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8/11/13 4:14 P

Sounds like your hunger days are similar to mine except that eating, even a lot, doesn't assuage my hunger. I'll be as hungry after I ate as before and even waiting 20 minutes doesn't make a difference.

I really need to eat by the numbers on those days or I'll end up with too many or too few calories. If I know it won't satisfy my hunger, sometimes I won't bother to eat at all; it doesn't change how I feel. Or I'll be anxiously trying to feed the hunger and eat way too much. And it still doesn't change how I feel.

Sometimes I wish we could just take a pill and never have to worry about eating at all. sigh

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8/11/13 2:09 P

I have hungry days, too. I think everyone does; usually they're balanced by other days when I find myself going from my way-too-small-for-the-whole-morning breakfast to lunch without noticing I never wanted my usual snack. Since I don't count calories, this particular "problem" is easy for me to deal with -- if I need to eat badly enough, I just eat, and don't worry about it too much. It's never hurt me; it seems that kind of hunger is something my body is asking for.

I have noticed that this type of hunger can almost never be stopped just by eating in the same way I usually do, even if I add a bit more. I have to do something significant to stop it. For example, one day recently I was ridiculously famished almost immediately after breakfast. It happened to be my day of the week for eating meat (don't ask), so I went out right then, purchased the chicken salad I'd planned to have for lunch, and ate it all. It wasn't even ten in the morning yet. Probably 700 calories before lunch, eek, right? Except the next time I looked up it was 3 pm, I hadn't had lunch, and I hadn't even missed it. I wound up having to work hard to make sure I didn't eat too little that day.

Other times when this has happened, I might wind up having my usual morning AND afternoon snacks both during the morning, and that has stopped it as well. Usually I will not then need a snack in the afternoon, though sometimes I still do and again, it hasn't hurt me.

I'd suggest focusing on preparation ahead of time, so that when you get caught by something like this in the future you always have some food around (something well balanced with protein and fat preferably; pure carbs won't cut it) that's a bit in excess of your usual needs (and not so tempting that you'd go for it if you don't need it), so you can try to get on top of the problem before it ruins your whole day.

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8/11/13 1:11 P

Lots of good advice here. I would just add that I personally get cravings if I don't eat well. I may have plenty of calories, but if they are empty calories, I will crave more food. Your body can feel like it's starving if you aren't providing nutrients or enough water, Tracking your food for a few days before your doctor's appointment, especially on a day when you are symptomatic, might provide a great deal of insight. You can print the report to take to the Dr for review. He/she might see something you don't.

Hang in there! Hopefully, answers will come shortly. emoticon

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8/10/13 9:32 P

Thanks for the suggestion about the blood sugar. My diabetes is in remission since I lost 70 pounds; my doctor was thrilled as you can imagine. So I don't really test my BS any more. I'll try to remember to test it on the next hunger day.

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8/10/13 9:28 P

When you are having those 'hunger day's do you keep a closer eye on your Blood Sugar Levels? If you don't regularly check them, perhaps you could do them regularly, 3-4 x a day for the month and see if there is any pattern. Your Dr or Diabetes Nurse may be able to help you there.


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8/10/13 9:24 P

I try to eat several smaller meals throughout the day and usually total within my range of 1200 - 1550 for the day. In fact I'm usually at the top of the range or a little over. Admittedly, the 200 calorie substitute breakfast was a little low but I didn't feel that it was THAT low. I usually try for 4 or 5 300 calorie meals over the course of the day.

The hunger days seem to be a total disconnect with what or whether I've eaten on those days. Fortunately, they don't happen that often.

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8/10/13 8:57 P

I just had a peek at your SparkPage and see that you have Diabetes. I suggest that you make an appointment with your Dr and ask for a referral to a Registered Dietitian who will be able to help you with your needs, specific to you so that you can do this safely.


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8/10/13 8:55 P

200 cal. breakfast and 300 cal lunch isn't pretty good in my books - it is too low, and probably why you are nauseated. How many calories do you normally consume in a day?

I know what the nausea is like. When I first tried dropping my calories - just 250-450 per day, I would get severely nauseated, and light-headed, and even get woken in the middle of the night with them, and physical pain from hunger. I had to go back up and gradually reduce down - to 1400 calories.


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8/10/13 8:39 P

I get these hunger days a couple of times a month. I think they are more related to sleep than stress, though the stress of yesterday didn't help. Even if I get in breakfast on those hunger days, I'm still starved all day. I'll still be hungry right after I eat and waiting 20 minutes doesn't make a difference. I'm just hungry all day long. And it is a physical hunger not a mental one hence the nausea.

I thought 200 calories was pretty good; a yogurt would only net me 100 calories. I was surprised to read that you didn't consider it a good breakfast. It should have gotten me thru to lunch which is only about 300 calories. I usually try to eat something every 3 hours or so on normal days. On hunger days I have to be careful or I'll just graze all day long and never be satisfied.

Any way, I appreciate the time everyone has taken to give me suggestions.

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8/10/13 5:00 P


It sounds like your hunger days may be triggered by stress. I'm a firm believer that stress is a neglected aspect of weight gain. If a person could reduce their stress, they'd automatically reduce their waistline.

If you didn't eat breakfast and had to eat your 200 calorie snack, it's not a wonder you were still hungry. I would have been absolutely ravenous ! 200 calories isn't enough to sustain an adult woman's busy day.

