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TIMOTHYNOHE Posts: 4,317
10/3/11 10:59 P

Find another expert quick. This one is wrong.

10/3/11 10:09 P

As a trainer for 24 years, I'd have to say there is a lot more going on here. Yes, your RMR is low, but that is not unusual if you've been dieting. I just have to implore everyone to do more weight training than cardio, especially if your RMR is low. That being said, their may be some nutrient absorption issues going on that may need to be addressed by an ND preferably. Western med Dr's, for the most part, don't know enough about the body/nutrition/chronic diseases connection to save themselves let alone anyone else. emoticon

I will be more than happy to help anyone that wants it with a weight lifting program...anytime.

KERRYRHOTEN SparkPoints: (0)
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9/20/11 9:04 A

talk to your Doc

URSULA745 Posts: 60
9/19/11 8:24 P

Did you ask your doctor all these questions? If not, why not? I hope you didn't walk out of there without having definitive answers to all these questions.

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9/19/11 4:40 P

That is a little low

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9/19/11 4:13 P

I would suggest to opt for healthy eating not for starvation. you might follow less than 1000 calories plan for few days or weeks but making it lifestyle does not seem possible.

NAYPOOIE Posts: 11,900
9/19/11 12:06 P

Glad to hear you're going back to what worked. Good luck.

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9/19/11 10:25 A

I was told that about 1200 is the minimum norm before starvation mode kicks in.

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9/19/11 10:22 A

Way to go! I am so glad to hear that you are picking what will inevitably be a plan you will be more comfortable with and something that you will be able to stick with for the long haul. You sound a lot more in charge of things now, and I know that with your positive attitude and willingness to modify what needs modifying, you will be able to make this become a lifestyle and not a diet. Good luck and please let us know how things are going!

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9/19/11 10:09 A

Good Mornin' to ya 'all!!

After pondering on this over and over and over I might add I have lost two fist fulls of hair but, it shall grow back. (Anyone need some red curly hair??) okay bad joke.
I sat down with a very close friend and we talked this whole thing out. We discussed how back in 2007-2008 my friend grew mad at me and told me not eating meat or drinking/eating dairy could not be healthy for me. And at that time I was a size 28 and weighed in at 217lbs. So, I started eating meat and consuming dairy which I was always told I was lactose intollerant come to find out I wasn't my mom just didn't care for milk. I then started really working out and within a year I got down to a size 12 jeans. Yep a size 12...still have 'em.

I also got just below 200...I remember and so does my friend when I stepped on the scale and it read something like 180 we think. My stomach was flat and my stress was low and boy oh boy did I feel good.

I didn't follow a doctors orders I didn't nitpick at what I put in my mouth. I ate small meals and I cut out junk food.

So, after reading all of your worries and concerns I called today to cancel the doc appt. and I made myself a list of what I did back then and what I am doing now.

Just to let ya know I lost a total of 2's over this weekend So, I must be doing something right. And like one of ya said, "if it ain't broke don't fix it."

For many years they have tried to find something wrong with me to explain why I am big. I know my bones are on the bigger side and I know that I can be smaller maybe just maybe since I am now 34 yrs of age it is just going to be a slower process.

So, my plan is to workout 2-3 times a week, 2xs a week use the resistance bands, watch what I eat. I am going to stick with 1200 calories...I am comfie there...if I go down to a 1000 for a day that is okay too. I love my red meat once a week, lord knows I eat tons of veggies and fruit during the day and my goodness the water intake I do during the work day is unbelievable. I'm going to stay calm and stay stressfree at this time...I mean when I wasn't concerned with being fat but, just walked and chopped wood and stayed active it came off.

I will and can do it again.
Thank you to everyone for putting their imput in. I read them all and I will keep reading them to understand how ppl feel.
YES, he was a real doctor and a great doctor I looked him up and have known a few ppl who have used him in the past including my normal doctor. However this doctor believe in gettin vits and nutrients thru pills more than food. That is not for me at all. I truly do not like pills and he also feels that red meat is bad for me, poltury is the way to go....I couldnt' do that everyday.

