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SMILEYGRL28 Posts: 135
3/10/13 7:39 P

I try to only weigh myself once or twice a week. Did you use the same scale both times? Same time of day? But most importantly like others have said don't just go by the scale- how you feel and how clothes are fitting you!

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3/10/13 7:28 P

Your new scale sounds great. I am glad mine is easy to read, too and pretty dependable - meaning it doesn't fluctuate much even if I get off and right back on...

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3/10/13 7:23 P

I just bought myself a new scale! I can read it better than my old one. Plus it doesn't go in only 1 pound increments. I have my tape measure for when my scales won't budge!!!

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3/10/13 6:17 P


I didn't use any of the supplements... and it works for most people without them. Those are there is people need a kick start.

Anyway - if people are having success without this GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And up until a few years ago it was very traditional for people to only eat 3 meals and no snacks...It just really worked for most people... So what went wrong?

Plenty of women struggle with weight, even while on a healthy diet. This was developed for those who can't figure out why the heck other plans aren't working for them...It was so amazing for me to follow a book (backed up by over 7500 studies, btw) that actually worked on my body.

It was relatively easy for me to follow after the first day or two - and I had been a grazer before that. But the first day or so I felt I was "starving" between meals - Ha! The body chemistry just needed to settle down.

I am on a slightly different plan now that follows much of the same science...It's a stronger plan, The Alternate Day Diet, and has healed many people of sever asthma (including me) after about 3 weeks on the diet. That one is harder for most people to follow, so I have plugged it here.

The 5 rules of Leptin are a cinch, actually. It's funny that it makes people freak out...It is simply 3 meals a day and don't overdo the carbs... That used to be considered normal.

Edited by: GOLDENANGELFISH at: 3/10/2013 (18:18)
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3/10/13 5:53 P

The scale drives me crazy. I use what I see in the mirror and how my clothes fit as a guideline. I only weigh once a month

EBETHET Posts: 254
3/10/13 4:56 P

I am trying to weigh only once a week. I was weighing every day. If my weight was down, I tended to eat more. If it was up, I would eat less. I believe weighing every day works for people who want to maintain their weight, but I am looking to lose weight.

I am going to take my measurement today because I am working out more and I may have lost some inches.

When I get discouraged with my weights ups and downs, I remind myself that I am in better health than I was and I still weigh less than I did before. My blood pressure is normal and I am more active.

Edited by: EBETHET at: 3/10/2013 (16:57)
KDYLOSE Posts: 1,665
3/10/13 4:46 P

When I want to stay away from the scale for a while but can't help peeking, I have my husband hide it. Sometimes I just need to focus on following my program, not on the numbers.

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3/10/13 4:34 P

GOLDENANGELFISH - that Leptin Diet may be o.k. for a few, but some of the advice isn't the best for a lot of people. The gap between meals is l-o-n-g and cause cause a huge number to end up binging or grabbing totally poor choice foods. The no eating after night meals can cause huge issues too. I know that that have for me and many others I personally know. I am one of the many who NEED snacks - not eat them because I want them.

I am not a Diabetic, but for a lot, that advice would be totally the wrong thing.

I found it rather interesting that the site you linked us to has a shop, and the March Specials have supplements listed:

Daily Super Pack
Daily Energy
Multiple Vitamin
Daily Protector

Daily DHA
Daily Bone Xcel
Daily Builder
Daily Balancer

Daily Super E
Super Mini-Multi

Perhaps if it 'allowed' people to eat normally/properly, these wouldn't be 'needed' ????


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3/10/13 4:19 P


That's kind of mean - I posted it for those who don't read back very far... you know as a kindness... And all I said is "for the curious"

My response to your first cutting remark was respectful - I said you don't need to do it if your strategy was working. Basically - I think the younger we are - the less we need to worry about the Leptin resistance, etc - the body simply works better when people are younger.

I've heard that the chat boards on Spark, as elsewhere, can be pretty mean... Now I've experienced it. Umm... is it dieting or what, that does it?