Here's the thing about breakfast, it doesn't have to be traditional breakfast foods. You could eat a chicken sandwich if you wanted. You could even eat salad. Many cultures eat a salad for breakfast. Plenty of Asian cultures start the day with a bowl of rice. You don't have to eat eggs or yogurt, how about a sandwich ? how about a burrito ?

I believe that breakfast is my most important meal of the day because it's the one that provides me the fuel I need to make it to lunch. You don't have to starve yourself to lose weight or be healthy. And yet, that's what many women do in a quest to lose weight.

The food you eat should nourish your body. Also, if you are under a lot of stress, it's important to eat right to the best of your ability because stress breaks a person's body down. So, we eat to keep our bodies healthy.

Definitely talk to your doctor to see if their may be a medical cause for your nausea. But, do try to eat a little something at breakfast if you can. I know some people can go without breakfast, but I'm not one of them.

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8/10/13 3:58 P

I always have much more of a struggle if I haven't had a good night's sleep. I suppose it's like trying to up your energy levels with food because you didn't get enough sleep - then there's the added frustration about the cleaning lady. If I'm annoyed I tend to want to eat.
I keep an emergency supply of Belvita breakfast biscuits - do you have them in US? A pack of 4 contains just over 200 cals and they're fortified with some vitamins and iron. They're not an ideal solution but, with a banana, they can keep me going till lunch time. (I take a pack when I go out walking as well as I went through a spate of running out of steam and needing to eat immediately)
On the other hand, the hard boiled egg idea sounds more sensible because of your diabetes.
Maybe if you're eating right all the other days, you can be kind to yourself on your super hungry days and allow yourself a bit extra.

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8/10/13 1:50 P

Thanks for the great breakfast ideas. I'm not very imaginative when it comes to food, only think of things like boiled eggs or yogurt, which I'm out of.

I'm seeing my doc next month. I'll try to remember to mention it to her.

SUNSHINE6442 Posts: 2,314
8/10/13 8:11 A

Nausea can be caused by blood sugar fluctuations and also dehydration. If you wait more than 3 hours to eat your blood glucose drops, and so do your energy levels.

Boil up a few eggs they last a week in the fridge...Have a hard boiled egg...Eggs Are Loaded with Nutrients & lots of vitamins

Easy and fast...1/2 cup Cottage Cheese and a handful of Matchstick carrots, flaxseeds around 75 calories, 1/2 Avocado, grab an apple, peach, pear or even String Cheese which is 80 calories

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8/10/13 12:56 A

I think that the main lesson here is that you need to learn that you CAN eat breakfast, even when you are pushed for time. What was happening between the time of your getting up and the cleaning lady arriving? Was there enough time to pop a piece of toast into the toasted and putting some cottage cheese, and tomato, or peanut butter on it? Was there enough time to grab a banana, or apple, as well? Was there enough time to grab a pot of yoghurt and a handful of nuts, along with a piece of fruit? Did you have enough time to eat it on the way to work?

There are always opportunities is we allow ourselves to think about it.

The yoghurt (good quality one with wholegrains and low fat) and a banana are my very quick go-to breakfasts - otherwise it is usually Rolled Oats zapped in a Microwave. Takes 5 minutes tops from getting the bowl out to my eating it and that includes weighing it, adding bran to it and adding a tiny bit of weighed brown sugar to it.

One of my recent go-to meals when I am not particularly hungry but need to eat, is plain or wholemeal couscous, with some chopped dates. I heat the dates with the milk, add it to the couscous and quickly zap it again to bring the heat up. The natural sugar in the dates is the sweetening. Sometimes I add a bit of banana and a sprinkle of ground cinnamon to the mix.

If you start your day well, then you are far less likely to suffer from these issues.

As far as the nausea is concerned, you may have eaten enough at that meal, but I wonder if you had under-eaten for the day, or recent days - especially if you got in some exercise?? This is often a cause too.

If the above isn't a factor, then perhaps you would be best to make an appointment with your Dr and have a physical.


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8/9/13 10:37 P

If you're nauseous if you eat or if you don't eat, there might be a medical problem. Talk to your doctor.

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8/9/13 10:24 P

Sometimes, like a couple of times a month, I'll have a hunger day. Maybe I didn't sleep well or maybe I didn't have time for breakfast but within an hour of getting up, I'll be hungry to the point of nausea. And nothing touches that hunger all day. I'll even be hungry to the point of nausea right after finishing a meal.

Take today, please take today. I didn't sleep well last night due to the heat. Then my cleaning lady didn't show so I was late to work and didn't have time to have breakfast. By 9 I was nauseous and starved. But I ate my afternoon snack for breakfast, 200 calories. Didn't matter, I was still starved. I was still starved after lunch and just now finishing dinner and I'm still starved to the point of nausea. I'm NOT hungry. I can't be; I had a big dinner, 3 veggies and 2 servings of meatloaf. But I'm still starved to the point of nausea.

Tomorrow, I'll probably be back to normal but in the mean time, it is really hard to be so hungry and not give into trying to make the hunger go away. Only knowing that it would make no difference kept me from heading to Burger King for a whopper. So I did stay within my range today but...

...I'm starved to the point of nausea!

Sorry for the whine but I'm feeling sorry for myself because...Everyone...I'm starved to the point of nausea.

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