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9/18/11 2:06 A

If you want to be malnourished, go for it. 1200 is the bare minimum for females. I don't count calories but I would say I eat around 1600 a day to get all my nutrients in.

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9/17/11 12:38 P

Very dangerous. You will lose weight - you will also lose muscle and potentially in your heart muscle. You will gain it back very quickly as soon as you begin eating normally again. The best thing to do is to eat 6 small meals a day which are rich in protein, carbohydrates and vegetables. Don't feel deprived! Whoever recommends this approach is flat wrong. You have to eat (and exercise) to lose weight.

9/17/11 11:48 A

I don't think I'd listen to a doctor who suggested I starve myself. You need a new doctor. That guy's dangerous.

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9/17/11 11:23 A

That's so unhealthy! Definitely get a second opinion. If it were me, I'd get this guy checked out. Something seems really off about that.

AURORA629 Posts: 2,393
9/16/11 8:56 P

Slightly mixed reaction to this one.

"You look healthy, blood work is wonderful, you work out pretty well, inches are falling but, yet you seem to have a weight problem."

This to me sounds like you are probably building some muscle. That would explain why weight isn't going down so fast, yet everything else is great. If this is the case, that is NOT a problem. Don't fix what isn't broken.

Yet, I also have to wonder what kind of specialist he was and there just might be a good reason for the diet. I am sure you didn't get sent to see a specialist because everything is perfect.

Anyway, best of luck to you and I hope you don't really have to follow such a strict low cal diet.

EDGARBEAR Posts: 1,583
9/16/11 2:42 P

I know we are all told to consume 1200 calories per day to lose weight, but that simply is not true for everyone. I went to a nutrition clinic where they tested my "resting metabolic rate" which is the calories your body expends while resting. If you did nothing else but lay in the bed all day, this is the number of calories your body uses to keep your heart beating, your lungs going, etc. I have hypothyroid and my RMR was extremely low-about 1100 calories. By consuming 1200 calories per day, I should have been gaining weight, which was exactly what was happening and the reason I went there to start with. Most people's RMR is much higher than that and that's why decreasing your calorie intake to 1200 will result in weight loss. I was put on a 1000 calorie/day plan, which I thought at the time was unrealistic and questionable. If they had not been doctors telling me this, I would have ignored it entirely. It's been over 6 months and I've now lost about 25 pounds. Sticking to the 1000 calories/day has not been nearly as difficult as I thought. I have to plan out my eating for the day to be sure I get something from each food group, but it is possible.

HMP1975 Posts: 214
9/16/11 2:39 P

I have nothing to add to the calorie restriction, but just wanted to acknowledge how beyond frustrating this must be for you!

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9/16/11 2:23 P

And I still say that these doctors are the ones who have managed to slow your metabolism even slower by sticking you on these incredibly low calorie diets and then told you..."oh, by the way, don't workout, or if you do, only cardio." I would still suggest a nutritionist (in our state you have to have schooling similar to that of dieticians and be board certified to be called a nutritionist) or a dietician who deals with athletes. The idea that a doctor would tell you to cut WAY WAY back on your intake and then do no exercise sounds pretty inexcusible.

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9/16/11 2:11 P

We have checked my thyroid, insulin levels, metabolic rate and anything else they could think of. I am as healthy as a horse except my weight. Everything shows I am right where I should be...but then I step on the scale and it says I am very much so over weight.

This is my third doctor. The first one cut me down on workout and placed me on a 1100 calorie intake. The second one placed me on a 750 calorie intake and told me not to do free weights but just walk and cardio. Now this doc said, I am sending you to a specialist who has done wonders. But more than likely my calorie intake will have to be very low.

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9/16/11 1:49 P

R u serious? I dont think thats a good idea.

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9/16/11 7:33 A

If I were you, I'd get my RMR tested. There's probably a hospital or spa near you that has a BodPod. It costs around $60 (maybe less or more, depending on your area), but I think it'd be worth it. At least you get a definite answer about how many calories you burn just doing nothing all day rather than some doctor randomly telling you to eat less.