My sympathies go out to people who have been through what I've been through with weight loss... For so many years I struggled hard with weight, and that science was what finally made it click for me...same calories... but a different strategy....

emoticon to all

Edited by: GOLDENANGELFISH at: 3/10/2013 (16:25)
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3/10/13 4:06 P

I prefer to wait a week or two, and I make sure to do it at times when food's have been properly digested. If I want to peek at the scale early then I peek. I've even weighed myself just for kicks after I've eaten or at other inopportune times just to see the difference it makes, which helps me to not take it so seriously. Waiting usually feels like more of a reward or surprise. However, I also keep in mind things that will add to the scale, such as food, beverages, sodium, bloatedness in general, and even me gaining muscle to replace the fat.

In the end, though, I try to go for feel and how clothes fit. It's often where 15-20 pounds means I'm up or down a size, either in shirts or pants, depending on my start point. I also pay attention to how my body looks and feels. It's really easy to see, after a good 10 or more pounds, the changes in your body, even if you may not be losing a lot of actual weight. So I say don't just rely on the scale, but also what you see and how you feel, what your clothes fit like, or even how your face looks. It can vary for each person, but I tend to lose in the face first, then the back, hips, waits, then thighs/legs.

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3/10/13 3:51 P

desperate much?

You posted the link to the leptin book twice....

AEGISHOT Posts: 4,667
3/10/13 3:30 P

I just stumbled on this thread right now and it made me resolute the more. No more weigh in now till a month, I wish to chose a time that is safe though. I just realized my cycle is giving me a lot of hassles in relation to the scale and I am not welcoming that idea at all. I will not like anything messing my vision on this weight-loss journey.

I think once a month is good or even forget about the scale totally.

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3/10/13 1:36 P

(To someone a few posts back who said: the "Leptin advice is horrible")

But I say it works. They devised it for women who had very resistant weight to lose (such as yours truly). It is very scientific. And they say if you can't make it to the next meal, then you didn't get enough protein or saturated fat at the last meal...

It worked for me (and other variations of the science that require short periods of fasting between meals) - You don't need to try it if the pickles thing works for you. emoticon

For the curious:
The Five Rules of The Leptin Diet

Edited by: GOLDENANGELFISH at: 3/10/2013 (13:39)
LAURENXX19 Posts: 547
3/10/13 1:31 P

I usually only weigh myself once a week.

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3/10/13 1:13 P

I normally weigh myself once a week, but weighed myself yesterday to see if I had gone up and found to my amazement that I'd gone down and reached my goal! Having announced that enthusiastically yesterday, I find I've gone up again today! I was hoping to reach my goal by the end of this month, so am not too worried. I'm more worried about needing to restrict my exercise as I'd overexercised.

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3/10/13 12:26 P

I weigh when I think about it, usually once or twice a week. Too often and I get obsessed with the small day-to-day nuances and fluctuations. Too rarely and the weight sneaks back on too easily.

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3/10/13 12:11 P

I, too, weigh daily. If I weighed once a week or month and I found I had gained, I'd be very discouraged and it would take a month of Sundays to lose just 1 of the gained lbs.

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3/10/13 11:53 A

I weigh myself pretty much everyday. For me it keeps me on track. Last Febuary was when I initally started my diet, and by the end of June I had lost 40 pounds.

At this point I started a new Job that really wore me out, so I lost track of eating healthy and working out. So between August of last year and March of this year I gained back 8 pounds. So, I put myself back on track. So since last thursday I have lost a pound, and the scale goes down a small amount of ounces each day. And even if it fluctuates, I dont let it get me down, just so long as I continue to see consistant progress and the number continues to gradually go down. I expect the fluctuations, im a woman, so it can go up and down for me anywhere from 2-3 pounds a day.

So dont let the number get you down, focus on other things, and make sure you focus more on how you feel then what the number says. There are days where I feel HUGE, but the scale tells me otherwise...really...most of the time...its all on attitude and perception!


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3/10/13 11:27 A

That leptin diet advise is horrible....

