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10/2/14 10:43 A

Good morning! My mom told me about meratrim about a month ago. She saw an article in a health magazine with Dr. Oz promoting this "miracle weight loss pill". Of course, if Dr. Oz promotes it, I thought it must work! My mom and I started taking meratrim at the same time. I have been taking it almost a month now and have had no results. I have followed the recommended guidelines ( eating under 2000 calories a day, walking 30 minutes a day). I actually ate around 1300 calories per day....and kept it healthy. For me personally, it seems as though it's preventing me from losing weight. Typically I can lose at least a couple pounds a week if I stick to eating healthy and exercising. I have stayed at the exact same weight while taking meratrim while eating better and exercising. Basically, it has done the opposite for's literally stopped my weight loss. I quit taking it. It's supposed to block fat. In fact, it seems to be hanging on to the fat for me and has done nothing at all for me except prevent me from losing even a pound. My mom has also not seen any results.

If there is anyone out there taking it and having luck, way to go!! :)

What I have realized is the truth I already knew....there are no magic pills. The only way to achieve our goals are to eat healthy and exercise!! It does take time and dedication, but the benefits are so wonderful! For me it's about feeling good about myself and feeling healthy in general.

Best of luck to everyone!!!

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9/4/14 2:54 P

I have never tried Metatrim but I have tried others and they all gave less than pleasant results. From my experience, I have found that every weight loss pill on the market is going to include studies and testimonials that sound amazing. They're all going to toot miraculous results because that's part of the plan. Every supplement is going to do it's best to suck the customer in. I have to admit, these supplements do have great marketing teams.

Whether or not you want to try it is up to you. I think in the end it doesn't matter how anyone else does on the supplement because no one else has your body or your metabolism. It may not do a single thing for your best friend while giving you fantastic results or vice versa. I am trusting that you are an intelligent person capable of making informed decisions.

While SparkPeople can offer less than pleasant comments when asked about supplements, at the end of the day it's about you and what you are willing to do/try to be the person you want to be. If you want to take the Metatrim then that's your choice. It may work out well or it may be a learning experience. I hope whatever you do choose works in your favor. :)

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9/4/14 7:14 A

Meratrim is a good supplement, but the claims made by Dr Oz in his recent show seem to be exaggerated. I've taken this pill for a month but didn't get any positive result. I believe exercise and strict diet regime should be followed to lose some pounds.


Edited by: DAVIDGOMES at: 9/4/2014 (07:17)
METAMORPH2010 Posts: 141
9/2/14 6:37 P

Here's an interesting analysis of Meratrim. I'm no fan of Dr. Oz, but the randomized control trial looks promising. Seems that Meratrim could be helpful, at least in the short term.

I think for those of us struggling to lose weight, any boost to our efforts that we can get -- especially if there are scientific studies (well, in this case, one scientific study) suggesting it's not just snake oil -- is helpful. We just can't depend on it to magically get rid of our weight. It is a boost, not a total solution.


Oops, forgot the link:

Edited by: METAMORPH2010 at: 9/2/2014 (20:26)
LIFENPROGRESS SparkPoints: (115,161)
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9/2/14 3:55 P

Never and never will. The only magic pills are exercise and eating healthy. However, I wish you success.

"Be dedicated and eat right. It's normal to miss your old eating habits but you will love the new you! Stay on track. You can do it!"
~ Unknown ~

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9/2/14 3:04 P

I just read a article in Womens World magazine about it. Thinking about trying it. Wish their was something to turn off cravings/urge to overeat in all, my mind, mouth, and stomach!

RRAPTURE Posts: 41
9/2/14 2:22 P

I am on MERATRIM right now and I am into my 4th week this week. I haven't weighed myself yet but I have been following the diet to the tee. I will be weighing myself on the 6 week of this diet. Today I have 2 capsules left and I am going to buy more. I walk 30 to 45 minutes a day 6 days a week or if the weather is bad I just use my Tony Little for 30 to 45 minutes. MERATRIM hasn't given me any bad effects at all. I have been on a vegetarian diet also. I do see some inches lost in my clothes to. I do feel that it is working. I use to weigh the same thing every month but I will see if it works...but I think it is. I am also watching my calories. I do a raw protein vegan shake every morning with ALMOND MILK. A lunch and a dinner later. I take 2 capsules per day. 1 in the morning 30 minutes before a meal and 1 in the evening also 30 minutes before a meal.