NIRERIN Posts: 14,297
9/16/11 7:26 A

to me, your post says that you have some other medical condition that you have not mentioned in the post, but that your docs know about. and that's the key here. if there is some greater risk associated with staying at your current weight and that risk is greater than any risk you get while starving off the weight, then it makes sense to go so low. again, provided that you are being supervised by the specialist and that specialist is sending you to a registered dietitian so that you can get the most out of what you can eat and so you can be helped to transition back to normal levels once you are out of the danger zone so to speak.
and if you are having problems at so low a level, you should be in such contact with the doc that it's easy to mention. and maybe you might do a 600 day an 800 day a 700 day, a 900 day a 600 day and so on. again, if you have issues you'll be in contact and should bring them up.
which is another key. spark is based on averages for pretty healthy adults and doesn't really take into account the exceptions. really small women [like under 5'] and the elderly can do okay on less and so can people who are being medically supervised for other issues.
i do like the idea of asking for more info though. i mean, if the docs want you on a 600 cal diet until you weigh 100lbs, that's probably a red flag. if they want you on it til you drop below 200 [to get you out of the danger zone for whatever other issue you're having] that's probably a reasonable option. and do bring up things like how/when you're supposed to go back to eating larger amounts.
so do go back for more info. it may be something you need, it may not. but don't be afraid to ask for a second opinion if it seems off to you.

BAYSIDE07 Posts: 7,534
9/16/11 7:17 A

When I was in my 20's I sometimes crash dieted by cycling calories in a 800-1000-800-1000 per day pattern. Hard to maintain long term, but it definitely gets you beach-ready in a few weeks. Of course, all the weight comes back on when you stop this.

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9/16/11 3:49 A

You will loose a lot of muscle and before you know you could be weighing more than you did when you started with this very restricted diet. Don't go there!

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9/15/11 11:58 P

Whoever is advising you to cut your calories like that does NOT KNOW how the body works!!!!
Those are STARVATION calories, when so restricted....the body will CONSERVE.

What you REALLY need is to get a P.T. at the gym to teach you STRENGTH straining. Building muscle is the KEY to weight loss!!! BURNS more calories at rest, than just doing cardio!

JULIA1154 Posts: 1,783
9/15/11 11:46 P

I just don't see 600-700 cal. per day as sustainable. I know I've consumed that little for a couple of weeks at a time due to illness or health issues but I can't see functioning normally (much less working out, etc.) on that little. (I can do o.k. on 1000 but would find that daunting day in, day out.) If nothing else, I would see constant hunger as an issue.

I agree with those who suggest A) grilling the specialist, B) getting a second opinion and C) Measuring and tracking for a couple of weeks to provide empirical evidence to whomever you choose as your partner in health management.

9/15/11 10:31 P

A few years ago my doctor did the same-800 calories a day. I was so excited about my "new diet" and was faithful for only a few months. I lost a lot of weight in those few months, then I began to feel agitated, tired, snappy, lightheaded, confused, my energy level decreased so much that I forced myself to get chores done. I felt so hungry although I ate 5 small meals a day. I ended up stopping the plan and felt so much better when my calories increased. Problem was I overate and gained everything plus some back! Ask yourself before beginning your plan "can I do this the rest of my life?". If the answer is "no" then get a second opinion.

MONKEYJO3 Posts: 961
9/15/11 8:34 P

Please get a second opinion!

ANARIE Posts: 13,200
9/15/11 8:19 P

Talk to this doctor like you would talk to a surgeon who wants to do a risky, painful, odd-sounding operation on you. Ask:

What is his training? What certifications does he hold?
What are ALL the risks he can think of for this procedure? What is the rate of complications? (You want an exact percentage.)
How many patients has he used this procedure for?
What was their outcome at 6 months? 1 year? 6 years?
What peer-reviewed journal articles can he point you toward that support this procedure?
What other options do you have, and how do the statistics on their outcome compare to this one?
What kind of follow-up care will you need, and for how long? How will he help you maintain the weight you lose?