"Allow 5-6 hours between meals. Do not snack."

I would totally blow up emoticon

......if I couldn't have my daily snack of pickles with mustard and a glass of air!

Edited by: AILEBBELIA at: 3/10/2013 (11:56)
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3/10/13 11:04 A

Weight is actually very scientific -

Read The Five Rules of The Leptin Diet

Your weight won't fluctuate "4 pounds up for no reason" unless you are breaking one of these rules. It can all be used with normal spark people or ww diets etc. I was on WW for years and couldn't lose weight until I did this... It turned on the switch and worked like the researcher said it would.

I can't say about TOM - because I was on my way out of that ball park when I started this... but I do think that TOM month can make women want to eat more... Needs careful tracking for sure...

JLGGLASS Posts: 916
3/10/13 10:45 A

Every day, I can't trust myself to not cheat, just a little, if I don't hold myself accountable. Once I cheat it's too easy to continue. My weight will always be an issue because I like to eat.

3/10/13 10:40 A

I check the scale every day... for me it is a help just to see the effects of certain variations in diet like Chinese food the day before, or a celebration, etc. I don't obsess about the number. When I have a day that includes a healthy, portion-controlled diet and some exercise, I consider myself successful, regardless of the number on the scale. But no matter how much I know and accept about not giving that number on the scale too much power, it still sucks when it doesn't cooperate, and it takes perseverence and determination to press on. Then I consider the alternative... go back, resume old habits, regain some weight?... NO... better to press on! Where I am is better than where I was, and moving forward will be better still.

Onward! emoticon

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3/10/13 10:28 A

I thought I was alone in this train of thought but I see I am not. Thank the Heavens!!!!

I do weigh myself every morning. I think by doing so it makes me make healthier eating habits at work where they are some junk food junkies. If the scale has treated well all week then I allow myself to kind of have a cheat day. Of course I don't go overboard with what I eat or how much, its normally just not the healthiest thing in the world at the moment. As far as the time of the month, for myself I have noticed its normally a 5-8 lbs weight gain. Which so sucks!!!!! But I get on the scale after that time and 9 times out of 10 I'm 2 to 3 lbs lighter, which is AWESOME!!!! Its all about prospection and what works for you. I view my scale as a daily reminder to eat healthy and make better choices so that maybe I can reward myself later on.

AMARISRON Posts: 1,205
3/10/13 9:38 A

This is so encouraging, I struggle with this too since I have not been losing. I thank all of you who reminded us that eat BETTER and feeling BETTER are HUGE successes! I haven't felt this good in my entire life, so of course I am a success!!!

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3/10/13 12:31 A

Having the same problem myself...decided I'm not allowed to step on the scale until April 1st...and then will most likely only weigh myself once per month thereafter. It's just too disheartening when you have water fluctuations!!

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3/9/13 10:26 P

I always gain right before my cycle and I find if I keep my routine and exercise, I usually weigh less after my cycle is over.

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3/9/13 6:53 P

Today I weighed in at four pounds heavier than I was last week, and frankly I don't care. It's coming up to the time of the month for me, I've stayed within my calorie allowance the whole week, and I've put in a lot of fitness minutes. Added to that, my energy levels are up and my sleep is better.

Weight is a not very scientific method, really, for measuring your success. Try concentrating on how you feel mentally and physically, and living healthily. If you get obsessed with the scale it can seriously ruin your life, causing your self-esteem to drop and possibly leading to you making bad choices in trying to shift pounds you hadn't actually put on in fat. Added to that, it can take up to a week or more for any change in lifestyle to be reflected on the scale.

It really does sound as if you would benefit from finding different ways to measure the effects of your healthy lifestyle.

MAMACHAE74 Posts: 1,135
3/9/13 5:49 P

First, I was checking out your ticker and way to go for you for almost reaching your goal weight. Do you have a plan for keeping the weight off? I have issues with the scale as well. I have a 6-8 pound fluctuation every week, so I stopped believing the scale. I go by how my clothes are fitting. I noticed that I am able to comfortably fit my jeans that I have not been able to get into for about 6 months now. It is definitely frustrating to see the scale numbers go up or not move. If you are doing all that is right, maybe the last pound will be the hardest to see go.

