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ICEDEMETER Posts: 1,332
7/10/13 7:10 P

Thanks for bringing this up, and for the link to the notice.

Frankly, I am very glad that they're not (yet) forcing the change for existing users, as this would send me in search of a different site to track on entirely, or would cause me to never track fitness at all.

I'm sure that I'm not alone in having physical challenges that vary from day to day, making it impossible for me to pre-plan activity on a daily basis, while it's still possible based on a weekly or monthly average. This change takes away the ability to pre-plan menus to match a calorie range that is based on the longer-term average, which is one of the big advantages that I've found here.

I'll be waiting with trepidation for them to force this on to everyone...


SIMONEKP Posts: 2,764
7/10/13 6:50 P

Thanks for providing the link Heather. Yes, it works the same as MFP or Mentally, I don't like the idea of eating back my calories and I need a reserve for my rest day so I spread it over the week. I've been using MFP for tracking because it's more user friendly and has more accurate entries when I verify so changing over here was easy for me.

WADINGMOOSE Posts: 1,048
7/10/13 3:20 P

Eeek. I'm really glad they're not making us change. I really like the way it currently works. I feel like I'm eating to meet my fitness goals so I'd better actually get to the gym :) And it's easier for me to just be consistent during the week rather than trying to figure out each day whether to eat more or less and how much.

YOJULEZ SparkPoints: (15,981)
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7/10/13 3:13 P

Interesting feature, I never heard of it until reading this thread. I don't exercise so it has no benefit for me, but I could see how it would be really useful for a lot of people.

MEGAPEEJ Posts: 732
7/10/13 2:53 P

Thanks for the link!

I'm glad it's optional for existing users, and I hope they maintain that. I'll be interested to hear how others like it when it rolls out, but I definitely like my consistent ranges and weekly goals!

DRAGONCHILDE SparkPoints: (61,458)
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7/10/13 2:47 P

MEGAPEEJ Posts: 732
7/10/13 2:46 P

They're rolling out a new nutrition tracker?

It sounds like instead of having your range spread out your fitness calories over the week, that it gives you a base calorie range (that will be lower) and you "eat back" your fitness calories similar to MyFitnessPal? Can you confirm that that's how it seems to be working? (I haven't seen this new tracker yet, or the option to try it.)

I guess I'll wait to see it before I judge, but if it's how it sounds I'm not too excited - I don't like the idea/practice of "eating back" exercise calories and SP's approach of spreading them throughout the week seems healthier to me than MFP's "you burned 500 calories on the elliptical - you can eat 500 more calories today!" I know it's kind of a mental battle, but yeah...

SIMONEKP Posts: 2,764
7/10/13 2:31 P

This is not so much a question as it is a tip for helping people make sense of the new methodology as I think evitably, everyone will get moved over to the new platform eventually in similar fashion as with the fitness tracker change a few weeks back. This is more of a tip for the people who work out later in the day or who track at the end of the day but anyone can use it.

Use the workout calories the next day. Yes, you will always be a day ahead with tracking your fitness but over longer periods like a week or a month, it evens out. For example, let's say your new base range is 1200-1550 and you haven't worked out yet today. You eat 1550 calories for today and later you burn 500 calories- add those workout calories to tomorrow which will give you 1700-2050 calorie range for tomorrow. Let's assume you do this 6 days per week and for ease that except for the 1st day, you eat 1,800 calories each day. Over the course of a week your total calorie goal would equal 11,400- 13,850 [(1700x6)+ 1200] to [(2050x6)+1550]. Your actual comsumption would equal 12,350 calories [(1800x6) +1550], leaving you with a deficit of 1,500 calories from working out. That 1,500 calorie deficit is in addition to your calorie deficit required to lose weight even if you did not workout (the base range takes this into account already). If you don't get to workout one day it's still fine because you won't have extra calories the day after that and we really don't need to eat for refueling on the same day as we workout because the body stores enough glycogen in reserve to fuel a workout that burns up to approximately 2,000 calories. Everyone will hav to do their math but I thought this might help.

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