If he can't give you numbers and article citations, then he's just guessing. Make sure HE takes it as seriously as a doctor proposing surgery on your spine or brain. If he doesn't, find someone who does. You want a doctor to be able to say, "Well, 52% of my patients did regain all or most of their weight within 6 years. Still, that's a 48% success rate, compared to just 35% of gastric band patients, and yadda-yadda so on. There's a Doctor Anderson in South Carolina who had similar results that I read in the Journal of Clinical Yadda-Yadda. Would you like me to have the office manager pull you a copy? I'll also have him get you a copy of Dr. Peterson's article on a more standard 1200 calorie diet."

Doctors are supposed to know their stuff. Give yours a chance to show off (or not.)

LOVE4KITTIES Posts: 4,690
9/14/11 3:33 P

Six to seven hundred calories per day... This sounds like a recipe for failure to me. I don't think that anyone can sustain this long enough to lose any significant amount of weight because I think it would leave anyone feeling absolutely miserable. I also suspect that it's a good way to lose a lot of muscle. It sounds really extreme.

I'd recommend that you go to a registered dietitian (not a nutritionist...anyone without any training at all can call themselves a nutritionist...). I'd also recommend (if you're not already doing this) that you track every single piece of food that you eat (even if you overeat or eat something that might not be the best choice). I'd also strongly recommend a food scale and weighing all of your foods except maybe for milk (which I would measure in a measuring cup for liquids). Honestly, nothing ever worked for me until I started weighing my foods and tracking them in the tracker here on Spark People. It was too easy to fool myself and convince myself that I wasn't eating as many calories as I was actually eating. I spent 20 years of my life over 200 lbs and I never had any weight loss success until I started weighing and tracking.

Anyway, if you print out your food tracker and take the printouts to the registered dietitian, it will help him/her to make informed suggestions about your meal plan.

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9/14/11 2:43 P

Most Doctors get little to no training in nutrition I would disregard this "advice" and contact a Dietitian or Nutritionist ASAP

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9/14/11 1:42 P

I disagree with your doctor. Eating only 600-700 calories a day cannot possibly provide your body with the nutrition it needs to function properly. I think it would be better to follow SP recommendatins as far as calories, protein, fats and carbs, and increase your exercise a bit to burn more calories.

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9/14/11 1:23 P

This sounds like something my doctor said to me one time regarding weight gain and weight can get it to come back off, it just depends on how little you are willing to eat and how hard you are willing to work. I didn't listen to him either. First, in my humble opinion, suggesting that anyone go on lower than 1200 calories a day, is negligent and dangerous. Perhaps if the person has a health concern (as Dean said) severe caloric restriction may be in order, but by what you are saying, this doesn't sound like you. There are two numbers that should be considered when calculating caloric needs and also caloric deficit for fat loss. These two numbers are your resting metabolic rate and you total daily energy expenditure (RMR and TDEE for short). Your resting metabolic rate is the number of calories your body needs just to exist (lay in bed and breathe, not sleep). Your TDEE is what you need when you factor in movement and exercise. So, for example. If you weigh 150 pounds, the easiest calculation to figure RMR is 10 calories per pound of body weight. Hence, you need about 1500 calories just to exist, and that doesn't allow for exercise and other daily activity. It should be pretty evident why the thought of functioning regularly and then adding exercise on top of that would be difficult if not impossible for any length of time at that low of a caloric intake. Also, it isn't just the vitamin deficiency that I would worry about at that low of an intake, but I would also worry about the fact that your brain and nerves and muscles need certain things to function correctly (fats and carbs to be specific). If you aren't taking in enough of these macronutrients, the body will get what it needs from other sources (it will begin devouring it's own muscle to be able to manufacture the carbohydrates it needs to function). That's why FITCHALLENGER's results of muscle loss were happening.

Dean is spot on here, again, in my humble opinion. The biggest problem with that type of restriction, other than the possibility of muscle loss, is the weight gain that inevitably happens when you increase your intake at a later point. I think this is playing metabolic roulette, and you are the ultimate looser. I would suggest a second opinion, at the very least, by someone who is a specialist in nutrition/sports nutrition. Good luck.