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3/9/13 5:06 P

GOLDENANGELFISH - re that link you put up. I have to take exception at the generalization of that information. Whilst some of the information is fine, some of it may be o.k. for some there are MANY people it is just not suitable for, and some it could even be downright dangerous for. Diabetics are just one of those!

"Allow 11-12 hours between dinner and breakfast. Never go to bed on a full stomach. Finish eating dinner at least three hours before bed."

If I never ate anything from dinner to breakfast, I would be going between 13-15 hrs with no food. I would be waking in the middle of the night from hunger. I ALWAYS eat a snack of generally 1-200 calories immediately before bed, because I NEED to. Many people are like that.

"Allow 5-6 hours between meals. Do not snack."

If I don't snack I get nauseous and fatigue often starts to set in and then I crave food.

"Yes, you are supposed to get a snack between meals – but it is supposed to come from your liver. This is how your body naturally clears triglycerides from your blood. Besides that fact that these fat blobs confuse leptin, they are also headed in the direction of your hips, thighs, and stomach. So breaking them down and clearing them out is vital, and this only happens when you allow 5-6 hours between meals. When you clear your circulatory highways of extra fat during the day then leptin works better. When you do a great job during the day then you are much more likely to break down and burn stored fat from your hips and thighs while you are sleeping."

Again, this information CAN cause problems with some, again including some Diabetics

"The two signs of a poor breakfast are:
1) You are unable to make it five hours to lunch without food cravings or your energy crashing."

I hardly ever have a poor breakfast. Again, what I wrote above applies here, too.

I am not saying that ALL of that information is bunkum tho', but I note that it is a 'shop'-type site???


MARYJOANNA Posts: 7,053
3/9/13 4:48 P

I weigh myself morning and night. I don't view the scale as a hindrance but as a useful tool to judge my progress. If I am in a plateau, I can look back at what I used to weigh and celebrate how far I have come. I mark my weight down every morning.Just remember Rome wasn't built in a day.

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3/9/13 4:48 P

I take into consideration that there's different calibrations of every scale...

I have my own scale at home (rarely ever step on it)
I have the scale at the gym (I'm at the gym 2-4 days a week, I step on it only once in a week)
I have the scale at the doctors office (whenever I end up there, I'm weighed of course)

Those are the times I deal with The Scale. I long ago stopped weighing myself daily, for me that is just setting myself up for disappointment.

I do kept a file in my filing cabinet "My Measurements" its a spreadsheet of my body measurements from 2006 - to present day and its a better indication of how I'm doing, since with weight you have to take into consideration that muscle weighs more than fat.


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3/9/13 4:23 P

Your message on this message board is very informative. Thank you

JPGRAMMA SparkPoints: (7,345)
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3/9/13 4:23 P

I was weighing myself everyday and sometimes several times a day, so I decided that had to stop. I put the scale out of sight and in a place that was inconvenient to put my hands on. I thought it was going to be difficult, but it turned out that "out of sight, out of mind" is really true.

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3/9/13 4:23 P

I use the same scale at the same time every morning, with the scale always in the same position so it is a good measurement of where my weight is going. It tells me whether or not to stay way at the low end of my calories for the day, or whether to go ahead and have a piece of chocolate....

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3/9/13 3:47 P

I weigh myself every morning but I really shouldn't. Weight fluctuations really affect me emotionally but I am trying very hard this time not to get discouraged and just continue to plug along with eating healthy and being active. I feel I am off to a good start this time (after yo-yo dieting my entire life) so I am looking at the big picture and trying not to let the number get to me if its not what I thought it would be.

