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SF1985 Posts: 26
1/17/12 10:49 A

If you've had children, your pouch may actually be diastasis recti. If so, things like crunches, certain pilates moves, etc. can actually make things worse, as it's basically a separation of your abdominal muscles that happens to quite a few women during pregnancy and childbirth. There's a lot of good info out there online about it, and exercises which can help the situation, but it's also important to get a diagnosis from your doctor if you suspect you have this condition.

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1/16/12 8:34 P

I'd love to have a little pooch. Slap on a pair of Spanx and no one is wiser. Don't beat yourself up over it, just keeping working on losing it.

I have a huge foldover pouch hubby and I call my slump, like a terrible flesh apron. I had emergency surgery twice for ectopic pregnancies, which stressed my ab muscles. My L5 is deformed and can't hold my back in balance. Then I had colon cancer, which meant a full open surgery. Followed by a hernia, more surgery, more weakening of my abs. Now, seven years later, another hernia because once you mess with the abs via surgery, you are at risk for complications forever. I am alive, I am moving, I am working on my health. I'd never consider cosmetic surgery, I've had enough outside interference with my body. If I ever get my slump down to a pooch. I'll learn how to do cartwheels!

Edited by: ANTI_M at: 1/16/2012 (20:35)
GINGERVISTA Posts: 6,236
1/16/12 7:14 P

Am currently reading Dr. Alejandro Junger's book, Clean, which explains all the toxins in our bodies & how to do a very temporary cleanse diet (few weeks) to help remedy that. I have a feeling that it will take care of LOTS of symptoms, including stubborn flab, even when we're eating right & exercising. Got my book from local library.

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1/16/12 6:33 P

When my oldest was about four, I told her I had the pooch because she left her toys behind. I've made my peace with the toybox ;)

TKISNER Posts: 493
1/16/12 4:13 P

It's fat. Women need to be in low to mid teens body fat to be able to see abs. Awesome article with pictures at

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1/16/12 2:20 P

My daughter is 5'11 and weighs 135. She's athletic in the extreme, club volleyball, running, and p90x, yet SHE'S got that pooch you're talking about. I know it's just a place to collect female fat and unless she goes on a strict fat burning diet as well as her exercise, she'll never lose it. You just have to prioritize. Is it THAT important to you? If it is, then you need to find a diet that cuts YOUR fat. For me, its a high proteing/Atkins type diet. If its not important and you look great otherwise, just remember that men like a little meat on their women. 6 pack abs are awesome, but so hard to maintain.

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1/15/12 10:54 P

Even though fat loss is an overall change, toning your lower abs might still tighten things up.

When I do things that focus on the transverse abdominals, I feel like my lower abs are being worked. Try scissor kicks:

"This stomach exercise requires lying on the floor. Position your hands under your butt, keeping your back pressed against the floor. Slowly raise one leg to a height of about ten inches, then slowly lower it back to the floor. As your lower one leg, raise the other. Repeat this motion for an entire set. Maintaining control throughout is important, not allowing momentum to get the better of you. Your upper body should remain on the floor through the entire move."

Instead of putting my hands under my butt, I keep my arms flat on the floor and I place a rolled up towel beneath my tail bone, so my butt is lifted but it's not on the fleshy part. You should feel a strong connection, like your abs are anchored over that towel. I also keep both legs raised through the whole thing. The more controlled it is, the more work it is.

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1/15/12 9:55 P

Oh yes,,,,,,we do beat ourselves up for nothing.

10/23/11 11:58 A

Just want to say that we women make ourselves crazy crazy crazy over the craziest things. Let's get and stay healthy! Let's not make up things to beat ourselves up about.

MARLIMOO Posts: 732
6/8/11 2:43 P

Love your points ladies. See I am no fan of the surgery. I hate the belly- bugs me, but I deal for the same reason. End result= Mini me and Mini Hubby. - Son and daughter. Love bugs.

CRW747 Posts: 234
6/8/11 9:43 A

I'm a mom with a belly you could draw a map of the US on with my stretch marks. When at my goal weight (not there at the moment), but when I am, I still have it and it feels like skin - just skin. The price of being a mom is worth it.

6/8/11 9:40 A

I have been at my goal weight almost 2 years and I consider myself very fit. Guess what, I have the same thing! My husband calls it my "womanhood" ha ha It is what it is!