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6/2/14 10:50 P


I just bought Meratrim. I plan to start it this week. You have to keep under 2000 calories per/day and exercise 30 minutes at least 5 days per/week. So it is definitely NOT a magic pill. I think that it is just a boost for those of us who need it. I will keep you posted.

METAMORPH2010 Posts: 141
4/8/14 5:16 A

One other thing about metabolism. I recently had Jonathon Bailor's work brought to my attention. He has interesting things to say about diet (more protein) and exercise (eccentric, infrequent exercise) supposedly based on mountains of scientific evidence. My personal trainer has me on his exercise program and so far I like it, but I'm still a bit skeptical of his advice in general -- I suspect he cherry picks his scientific data. (I tend to believe that you can prove anything using scientific studies if you pick the ones that support your stand and ignore the rest of them.)

METAMORPH2010 Posts: 141
4/8/14 5:10 A

Bet, I don't think you're being oversensitive. Some of the replies were a bit harsh.

Metabolism is a complex subject and there are no easy formulas. Those who say "just eat less and exercise more" are oversimplifying things.

Right now I'm experimenting with PGX. My sister-in-law had excellent results with it, and I'm hoping it can help stave off my insatiable hunger. If I try to stay without the calorie range SP gives me, a night-time binge is inevitable because I am just so hungry. Even if I'm very careful (and my food choices generally are very good), there is no way to stay within the range. I don't think it's a bad thing to try some of these supplements provided you also regulate your eating and exercise. That's a whole lot different from hoping for a "magic pill."

As for your situation, I'm wondering if you're trying to maintain too low a weight. I think you said you're 5'4" and 123 pounds. I'm the same height, and what I'm aiming for is 145 pounds. Actually, to be honest, right now I'm aiming for 175 pounds, which would be a considerable improvement over what I now weigh, but my ultimate goal isn't likely to be less than 145 pounds. I suspect I wouldn't be in the predicament I'm in now if I hadn't given up on my weight in my 30s, when I was in that range. I thought I had to weigh 125, and that was impossible. I was actually healthy and fit back then.

Anyway, I haven't even heard of Metatrim, so I can't help you with that. I do know that with PGX, it does cause some intestinal issues, at least at first, which is why I'm having a bit of trouble with it -- I'm still on too low a dose for good results, though the low doses I'm taking have helped me to lower my daily calorie intake by about 200 calories. (Still need to get down another 200 calories to be in range.)

Hope this helps. Good luck.

4/8/14 2:05 A

Hi Eliza,
I have never considered taking any type of supplement, etc. to help with weight loss. However, I did read an interesting article about the meratrim study and ended up buying it recently. I haven't started taking it yet (I wish there was more information out there!) but I appreciate your post. I would love to hear your longer term results and I, too, will share my experience. Best of luck to you!

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3/24/14 10:20 A

Yes thanks, I have! I joined the maintenance team, and read through all their awesome list of links here:

I am following the recommended SparkDiet program, increasing calorie intake by 100-150 for two weeks, seeing if I maintain, then going up again, but am still pretty low calorie wise. I couldn't lose any above 1200 calories, now I am up to 1500, but would LOVE to be at 1800-2000 a day!

EELPIE Posts: 2,700
3/23/14 7:55 P

Have you tried building up to maintenance by slowly increasing your amount?

There are people here who are doing maintenance for years now- renattaruns is one (I think her name). Ask how they did it successfully.

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3/23/14 7:50 P


ELIZADUCK SparkPoints: (3,046)
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3/23/14 7:50 P

I guess I am being sensitive. I have only asked for help and input once before on Spark, and was taken aback by the tone of SOME of the responses.