3/9/13 2:02 P

The first thing I noticed is that you seem to have used two different scales. That makes the numbers less relevant. I weigh 2.5 lbs less fully clothed at the gym than I do at home completely nude. (There is a grocery store in Kansas where I weigh 40 lbs less than I do at home. God help me, I love that broken scale!) The difference could be a matter of calibration, elevation, how level the ground is where the scale sits, or any number of things that have nothing to do with your actual body mass.

Don't think of the scale as a scientific tool because you are very unlikely to get that level of accuracy from anything you can buy for your home. Instead, use it a guideline. It can help you tell whether your weight is trending up or down or staying the same. But even that will take repeated measurements over an extended period of time to be reliable. You could weigh yourself once an hour and get 24 different (meaningless) results. That's why its best to only weigh once a week or once a month. There are so many other indicators of health that there is really no reason to get hung up on the number on the scale.

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3/9/13 1:11 P

I used to weight myself daily/weekly but now I weigh myself monthly. The scale fluctuates too wildly for me to want to rely on it for an accurate weight. Instead, I measure myself weekly and make sure I'm either losing or maintaining. It's also neat to see where the fat slides off/goes on first and how long it takes before I see that number increase on the scale.

Due to stress and poor eating habits - too many carbs - my waist/stomach have increased by an inch. Yet when I weighed myself, the scale read the same number. So I caught my weight gain before the scale did and can make an adjustment more quickly.

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3/9/13 1:00 P

I would not worry too much about what the scale says. I have read numerous articles that claim weighing yourself obsessively (daily, or more often) can make women more prone to bad self esteem and eating disorders. So please, for your own sake, don't let the scale control you!

Secondly, many factors will determine your weight change from day to day. A pound is about 3,500 calories, and if you are losing that much in a day, that rate of loss is dangerous and not good for you. So, there really is not reason to weigh yourself daily. Things that determine weight fluctuations:

Time of day.
Last meal eaten (size of meal, too).
Last restroom visit (#1 and #2).
Scale that you are using. (The most accurate are doctor's scales, but most others will vary by a few pounds or ounces).
Water weight/retention.
For women - menstrual cycle/ovulation.
Level of hydration.
Time of last workout.
Sodium intake (relates to water retention, etc).

Also, keep in mind that muscle weighs more than fat. In the past month, I personally have only dropped 4lbs. (Average of 1 lb a week). But you know what? I also lost inches from almost every part of my body. The scale may not accurately reflect your fitness level, particularly if you are just starting or kicking up your strength training. As you build muscle mass, you will be more fit and your body will look better but, that may not be reflected on the scales.

If you want a more accurate indicator of how you are doing, measure your body's fat content, or just measure... yourself! And no matter what you do, don't get discouraged and take things one day at a time.

SUSAN727 Posts: 1,881
3/9/13 12:36 P

For myself, the scale is very important and I weigh each morning so I can make adjustments if needed.


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3/9/13 12:00 P

I find it helpful to weigh every day when I am trying to lose... and I have read that successful maintainers tend to weigh daily...

When I followed the below rules, the scale went down a bit every single day... It is a science. And the author/researcher (who has helped people with resistant weight for over 25 years) says it works like that for everyone. Not everyone needs these rules - but if the scale is wacky for you it is worth reading ...

The Five Rules of The Leptin Diet


VUKELK Posts: 623
3/9/13 11:57 A

It's something I'm not paying much attention to these days. I'm eating healthier and exercising more consistently and will let my clothes tell me how I'm doing. I do weigh in maybe every two weeks or so.

SIMONEKP Posts: 2,764
3/9/13 10:52 A

If you're eating in your range and working out, you can't get discouraged by the scale. It's not possible to gain 4lbs unless you were seriously overeating.

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3/9/13 9:15 A

I look at my scale almost everyday. I feel like I'm constantly stuck between two or three numbers, which is definitely discouraging. I like to check to see if I've made any progress though. Most of the time the number will change in the ounces and I count that as a loss or a gain. I know when I've had a bad day, so I usually skip the next couple of days before I use the scale again. One thing that has helped me is not to look at a gain as a fail but as a challenge, like "Oh ya body! I'll show you who's the boss!" lol Then I work harder and plan my meals more carefully. I try not to focus too much on the number though. I tell myself that it's really more about the lifestyle change than it is losing weight. So, as long as I feel good that's what matters.