MARLIMOO Posts: 732
6/8/11 9:19 A

I have it and I hate it. I can not remember if I had it pre kids. I honestly forget. The thing is- I had two c- sections and I swear that this pooch is the result of those surgeries. I have a super flat tummy high part, but the pooch bottom. My son is now 5- NO changes, and I lost 19 lbs!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRR.. thinking only way to fix is surgery but do not want to do that. Will keep at it.

MJREIMERS Posts: 7,527
6/7/11 10:21 P

I had four kids in five years, with the first three in just over three years. I had the pooch. I found that when I lost all of my weight, 30 lbs, the pooch got smaller. My oldest is 16 and tells me that my stomach is flat, so I'll believe her.

One exercise that is really easy to do and you can do it literally anywhere is.....when driving and the light turns red, suck your stomach in and tighten your buns until the light turns green. It works! You'll feel it in your core and your buns will become firmer. (I'll admit, I've been concentrating on the stomach over the buns.)

Good luck and hang in there.

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6/7/11 9:51 P

As bad as I want them I have to agree with LADOLLHOUSE and SHAWON. Would anyone consider getting lipo surgery to get the abs of your dreams?

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6/7/11 9:42 P

i agree LADOLLHOUSE, flat abs are not for everyone. everyone has there own stubborn spot.

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6/7/11 6:15 P

I HATE the lower belly pouch. There were several times in my life that I did not have the "pooch." Give me about 60 more days and I can gaurantee you it will be greatly diminishd if not gone. One of my favorite (the hardest) to do is to lay flat on your back, heels aimed for the ceiling and to do a leg lift. Make sure to aim for heels touching ceiling and not the wall behind you.

6/7/11 11:46 A

I used to have a little stomach pouch too but have a flat stomach now! I would recommend abs abs and more abs! I was in the same boat, always seeing my upper and middle abs while my lower abs remained hidden. I started doing specific lower ab exercises every single night before bed. When I first started I did 30 lower ab raises but not I do 100+ per night from getting stronger! Change your diet around and work on strength training in your lower abs. Everyone has a different body type though, a flat stomach isn't always possible unfortunately!

SHANEY13 Posts: 35
6/7/11 11:07 A

Have any of you tried the Post Pregnancy Workout from Tracey Anderson (you can find it on Amazon and read all the reviews). She claims it will put the skin back tight after child birth. I have not have children but I do the workout b/c it is a KILLER ab work out and I am usually sore for a few days after I do it - even in the lower ab region where I almost never seem to be able to hit with regular ab routines. Good Luck!!! I know how frustrating that are can be!


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6/6/11 10:23 P

I`ve had 4 kids so it was a little from that but more from fibroids. I have been working on it and they are shrinking so is my belly. Have you had yourself checked for fibroids!

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6/6/11 9:53 P

If anyone ever figures out how to get rid of it, i want to be the first to know! Mine sticks out at least 4 inches from me....i'd prefer to never meet anyone from the side, you can see me from the back though.....

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6/6/11 8:52 P

I too suffer from the dreaded lower pooch, I actually named mine "Droopy" I can tell it's going away, but like some of you have said, I guessing it will be the last thing to go.
I say we all give our pouches, pooches, guts whatever an Eviction Notice!!!

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6/6/11 8:38 P

i agree aeroger. I store my weight in my hips and thighs and that is the last place a see results. I have to work hard, but when i do see results in those places oh happy day. I know i have really been working hard;-)

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5/20/11 6:09 P

Berry - I don't know if I agree with that theory at all. I don't have one sweet tooth - I have 32 sweet teeth, yet I don't have any belly fat whatsoever. It's definitely not sugar that causes belly fat -- it's genes!

We don't get to choose where we store the fat, and spot reducing unfortunately doesn't work.

I tend to store all of my weight in my derriere and thighs - so I feel ya SunFlower! I could've written your exact question, plugging 'inner thigh' into where you wrote 'stomach.' The only helpful information I've ever read is to burn all over to get rid of your problem areas. Unfortunately the problem area is usually the last place to see results, but it WILL happen!

I think the 'lower stomach' actually looks good! It's feminine and every Victoria's Secret models have it! But of course, we always want what we don't have, right?

If you stick with working out and eating healthy as you've been - you're definitely going to see some changes! Keep the motivation flowin'!