I too am familiar and concerned with the issues surrounding over the counter unregulated supplements. I'm also familiar with the fact that a lot of these things are adulterated, don't contain what the label claims, and that many don't work. That's why I was inquiring as to whether anyone had tried Meratrim and what they experienced.

I also think FDA approval has REAL limitations. It is driven by big pharma, and testing is often done on small numbers of people for short periods of time. And just about EVERYTHING - prescription on not - has side effects.

However, it's my understanding that Ayurvedic medicine has been around for a long time. (I know, I know, so have witch doctors.) I LIKE the idea of something that will improve metabolism, because mine is miserable! I weigh between 122 and 123 lbs. (at 5'4") and I don't need to lose weight, I just need to maintain and want to get my caloric intake up to 1600-2000. I eat ZERO junk food and exercise every day so it's not like I'm living an unhealthy lifestyle.

MANDIETERRIER1 Posts: 17,530
3/23/14 10:41 A

My concern with weight loss supplements is that they are not regulated by the FDA.

We were discussing another WLS and they were putting a dangerous substance in their pills and not putting it on the label.

So even if the items on the ingredients are GRAS, Generally recognized as safe. Is it that they are safe apart? Have they tested long term effects on these two herbs apart and together? Does the manufacturer put something in the supplements that is not on the label?

Those are my concerns. Although I have not taken this particular supplement. I will admit that I have taken WLS and I have had side effects even when the supplement is stated that it has no adverse side effects. I know it was the supplement because it started when I started taking it and stopped when I stopped taking it.

Just some food for thought. I hope my post doesn't make you feel ganged up on because that was definitely not my intention.

EELPIE Posts: 2,700
3/23/14 8:26 A

Sorry hunny. I am sorry.

My response was for people reading this and are desperate to lose weight - hey, you don't need pills that don't have results, and cost money.

The right way to do it is the cut calories and get a little exercise.

I ate more calories last week - but got a little (emphasis on little) exercise and lost a pound. I also made myself a little healthier. For anyone struggling to lose...that is how you do it...not from a bottle.

It does bother me when I see people get suckered into the diet pill frenzy.

That's why it's a billion dollar industry...not because they work, it's because people want to be able to lose weight without changing anything....the miracle that does not exist.

And no, spark people is not really about diet pill shams - it's about doing it the right way. The healthy way.

Some people here get angry when they see posts like this, because they know others are so desperate and will be quick to try any "miracle", that they will spend their money on pill A, pill B, pill C, pill D, pill E, pill F.....

Edited by: EELPIE at: 3/23/2014 (08:39)
ELIZADUCK SparkPoints: (3,046)
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3/23/14 8:24 A

Okay, I give up discussing this here. I feel I'm being shamed, criticized, mocked, and told I'm a fool by several people - not what I expected on SparkPeople.

EELPIE Posts: 2,700
3/22/14 8:52 A

I ate much more than I should have this week, by a lot...and managed to lose a pound!

For free!!!

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3/22/14 7:23 A

I have been trying Meratrim for about 2 weeks now. I have no idea how much of anything to attribute to the herbal supplement, but would say I feel hungrier, and have had a very mild stomachache (tightness) at night. However, that may be stress from my husband's cardiac surgery last week.

Over the past three months, I have been eating more as I gradually increase calories for maintenance mode. But this past week during the surgery, I went on emotional eating overload, and ate MUCH MUCH more than I normally would in response to the stress (still working on managing that!)

When we got back from the hospital, I was surprised to find that I had not gained any weight - I would normally put on at LEAST 3-5 pounds from eating that much.

Again, hard to say what if anything is attributable to the herbs, but I certainly don't think it's hurting, and it's possible it's helping.

I totally respect the healthy lifestyle approach and focus at SparkPeople, and the experience many have had with scams and quick fixes. I am committed to healthy eating and exercise, but I'm still interested in knowing if herbal supplements can support weight loss and maintenance.