CHESAPEAKE60 SparkPoints: (7,814)
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3/9/13 9:03 A

I found that - for me - all the intellectual info about THE NUMBER not being important. I still could not deal with daily changes. So I had to get rid of the scale, I would get weighed once a month at Curves and that would be it. Soooo much better for my mental outlook! Now that I am approaching and within 5 pounds of goal I did get a scale this past week to keep me on tract for the real work of maintenance.

MIZZKINS Posts: 120
3/9/13 8:30 A

I dwell on the scale sometimes, too. It doesn't always give us a result we think we deserve now. And most of us got heavy because of instant gratification. It makes sense we want it from the scale. So its part of relearning our way of thinking. Now, I never weigh myself unless I'm sure I can deal with any number. If I can't deal, I wait. Or sometimes I talk myself into being okay with any number because I feel great, so I make it not matter. Its the big picture that matters, the weeks of good eating and exercise.

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3/9/13 7:06 A

The scale is just a number - it's how you fell that counts. I only lost 4oz last week but told myself that's o.k. I will keep going forward, one step at a time. emoticon

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3/9/13 6:19 A

First off, it doesn't matter how little the loss, a loss, is a loss, is a loss :-)

Secondly, it really IS important to NOT focus on the scales. Weight goes up/down all the time. The only time I weigh is when I am at my Medical Centre. I always go before lunch; with the same clothes, and straight after having been to the loo! That can make a HUGE difference. Out of 'interest's sake' I have weighed on those scales immediately prior to and after going to the loo, and believe me when I say THAT can make a HUGE difference. I was extremely surprised at the result - LOL!

Anyway, there are a lot of factors - don't compare your weight from one set of scales to another; the amount of sodium you had in your diet a the previous day or two; the physical weight of the food that you had eaten for the last day or so which still hasn't passed through your system; the clothes that you wear (even similar clothes can way roughly 1/2lb difference.

There are loads of other things that we should be using as guides. Things like:
how your clothes fit
your energy levels
the quality of your sleep
the condition of your hair/skin
your BP
your cholesterol, HbAc, iron levels
the % fat reduction (done with 9 point caliper skin fold tests, not those 'fat-measuring scales'
and the list goes on!

Take care,

Edited by: SLIMMERKIWI at: 3/9/2013 (06:21)
3/9/13 3:49 A

Thank you for the resources, I, too, have been disappointed by the number this week, I was expecting to have lost at least 1 lb, and it was only 0.2.

STDWYNWEN SparkPoints: (11,748)
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3/9/13 3:31 A


Take a look at these great articles here at SparkPeople

"Take the Stress Out of Weighing In - Regain Your Power Over the Scale"

"Use Measurements Besides the Scale"

Edited by: STDWYNWEN at: 3/9/2013 (03:35)
ICANDOIT1220 SparkPoints: (30,924)
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3/9/13 12:12 A

How do you deal with the ups and downs of the number on the scale?

This past week I got on the scale (no clothing) and was so disappointed because it appeared that I had gained 4 pounds. I had felt like I had lost a few pounds over the week so I was surprised. I immediately began to "feel" like the number on the scale. Bigger.

Then today I was at the gym and figured that I'd just check my weight again (to compare it with the number from the other day). However, I had my workout clothes on, my shoes on, and I had eaten breakfast and drunk some fluids. I took that into consideration because I didn't want to be discouraged. Then, I was shocked. I was down 2 pounds, minus at least 1-2 lbs. more with my clothes and shoes. Basically nothing changed all week. Nothing changed, except my attitude toward myself!!! That is so sad. It was a normal fluctuation of weight (most likely) and an abnormal emotional drama inside myself.

No matter how many times I read about not dwelling too much on the scale, I have a hard time doing it!

Any ideas?

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