NAYPOOIE Posts: 11,900
9/14/11 1:16 P

You work off 1200 calories and more just sitting there breathing. 700 calories a day is ridiculously extreme.

9/14/11 1:10 P

Dean's post is spot on.

A specialist implies medical supervision, and the he has a weight specialty (and I'm assuming this is a legit doctor not one of those quack weight loss centers) Doctors can be horribly untrained in nutrition and weight loss, but a specialist implies specific training.

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9/14/11 1:09 P

You really shouldn't go below 1200 calories or your body will go into starvation mode. Look for the Calorie Calculation page and determine what your calorie intake should be based on how much weight you want to lose and by when. SparkPeople won't give you a calorie range that is under 1200 cals (1500 for men).

LAETU5 Posts: 1,405
9/14/11 1:09 P

ditch that doctor asap and find a registered dietitian. If the inches are falling that means you are making progress doing what you are doing now; weight isn't everything.

NOREENBX Posts: 761
9/14/11 12:47 P

600-700 per day is insane. Get a second opinion asap!! I had a doctor put me on a 500 cal/day diet when I was about 19. I got very ill and eventually because bulimic just to make weigh-in goals. Stupid.

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9/14/11 12:04 P

Hi, J

A diet under 1200 calories (even in the 600-800 range) doesn't HAVE to be unhealthy or dangerous, IF it's done under medical supervision to make sure you're using all the necessary supplements to get what you're not getting from food, and involves frequent checks of your nutritional status through blood work, etc. There's more involved in supplementing a very low calorie diet than just vitamins and minerals, so you can't just assume that popping a good vitamin supplement will take care of everything. And I'd be very suspicious about using any of the more controversial weight loss plans involving things like hcg or other unproven products.

But there are some other issues that come up, like the difficulties involved in maintaining your weight loss after you go back to "normal" eating, and the fact that extreme calorie restriction almost always leads to excessive loss of muscle and other lean tissue as well as fat, and reduces the amount of energy you have for physical activity. I guess the question I'd have for my doctor would be why he thinks I need to go to extreme measures if there aren't any immediate health problems directly related to my weight? Usually, such a very low calorie diet approach is used for people who are morbidly obese and having significant health problems that require rapid weight loss as part of treating those problems. I don't want to contradict medical advice you're getting, because I'm neither qualified to do that, nor do I know the details of your situation. It may be that you have metabolic issues that make it hard for you to lose weight with a "normal" amount of calorie restriction, or with a normal diet. Sometimes these problems show up on lab tests--eg, hypothyroid, insulin sensitivity, cortisol levels. But for others, it may not be a matter of having a "disorder"--just a particular genetic susceptability to gain weight on a certain kind of diet. For example, many people who struggle with obesity seem to get poor results from the typical low fat/high-carb reduced calorie diet plan, but do better when reducing carbs and eating more healthy fats and protein. And then, of course, there's always the problem that almost all of us tend to seriously underestimate how much we're actually eating, and overestimate how many calories we're burning. I know that a lot of the mystery about why I have long periods where I just don't lose much weight tends to disappear when I spend a few weeks being very strict and accurate about measuring and counting my foods, and reduce the calories burned numbers I get from most exercise trackers by 25-30% (they can often be high by that amount).

If you and the doc have checked out all these other possibilities and still determined that a very low calorie approach is best, then it should be safe enough as long as you use the recommended supplements and stick to the plan for regular nutritional status checks.

Hope this helps.

Coach Dean

Edited by: SP_COACH_DEAN at: 9/14/2011 (12:13)
9/14/11 11:52 A

Definitely 2nd opinion here!

SCTK519 Posts: 2,086
9/14/11 11:36 A

I'd get a second opinion. Also, are you working out at all?