By the way, there is a very interesting and informative University of California lecture online at
. It is called "Weight Loss Dietary Supplements: Truth or Consequences?"

TRAVELGO Posts: 3,639
3/16/14 1:41 P

I've tried a LOT of ways to lose weight. Finally realize there's no quick fix.... just fewer calories in and more calories out

SUMMER170 Posts: 42
3/16/14 1:37 P

I personally never heard of Meratrim, I have taken herbal weight loss pills in the past, and most recommended a diet program and exercise along with taking the pills. Most acted like a detox so I ended up using the bathroom a lot so I did lose "waste weight". After that, nothing. For me, being over 120+ lbs overweight at the time, I was willing to try any magic, promising, way to get the weight off.

Edited by: SUMMER170 at: 3/16/2014 (18:35)
EELPIE Posts: 2,700
3/16/14 1:24 P

Just because something is herbal does not mean it is good for you.

Dietary supplements, in general, are not FDA-approved. Under the law (Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994), dietary supplement firms do not need FDA approval prior to marketing their products. It is the company’s responsibility to make sure its products are safe and that any claims are true.

Just because you see a supplement product on a store shelf does NOT mean it is safe or effective. When safety issues are suspected, FDA must investigate and, when warranted, take steps to have the product removed from the market. However, it is much easier for a firm to get a product on the market than it is for FDA to take a product off the market.

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3/15/14 8:45 P

Again, maybe it's just me, but it would not bother me to take an herbal supplement based on Ayurvedic medicine with no adverse side effects if it would enable me to eat more while staying at a healthy weight. I am in maintenance, at 5'4", 123 lbs., eat very balanced meals and exercise regularly, but can only eat between 1200 and 1400 calories right now, which is very restrictive for the long term. I'm hoping to bump it up gradually, but in my experience, my body just can't handle much food.

I am NOT suggesting something like this is for everyone - people have to do what makes sense for them, and what they are comfortable with.

I was really just wondering if anyone had tried it and what happened. And yes, that would be anecdotal evidence (not like a clinical trial) but so is a lot of what's on SparkPeople - like all the secrets to success people share.

BTW I saw some more reviews on Amazon, and a number of reviewers said that after several weeks they have not seen any results or have even gained a bit of weight. The customer reviews sound much less promising than the trial results.

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3/15/14 8:40 P

Anarie, you need a subscription to review the article in Obesity, so I posted a link where a report of a similar study (involving some of the same authors) is available as a PDF. The citation for Obesity is as follows:

“Efficacy and tolerability of a novel herbal formulation for weight management” Obesity 2013 May; 21(5):921-7; Stern, J.S. et al.

Edited by: ELIZADUCK at: 3/15/2014 (22:30)
ANARIE Posts: 13,192
3/15/14 3:22 A

The links you have posted are NOT to Obesity. They're to the Journal of Medicinal Food, which appears to be a non-refereed online-only ACM journal whose editor-in-chief has an MBA rather than an MD.

RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
3/14/14 1:02 P

I always end up back at the idea that you have to take a pill, and if you don't, you don't lose weight. You did not learn to eat properly, you just took a pill. So how long will you " happily " pay $30 for the pills, and take them?

When you stop, you will gain weight back unless you change eating habits. So for success, you are suggesting that taking a pill for the rest of your life is a good thing. Even without side effects, the idea of taking a pill instead of just finding a way of eating that controls your hunger, horrifies me.

This is the problem with the one diet fits all philosophy. People are unable to consider other diets, because they are told the govt. only recommends one diet, so when that fails, instead of trying other diets to see if they work, they stay on the diet that is failing, and choose other options, like taking a pill to lose weight.

So, even if the results can be replicated in large studies, I would not recommend taking any pills to lose weight.

Does anyone know where they get the 2 items that cause this weight loss? Maybe you could buy it at the store, in the form of real food, and not have to pay $30?

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3/13/14 8:19 P

Thank you, great input, I do really appreciate it. I was ready to give up on Spark I was so surprised at the reaction to my request for input on something that looked promising and appealing - to me anyway. Thanks for the history on why.