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5/20/11 4:50 P

I always have this and had it when I was a teenager who weighed 90 pounds. It is the area I dislike the most. My "lady doctor" told me that it is difficult or impossible for some women to be completely flat due to genetic fat storage, also having a uterus and the direction the uterus is tipped. I don't know, just repeating what I was told. Strangely as I've lost weight I feel like it is bigger and softer. So I started taking a measurement around my belly as well as the small of my waist (I always just measured there). So since January this area has in fact shrunk by a couple inches while my waist only shrunk by an inch and my hips not at all. So some of the fat does go away sometimes (you just can't choose). And it really helped me see how useful it is to take measurements as I really perceive it as being bigger and more prominent--but now I know it is not. You know, I actually think a little curve in the belly looks great on other women especially when they are fit and healthy. We are usually our own worst critics!

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5/20/11 3:53 P

If you want to check out someone else's take on it (there are also others), check out Jorge Cruise, "The Belly Fat Cure." His take is that it is SUGAR that causes fat to store in the belly.

Then other people say that strength training is the key to increasing metabolism to help burn the "extra". (NOT starvation because the body can't build muscle without food.)

For me, that is the LAST place that fat goes away. And now that I'm older & in a different stage of life (think--heading towards menopause), it may or may not go away?!? The body store hormones in that zone and females need it for health.

In fact, I read recently that if a woman has liposuction done on the belly fat, often the body will replace that "storage" location within a year!

And last but not least, check out the following for a somewhat fascinating rendition on FAT.

I wouldn't obsess over it if you are living & eating healthy and including fitness, flexibility, and strength into your lifestyle!

AMANDA660 Posts: 881
5/20/11 3:40 P

Gotta love being a woman! I have it too even when I'm below my ideal weight. Its not even something anyone notices but I sure do. I'm not at the stage of accepting it yet but I'm also not willing to reduce my weight anymore than 120 to see if I can achieve it.

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5/20/11 3:19 P

Im in the same boat- I gained 12 pounds in the past year and most of it turned into a chubby little belly...definitely did not think 12 pounds would show this prominently. I kind of like the new curves in my hips/butt/thighs, so I think I'm going to try to shape my belly w weight training and crunches instead of losing it

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4/19/11 1:26 P

Blame being a female. Your average woman does not have a flat stomach like a man. Most women do tend towards having a curvy stomach i.e. a little pooch.

Can you get rid of it ? In theory, if you eat right, watch your portions and get some regular exercise that includes some strength training, you will lose any excess weight off your entire body.

Can you spot reduce that area ? Nope. you can't spot reduce areas of your body you don't like. Weight loss is a total body experience. You can strengthen your abdominal muscles with good core exercises, but that won't get rid of the pooch.

Now, here's the thing, if you've been pregnant or had a lot of excess weight to lose, some of that pooch is probably excess skin. Will the excess skin pop back ? Yes and no. Some of the skin stretched out from excess weight can pop back, but not all of it. It depends on your age and genetics. the younger you are, the more likely some of the skin will pop back.

So, what to do ? If you really want a totally flat tummy, then you need to consider cosmetic surgery i.e. a tummy tuck. In some cases, that's the only way a woman can get a perfectly flat tummy.

I lost the weight. I've kept it off. I am fit. I am strong. I have a pooch. it doesn't bother me anymore because I'm happy with what my body can do now than what it could do when I was overweight.

LINDSEYINAZ Posts: 1,598
4/19/11 1:22 P

I have a stomach pouch also. I may just be seeing things, but I DO think mine is getting ever so slightly smaller. What I read over and over again is that your body takes fat off where it wants to when it wants to. It usually comes off in reverse order (aka it first comes off the last place you gained it). So keep at it, work those abs, and the pouch WILL go away!

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4/19/11 1:18 P

I lost all my weight and had my pouch removed with surgery.. BUT and a huge but make sure your finished having your family..
The skin will get stretched, and wrecked again if you have not had your kids.. Great operation but should be a last resort when at goal weight and there is no bettering with nutrition and strength training..

Edited by: REDSHOES2011 at: 4/19/2011 (13:19)
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4/19/11 1:15 P

I am making this post in both the fitness AND nutrition board because I want to hear all I can from both factors that affect this. Even when I am eating right and exercising, I find that little lower section of my stomach does not budge. It's that little soft flubbery pouch the sticks out! Even when I can see my upper abs, I have yet to see those lower ones... And this is a very specific area, its not like pounds of stomach fat (and though I still have weight to loss, I remember even when I was at my healthy weight I still had this pouch). Is it diet? Is it more exercise? So what are peoples suggestions? Anyone have the same problem? Did they find a cure? emoticon

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