to cook for yourself and enjoy doing it, so being capable of that is a must. If there are stores nearby, then even a dorm-sized refrigerator can handle the small stocks of vegetables and meat that you'd probably be dealing with, and the leftovers.

As for the temptation angle, all there really is for it for the first little while is just to do it, same as with breaking any other bad habit. I have a deli two houses down that used to be my go-to place for muffins and ice cream; when I wanted to stop snacking on those things, I just had to stay away from the deli. So I did. Assuming you don't wind up having problems with eating small amounts of something like pizza, then there's no reason you couldn't work a single slice into your meal plan every now and then if it's something you truly enjoy. But that means don't order an entire pizza -- just go somewhere like a mall food court or a pizza place that has take-out where you can buy a single slice and sit down and enjoy it.

8/11/13 12:05 P

Thanks! I don't have a microwave. I order online with my debit card. I could prepare my own pizza in an electric skillet and make sure that it is low enough in sodium, calories, and fat.

SONICB Posts: 4,381
8/11/13 9:54 A

Make your own pizza from whole wheat pita bread (or some other form of wheat bread), pizza/spaghetti sauce, and shredded cheese! Do you have microwave access?

I enjoy the occasional pizza delivery as well, but it is just too expensive of a habit to keep up.

DDBRENNE Posts: 915
8/11/13 7:54 A

Add up all the money you would save by NOT ordering pizza for a year or a month or whatever time period you chose. The find something (non food) that you want that cost that much live without the pizza, buy yourself a prize.

On another note a lot of pizza places take credit over the phone for delivery if you are racking up a credit bill as a result of the pizza addiction, then remember you may be paying for the pizza for longer than you think financially and health wise, My rule, never buy food/drink on credit.

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8/11/13 7:38 A

One of the best pieces of advice I ever got was to never bring forbidden food (food you crave or can't resist) into your home. If I bring it into my home I will eat it all, even when I think I'll save some for another day, I never do. If I got to have it, I eat out and get the smallest serving I can order.

Another good piece of advice was to replace bad habit with a healthier alternative. This time of year fresh fruits and vegetables are abundant. I love, love, love cantaloupe and honeydew melon. I'll sit down with a big bowl of melon and be satisfied.

If you don't have a microwave, get one. Then check out Weight Watchers or Lean Cuisine entries. They're not as healthy as preparing your own meals but for someone who doesn't have a kitchen they are a good alternative.

CMCOLE Posts: 2,667
8/11/13 6:49 A

definitely a portable appliance such as you describe would be helpful, as you could prepare food yourself.

Even a small toaster oven would possibly help (or combination toaster/convection oven, which may be more versatile - you'll have to compare features).

I like the idea of 'no cash at home' as a helpful solution

KPA1B2 Posts: 785
8/10/13 8:20 P

For me, it's not about getting rid of a certain food, but learning to eat it in moderation. Having said that, there are certain foods that I try to avoid unless it is in a single serving package. I will just eat the entire package.

Some thoughts: 1.) I'm assuming that you have to pay cash for a pizza delivery. Don't keep cash at home. If I don't have the cash, there are certain things I won't buy.

2.) Go somewhere where you can only get a single slice. (Is that even possible?)

Are you in a dorm? Is that why you have no kitchen?

8/10/13 7:25 P

I have developed a pizza delivery habit and gained weight as a result. It is too high in sodium, fat and calories to eat very often. I have a dorm-sized refrigerator with no kitchen. Would the purchase of an electric skillet help? It has a nonstick coating and could help me to prepare interesting and varied meals. I am usually staying within my ranges because I add exercise but I would really like to break this habit.

How do you displace a favorite food from your life?

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