I do think 3.3 lbs. versus 11.5 lbs. in 8 weeks is a REALLY significant and meaningful difference. Maybe it's just me, but I would HAPPILY pay $30 a month to be able to eat more and maintain/lose weight if there were no adverse side effects. (I eat very healthy, balanced meals all the time.)

I am very familiar with the lack of regulation of supplements, and expressed my skepticism of Dr. Oz in my blog. However, Obesity is a peer reviewed journal, and I thought the study seemed fairly well designed, but can see the concerns raised by the other posters. I also wonder if the subjects gained the weight back after they stopped taking the product.


Edited by: ELIZADUCK at: 3/13/2014 (20:25)
SAMMI-SAM SparkPoints: (26,311)
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3/13/14 2:27 P

burning more calories than u eat is a great way........

EELPIE Posts: 2,700
3/13/14 1:19 P

Another thing is the endless amount of people who post about these quick fixes, miracle cures for weight loss....then come back on and post how, yeah - it was a scam. All they were out is money. Time and time again.

ANARIE Posts: 13,192
3/13/14 1:09 P

It does look promising at the start, because they made it look promising. If you read the whole study, though, they manipulated the data a little. Some weeks there was a tiny statistical advantage to the herbal formula, so they reported those weeks separately from the weeks when the placebo group did the same. With such a small number of participants (and those participants were from two different studies lumped together), the results wouldn't be robust anyway, so you can't really tell whether there's any real difference. "Statistically significant" isn't the same as "meaningful," even when everything's on the level, but especially when they stretch to find statistical significance.

Basically, the study has enough promise that it should encourage someone else to try to replicate it with a large enough group to make it closer to meaningful. It's not "junk science," because other scientists would immediately understand that it's meant to be preliminary.

But it's not ready for prime time. If they didn't call this product an herbal supplement, they couldn't even start the approval process until they had better data, much less sell it. That's why they went on Dr. Oz instead of submitting it to multiple fully refereed, blind peer-review scientific journals.

Asking individuals to self-report results on their personal experiences isn't very useful, either. You'll get placebo or nocebo effects 99.99% of the time. People who take a supplement will automatically believe that the supplement is responsible for whatever happens to them, good or bad, regardless of anything else they do at the same time (and regardless of whether the supplement really contains the supposed active ingredient, which is always questionable.)

If you feel that people are being unfriendly, that's because there's a long history of people joining this site pretending NOT to be affiliated with a product and then immediately posting only about that product. Many supplement companies actually pay people to go to any site with weight loss discussions and post, "Has anyone here tried 'SuperThinPlus?' I don't sell it or anything, but I heard about it on Dr. Oz and Oprah and they say you can lose 20 pounds fast," so that if someone searches "SuperThinPlus," they get a result that shows all those words and the name of the site where they posted. It makes it look like SparkPeople or CalorieKing or whatever site is endorsing the product. I'm not saying that's the case here, but that's why people are looking at you with suspicion.

3/13/14 10:40 A

I am sorry that you feel ganged up on, that wasn't not my intent at all. There are a lot of people who post on the forums looking for a easy quick way of losing weight with some magical supplement or another. I will always encourage people to give the traditional way a try before trying a supplement (especially since I work in the food industry and know that there are basically no regulations on the supplement industry and what they can claim [as long as they have a disclaimer]). The journal article that you cited did have some promising looking data, I would have liked to see more of it. Best of luck in your journey.

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3/13/14 8:33 A

Well, posting this was a learning experience for me! I didn't expect to get slammed by "SparkFriends" when I asked an honest question.

I was simply looking for some feedback - whether anyone tried these herbs and what happened. The study sounded promising to me. I struggle with metabolic issues and thought it might help me and others who don't have much success with "traditional" approaches.

I'm not selling anything...or promoting anything. I was just curious.

I am disappointed and hurt by some of the comments and lack of an open mind. Sorry, I guess I came to the wrong place.