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9/14/11 11:35 A

Have you been given a nutritional plan based on that caloric goal? To tell you to hit a certain range of calories without a specific nutritional plan would be a red flag to me. Otherwise, if there is a rational basis based on blood work and you have a good nutritional plan to follow that gives you enough protein, carbs, and fat for normal cell function then this limited caloric diet may be okay in the short term. (If this is supposed to be your calorie limit for more than 3 months I would probably question that more seriously).
I am not sure if you are giving us all the information here. Unless your doctor recommended you to a shoddy specialist - which is possible but hopefully not likely if you have had this doctor for a while and can judge whether he/she is knowledgable, experienced, and has a good network of specialists for referal - then there has to be a sound reason for that specialist's suggestions. You have to remember that Sparkpeople's recommendations are based on general consensus of nutritional needs for healthy people. If you have additional health factors that your specialist is taking into consideration, then the recommendations tailored to your specific needs may differ from Sparkpeople's and that's not neccessarily a bad thing.

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9/14/11 11:26 A

I agree with checking into getting your insulin checked and your thyroid as well as you might want to take a saliva test if you haven't done so already. I do think this is dangerous because you can't possibly get the nutrition you need to function on such a low calorie diet. Like someone else suggested, I would ask for clarification (with data to back it up) but also get a second opinion

Hang in there, you'll figure this out!

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9/14/11 11:11 A

That doesn't sound right, not because a less than 1000 calorie plan is dangerous when done under supervision (I don't think it is), but because from what you write, it seems more like a guess than a data based decision from the doctor.

I went on an 800 calorie per day plan, just a few weeks ago (I'm a guy, so that's about half of what general knowledge recommends). While I am not sure it was a causal relation, during the weeks I reduced my calorie intake the most, I seemed to have lost muscle. At 1200 cals everything was OK and I was losing fat at a good rate, but at 800, muscle started to be used and yeah, I lost more weight, but my fat % seemed to increase.

Have you checked your insulin levels, your thyroid, or your metabolic rate? If not you might want to have a doctor check that. With those analysis you won't be guessing, you might find that either your metabolic rate is too low, or your insulin levels are too high and that's blocking fat usage. Any of those things are treatable, and you won't be guessing and risking your health and losing time.

Edited by: FITCHALLENGER at: 9/14/2011 (11:16)
DWROBERGE Posts: 367,302
9/14/11 11:01 A

impossible and unrealistically dangerous!

CHEETARA79 Posts: 3,943
9/14/11 11:00 A

That sounds dangerous and unhealthy. Ask them to clarify or just get a second opinion.

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9/14/11 10:25 A

That calorie number is unsafe and unrealistic. I would get a second opinion and also ask why would they recommend less than 600 calories when it isn't safe. I thought your body goes into starvation mode once you go below your BMR which would result in it holding on to fat storage.

ALGEBRAGIRL Posts: 1,925
9/14/11 10:20 A

That does seem kind of low. But then, I don't know your height, age, etc. I'd discuss the number and try to get something you think is reasonable for a calorie limit. What results do the Spark People tools give you when determining your calories?

It would be great to be able to get all your vitamins and minerals from food. When people go to a low calorie limit while dieting, it's difficult to manage ALL of that with limited amounts of food - mainly because no one determines exactly what you eat. They can't see that you have all nutritional bases covered, so taking a basic multivitamin is kind of an insurance policy for your health when you restrict calories.

9/14/11 10:18 A

I do not know if you have any health problems but you may want to get a second option here.

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9/14/11 10:07 A

Okay, so as a few of you know I have been trying to drop the extra me for many moons. Well, went back to my doctor again this week and I am to see a specialist and this so called specialist said, "You look healthy, blood work is wonderful, you work out pretty well, inches are falling but, yet you seem to have a weight problem." I wanted to say, "Well, yah!" But, I just knoded and let him finish with, "Your calories are to high at 1200 a day. We are cutting you down to 600 to 700 a day."

My mouth hit the floor. I eat 3 meals and 2 snacks a day and now he wanted me to eat lighter?!?


So, I guess I don't work off 1200 calories a day I only do 600. I am worried about headaches and dizzy spells from lack of nutrion. So, the doc ordered me to take a handful of vitamins. Again my mouth hit the floor.
Instead of taking the vitamins thru healthy food I am to pop pills???
Can someone please tell me how this is going to be healthy for me?
Pills vs. Healthy food, 600 calories a day, I mean I am worried.

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