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DROPCONE Posts: 1,592
2/7/14 8:44 A

I haven't known very many people to do weight loss surgery, but one person actually had to gain weight because otherwise it would be considered elective, and their insurance wouldn't cover as much of it. I think that's all kinds of messed up. The good news is that she follows her diet & exercise regimen very strictly and has kept the weight off ever since, and it's been years. So it really worked out well for her. I hope it works as well for your SIL!

FENWAYGIRL18 Posts: 5,868
2/6/14 11:00 P

Thanks for all the well wishes, she's doing fine... hubby spoke with her today and asked if she could only eat like a teaspoon of food and she said once she leaves the hospital she'll be able to have 3 meals a day plus a snack ... I never heard of them being able to go eat 3 meals a day, he said what like yogurt or something she said no real meals, she said she needs to have a protien shake.... I had a friend that had the surgery and she could eat very little or it would cause a blockage..... I don't get it... I just hope she's listening to everything they are telling her because she's not a good listener

LADYCJM SparkPoints: (57,456)
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2/6/14 10:22 P

Wishing her the best..and you too!

MLEHTO Posts: 734
2/6/14 6:46 P

Having had a different WLS (not gastric bypass) but surgery just the same, I know that not every doctor has the same pre-surgery requirements. Her doctor may not have required her to lose weight before surgery, I know mine didn't. He did ask me to follow a mostly liquid diet the week before surgery, not to lose weight, but to clean up my liver.

As far as I know, the only WLS that can be reversed is the band. The others, sleeve, bypass RNY, etc. cannot be as there are various digestive track parts removed.

Surgery is not a miracle cure, you still have to follow the eating and exercise plan. It is only a tool to be used to help you get healthy. Are there ways to get around the surgery? Absolutely! But for those who are serious about losing the weight, surgery is one of the tools that can be used to help.

OBIESMOM2 SparkPoints: (255,972)
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2/6/14 4:58 P

I absolutely believe that if you 'shop around' you can find a doc who will do whatever you want if you have the $

something new that I learned about this surgery - the reason you are not to drink carbonated beverages post-op is that they will quickly stretch the newly reduced stomach back out (thank you, My 600 lb Life). That explains a lot about the folks that I know who have not had long term success following WLS. Every single one of them still drinks soft drinks - a LOT.

sorry you are dealing with this, Fenway. It must be very frustrating to witness this in your own family.

I almost wonder if all the coverage regarding WLS makes some people less realistic about what the surgery can and cannot do, and the seriousness of the procedure.

BLUENOSE63 SparkPoints: (108,021)
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2/6/14 4:09 P

I wonder about this doctor as she doesn't seem to have a clue what gastric bypass involves in order for the procedure to work.

Edited by: BLUENOSE63 at: 2/6/2014 (16:10)
MJEFFERSON23 SparkPoints: (32,691)
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2/6/14 12:17 P

I think that there should be more pre-counseling on this procedure and individuals should be given all the information available, and a substantial waiting period! Best wishes to your SIL.

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2/6/14 12:16 P

I once worked with a woman who was trying to gain MORE weight to be eligible for the surgery. It's true that if one doctor won't do it for ethical reasons, there is another one who will for the $$$.

Good luck to her and try not to judge. Live your life.

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2/6/14 11:43 A

I think a lot of doctors just do whatever their patients say they want. And if one doctor won't comply, they can usually find another that will. I hate to bash doctors because of course there are some good ones. I don't know if things have changed in they way the counsel, etc. for this surgery since ten or so years ago, but I'm quite sure my SIL either didn't get much from counseling, or never had any. I don't think she lost any weight first and I don't think she learned much about changing her lifestyle and replacing the eating with healthy habits.

I won't go into the dire details about my SIL right now but I will say that recently she and my brother were inquiring about getting a reversal of the surgery. I was beyond shocked to think they went ahead with that major surgery and somehow missed the obvious thing: They removed a large part of her intestine. It CANNOT be reversed. I am not a medical professional but I read and try to be informed about these sort of things. My brother told me they recently "found out" it cannot be reversed. I am appalled that I know more about this surgery that my SIL who went through it, and her husband, who is my brother. Her weight was so high that I do know that could have killed her, so I'm not pretending to really have the answer for anybody out there. I'm more curious about lapband or reversible procedures and how effective they are, compared to gastric bypass.

MISSRUTH Posts: 4,319
2/6/14 10:22 A

Well.... who knows. Maybe the doctor felt whatever her medical issues were, outweighed the fact that she wasn't compliant with losing some weight before the surgery. Maybe your SIL will "get it" and begin following the dietary plan. Maybe she won't get a blockage or suffer complications or.... maybe not. The bottom line is, we can't live anyone else's life for them. As much as we can "see" things we think they should or shouldn't do.... they are going to do, whatever it is that they do. Not that much different than say, an alcoholic or drug addict. We can certainly not offer or encourage destructive behavior. But you can't live her life for her. The outcome is up to her. Hard as it is, sometimes, to watch.

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2/6/14 4:41 A

I hope that your SIL realizes that she still has to do the work if she is going to lose the weight, AND be healthy.

I wish her - and you - all the best.


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2/6/14 3:48 A

I wish your SIL all the luck and hope they really make the choice to follow the dietary plans laid out for them after the surgery. I know 5 different people who had the procedure done, some for the right reasons others for all the wrong reasons and those who did it for the wrong reason, some have chosen to get serious and follow the plan (although the cheat a lot they manage to maintain a fairly healthy weight and lifestyle) and others who just threw the opportunity out the window.
For the later group... Well it's hard to watch someone you care about do that sort of thing to themselves....Anyway, your post seemed very torn and full of contrasting emotions and I just wanted to reach out and say something along the lines of "I'm sorry" and " thanks for posting this/ sharing" and " is there any way I can better show my support".

FENWAYGIRL18 Posts: 5,868
2/5/14 10:56 P

Well my SIL went through with the surgery I have to say I'm actually shocked she did it, I should say I'M SHOCKED THE DOCTOR DID IT!
She lost no weight for this and I always thought you had to lose a certain amount of weight, so she's going into this with her old bad eating habits and I'm hoping she made the right decision for her.
I'd hate to see her get a blockage, she binged this weekend, things she knew she wouldn't enjoy anymore and I don't know is the medical field so hard up for money that they'll give anyone surgery?
My BIL was suppose to call us but instead he had my other SIL call, but I'm sure he called everyone in his family and scr#w hers...
Then the SIL that calls is so annoying ,she says oh she's okay can't keep a good person down... it's not about being a good person or not that is dangerous surgery, I mean I don't think any of them are taking this seriously.... I don't get it, I hope she has no complications, because I honestly don't think she knows what she got into especially if she couldn't lose a percentage of weight before ...

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