Edited by: ELIZADUCK at: 3/13/2014 (08:36)
3/11/14 12:51 P

I read the study and it is a good start. I would have liked to see a larger group and possibly some breakdown of results based on age. If you are switching to maintenance you will be eating more than 1200 calories anyway. Why not see how it goes with the supplement first?

Edited by: SOAPSANDROPES at: 3/11/2014 (12:51)
EELPIE Posts: 2,700
3/11/14 11:13 A

If you want to control hunger, beef up your intake of protein, good fats and fiber.

Save yourself $420 a year - I added shipping costs in.

If you really are insistent upon giving that $420 a year away....think about buying $420 worth of groceries and donating them to a food bank.

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3/11/14 10:46 A

You have to increase your food intake anyway, or you will continue to lose.

Honestly you sound like an ad.

This place is not particularly friendly to supplements and scam quick fixes, that's one of the reasons I usually like it here.

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3/11/14 10:06 A

Ah yes, I too am VERY skeptical about Dr. Oz as he is always touting various weight loss supplements/ approaches because that brings in viewers and he knows it's a huge problem. (He does emphasize that he does not endorse particular products (even though his show does highlight them.)

However, this one did look interesting.

I fixed the link on my blog (sorry about that - I was able to close the pop-up) - the actual publication is here:

In terms of cost, it's 30 bucks/mo. on Amazon. Less expensive formulations (purporting to be similar) are available with the same two herbs.

It sounds like it could be useful for people looking to just lose the last 10 lbs., or who want to kick start things. They think it works by blocking fat storage.

I was interested in this one because there is a lot of cumulative wisdom associated with traditional Ayurvedic approaches to health. I was not very successful with weight loss until I started taking Konjac (a Japanese root and source of fiber) to control insatiable hunger, so I'm open to trying things with no known adverse side effects. I'm curious as to whether this particular combo of herbs might help people who are struggling (like my mom.)

I am in maintenance mode (lost 60 lbs.) after 9 months of religiously eating 1200 calories a day of healthy foods and exercising 30-60 minutes a day, but would now like to up my calorie intake, as 1200 calories is too restrictive for the long term, and was wondering if this might help me during the transition.

EELPIE Posts: 2,700
3/11/14 9:50 A said the 2 key words that literally told me all I need to know about this "miracle" pill......

Dr. Oz

Edited by: EELPIE at: 3/11/2014 (09:51)
MISSRUTH Posts: 4,294
3/11/14 9:08 A

I've never tried it. Did a little web surfing-- at about 50 bucks for a 30 day supply.... never would consider trying it, either. Clicked through to your blog, then clicked through the link in your blog-- I was curious about the study. Ended up on Runners World with a pop up ad & no way to close it, so I could read the article. At that point, I gave up.

What are you after? Being able to eat more, and not gain weight? You can do that, by choosing wisely what types of food you eat. Are you planning to take this stuff for the rest of your life? Any plan where you rely on something like that.... is not teaching you to deal with whatever issues you have, with eating. When you stop taking whatever it is... what are you going to do then? You still end up needing to learn to deal with your eating issues... or face gaining the weight back. IDK but you can buy a bunch of fresh produce for 50 bucks a month instead.

I'm not a fan at all, of diet / weight loss supplements. Nor am I a fan of Dr. Oz. Next week, he'll be hawking some other supplement on his show. It's like the guy's become a joke and can't be taken seriously.

I truly do believe that the answer is diet and exercise, NOT supplements. We need to learn how to eat within our calorie range.

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3/11/14 7:54 A

I was wondering whether any Sparker's have tried Meratrim, and if so, what kind of results (if any) they are seeing, or if there have been any side effects

I blogged about it here:
and it was featured on Dr. Oz. It's an herbal supplement (two ingredients, no stimulants.) A study published in Obesity Journal indicated that people lost 3x as much weight with it, compared to a group taking a placebo.

I started it about a week ago. I'm in maintenance, but have been eating more and not gaining. No side effects so far....

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